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Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:15
by FLINT ISLAND
Obviously every boxer gets hated on to some degree:

Ricky Hatton
Amir Khan
Audley Harrison
Enzo Maccarenelli
David Haye
Carl Froch
Naseem Hamed

Every fighter has got their own selection of haters

But looking on various websites and forums and with all these joke Calzaghe videos on youtube

Its clear that Calzaghe is the victim of "extreme" jealously

People can pick holes in every fighter and every record and career - and pick flaws and imperfections and say he ducked this guy or that guy, etc, etc

Calzaghe is no different - you can pick numerous holes in him and his career

He is boring
He slaps with his fists
He never fought a prime Roy Jones (so what ? - Jones would have won - big deal)
He held the WBO title and defended it against bums,
Etc
Etc
Etc


But the striking thing is - people seem so keen to point out all his shortcomings as a person a fighter and as a career

The reason is "extreme" jealously

The main reasons for this are because of the following.......................

1.) He is a young good looking guy - super fitness and in great health - looks more like a male model than a former boxer - sharp dresser - looks younger than his age of 37 years old.

2.) He can pull glamorous women - wether it be his sexy X wife Mandy, or his Model Girlfriend Jo Emma Larvin or the bird of Strictly Coming Danncing - or the young sexy blonde 21 year old BT worker he was nailing before, whatever

He can pull nice women - period.

3.) Got two nice sons - and now they are heathly and fit and can have a quality life and finical security provided from them by their Dad.

His sons are now "rich" kids - and have the genetic inheritance - of Champion Dad - Joe Calzaghe.

He achieved so much in a unorthdox way