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Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 21:39
by Grimm
Not sure maybe Gans
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 22:08
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
sg1985 wrote:Ok cheers, I'll have a look into him.
- Peter Jackson, George Dixon, ed. Joe Walcott, Gans.
Johnson was a Johnny come lately, but he wanted to be remembered as the One and the Only.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 22:13
by Robinson
Peter Jackson was Empire HW champion, where no colour line was drawn ruled
the ring under the Union Jack :P
So you could say he is a world champion in a sense, because the Empire
was at that time, the best aspects of the world :P
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 22:19
by Grimm
sg1985 wrote:Was Jack Johnson the first black champion of any division or were there champions in lower weight classes?
World champion right?
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 26 Oct 2009, 22:31
by Grimm
Dixon is listed as the first black champion in a few places.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 04:35
by Adamj1987
it was a lightweight guy i think, the ring had a peice on johnson abit ago im sure it showed the first guy
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:08
by granberry
The ignorance on display here is breathtaking.
Boxrec--the home of the clueless.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:12
by Adamj1987
granberry wrote:The ignorance on display here is breathtaking.
Boxrec--the home of the clueless.
please enlighten us
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:12
by Goodnight, Irene
granberry wrote:The ignorance on display here is breathtaking.
Boxrec--the home of the clueless.
Gotta love our boy.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:23
by Counter-puncher
I prefer gran's rants against the RELIGION OF ALI and all the SHILLS who are HEARTBROKEN when their HERO is EXPOSED as the FRAUD he is.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:27
by granberry
Adamj1987 wrote:granberry wrote:The ignorance on display here is breathtaking.
Boxrec--the home of the clueless.
please enlighten us
Impossible.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:27
by Goodnight, Irene
Counter-puncher wrote:I prefer gran's rants against the RELIGION OF ALI and all the SHILLS who are HEARTBROKEN when their HERO is EXPOSED as the FRAUD he is.
From his vintage collection.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:44
by raylawpc
George Dixon is generally regarded as the first world champion of African descent.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:47
by granberry
Grimm wrote:Not sure maybe Gans
You are definitely "not sure."
LOL
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:54
by Counter-puncher
GRANBERRY is a bitter old man that more people do not heed his GOSPEL
the true believers have FAITH beyond granberry's ken.
the RELIGION of Ali is too widespread for granberry's HEROIC RESISTANCE to beat it back
granberry is like KING CANUTE in front of the CRASHING WAVE that is the RELIGION OF ALI
the good book says, 'if i have this, that and the other, but i do not have love, well I'm buggered, basically'
granberry has NO LOVE and NO FAITH
he must plow his LONE FURROW, a solitary DISSENTER from the EVIL GOSPEL of Ali shills like Hauser and Sugar.
granberry went on the WEST COAST BOXING thread once
he was LAUGHED off, as though he was some kind of CRANK.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:01
by granberry
Counter-puncher wrote:GRANBERRY is a bitter old man that more people do not heed his GOSPEL
the true believers have FAITH beyond granberry's ken.
the RELIGION of Ali is too widespread for granberry's HEROIC RESISTANCE to beat it back
granberry is like KING CANUTE in front of the CRASHING WAVE that is the RELIGION OF ALI
the good book says, 'if i have this, that and the other, but i do not have love, well I'm buggered, basically'
granberry has NO LOVE and NO FAITH
he must plow his LONE FURROW, a solitary DISSENTER from the EVIL GOSPEL of Ali shills like Hauser and Sugar.
granberry went on the WEST COAST BOXING thread once
he was LAUGHED off, as though he was some kind of CRANK.
Another collins stooge posts what collins just sent him on private mail to post.
collins is a bitter sicko and his army of obedient boxrec stooges destroy boxrec.
Everyone here remembers when boxrec sicko collins ran to the moderators to complain when I posted a comic book cover that featured the faces of four greats of Mexican boxing--Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita, Joe Conde, and Baby Casanova.
collins wanted the posted deleted because he thought it had nothing to do with boxing.
WHY?
Because collins never heard of Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita, Joe Conde, and Baby Casanova.
collins didn't know who they were..
And his buddy 'moderators' actually deleted the post at his direction, because they didn't know who Kid Azteca, Juan Zurita, Joe Conde, and Baby Casanova were either.
LOL
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:09
by Counter-puncher
fish, meet hook
i particularly love the phrases 'bitter sicko' and 'stooge'
although whats most impressive is that you managed to say anything at all, what with the fish-hook protruding into your flapping mouth and your eyes rolling in their sockets in that fish-on-a-gaff way.
GRANBERRY is like a TRAINED DOLPHIN
he performs BANAL TRICKS at the snap of a finger
he is like a CHEAP VARIETY ACT from the so-called GOLDEN AGE OF VAUDEVILLE
granberry is the FUNNIEST THING since they started blacking guys up and sending them on stage to 'move those feets'
if a character like granberry did not exist it would be necessary to INVENT HIM
most fiction PAILS in the light of the HEROIC MADNESS of granberry
granberry's OBSESSIVE-COMPULSION is of EPIC levels
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:13
by granberry
Counter-puncher wrote:fish, meet hook
i particularly love the phrases 'bitter sicko' and 'stooge'
although whats most impressive is that you managed to say anything at all, what with the fish-hook protruding into your flapping mouth and your eyes rolling in their sockets in that fish-on-a-gaff way.
GRANBERRY is like a TRAINED DOLPHIN
he performs BANAL TRICKS at the snap of a finger
he is like a CHEAP VARIETY ACT from the so-called GOLDEN AGE OF VAUDEVILLE
granberry is the FUNNIEST THING since they started blacking guys up and sending them on stage to 'move those feets'
if a character like granberry did not exist it would be necessary to INVENT HIM
most fiction PAILS in the light of the HEROIC MADNESS of granberry
granberry's OBSESSIVE-COMPULSION is of EPIC levels
Keep posting what your mentor collins sends you in private mail, counter.
The warmed over collins ad hominem crap posted by collins' army of stooges destroys boxrec.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:29
by Grimm
granberry wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:fish, meet hook
i particularly love the phrases 'bitter sicko' and 'stooge'
although whats most impressive is that you managed to say anything at all, what with the fish-hook protruding into your flapping mouth and your eyes rolling in their sockets in that fish-on-a-gaff way.
GRANBERRY is like a TRAINED DOLPHIN
he performs BANAL TRICKS at the snap of a finger
he is like a CHEAP VARIETY ACT from the so-called GOLDEN AGE OF VAUDEVILLE
granberry is the FUNNIEST THING since they started blacking guys up and sending them on stage to 'move those feets'
if a character like granberry did not exist it would be necessary to INVENT HIM
most fiction PAILS in the light of the HEROIC MADNESS of granberry
granberry's OBSESSIVE-COMPULSION is of EPIC levels
Keep posting what your mentor collins sends you in private mail, counter.
The warmed over collins ad hominem crap posted by collins' army of stooges destroys boxrec.
You are one old sad irrelevant man.
Instead of answering the question you post pictures of Kid Azteca and talk about your dislike for Collins. You are the stooge that is destroying boxrec.
Why don't you just crawl back into your box and consume another phallus.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:44
by raylawpc
If anyone cares at this point, I repeat:
George Dixon is generally regarded as the first world champion of African descent.

Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:47
by granberry
Grimm wrote:granberry wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:fish, meet hook
i particularly love the phrases 'bitter sicko' and 'stooge'
although whats most impressive is that you managed to say anything at all, what with the fish-hook protruding into your flapping mouth and your eyes rolling in their sockets in that fish-on-a-gaff way.
GRANBERRY is like a TRAINED DOLPHIN
he performs BANAL TRICKS at the snap of a finger
he is like a CHEAP VARIETY ACT from the so-called GOLDEN AGE OF VAUDEVILLE
granberry is the FUNNIEST THING since they started blacking guys up and sending them on stage to 'move those feets'
if a character like granberry did not exist it would be necessary to INVENT HIM
most fiction PAILS in the light of the HEROIC MADNESS of granberry
granberry's OBSESSIVE-COMPULSION is of EPIC levels
Keep posting what your mentor collins sends you in private mail, counter.
The warmed over collins ad hominem crap posted by collins' army of stooges destroys boxrec.
You are one old sad irrelevant man.
Instead of answering the question you post pictures of Kid Azteca and talk about your dislike for Collins. You are the stooge that is destroying boxrec.
Why don't you just crawl back into your box and consume another phallus.
collins and his stooges like Grim are the face of boxrec.
Completely incompetent when it comes to boxing
and desperate to control what is posted.
The incompetence on display here when it comes to the subject of boxing is breathtaking.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:55
by raylawpc
From the IBHOF website:
George Dixon
George Dixon became the first black man to win a world boxing title when he captured the bantamweight crown in England and then successfully defended it in America. He later added the world featherweight title, which he held for a total of eight years. Considered to be one of the finest small boxers ever, Dixon was well-respected for both his grace and power. He became interested in fighting while assisting a photographer who took posed boxing pictures. Dixon entered the pro ring in his native Halifax, Nova Scotia in 1886 at the age of sixteen.
Under the guidance of manager Tom O'Rourke, Dixon fought Cal McCarthy at the Union Athletic Club in Boston in 1890 for the American version of the featherweight title. Wearing two-ounce gloves, Dixon and McCarthy battled for 70 rounds, only to have the exhausting fight called a draw. That same year Dixon traveled to England to face Nunc Wallace, the holder of the British version of the world bantamweight title. Dixon easily vanquished Wallace, scoring a knockout in the eighteenth round.
Dixon returned to America to lay further claim to the title by knocking out bantamweight challenger Johnny Murphy. Dixon also knocked out McCarthy in a rematch in 1891. By 1892, he had outgrown the bantamweight division and began competing solely as a featherweight. With a fourteenth-round knockout of Fred Johnson in Coney Island in 1892, Dixon asserted his claim to the featherweight title.
Dixon participated in the three-day Carnival of Champions at the Olympia Club in New Orleans, where most of boxing's top contenders met. Dixon was matched against the amateur champion Jack Skelly, who was white. Dixon controlled the action from the start, broke Skelly's nose, and knocked him out in the eighth. White fans at the match reacted with shock and disgust, and to keep peace, the Olympia Club decided not to conduct any more mixed-race matches. The racist reaction to this fight led to limited black access to other matches, including heavyweight championships.
A long string of title defenses was interrupted by only a few quickly-avenged defeats. Terry McGovern finally bested Dixon in 1900 to take the crown away. Dixon lost a non-title rematch with McGovern and never again contended for the title, though he continued to fight until 1906. Dixon died, penniless, three years after retiring.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 12:13
by Grimm
granberry wrote:
collins and his stooges like Grim are the face of boxrec.
Completely incompetent when it comes to boxing
and desperate to control what is posted.
The incompetence on display here when it comes to the subject of boxing is breathtaking.
Simpleton you know nothing of boxing do not try and make yourself believe that you do .
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 13:38
by granberry
sg1985 wrote:Was Jack Johnson the first black champion of any division or were there champions in lower weight classes?[/quote]
Grimm wrote:Not sure maybe Gans
Boxrec---HOME of the clueless.
collins and his stooges like Grim are the face of boxrec.
Completely incompetent when it comes to boxing [and proud of it]
and desperate to control what is posted.
The incompetence on display here when it comes to the subject of boxing is breathtaking.
Re: First Black Champion.
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 14:15
by Grimm
granberry wrote:sg1985 wrote:Was Jack Johnson the first black champion of any division or were there champions in lower weight classes?[/quote]
Grimm wrote:Not sure maybe Gans
Boxrec---HOME of the clueless.
collins and his stooges like Grim are the face of boxrec.
Completely incompetent when it comes to boxing [and proud of it]
and desperate to control what is posted.
The incompetence on display here when it comes to the subject of boxing is breathtaking.
Confused are you?
This wouldn't be the subject of boxing. This is more along the lines of the subject of boxers and yet still you were unable to answer the question. Do you respond to all questions you don't know the answer to by ranting about collins?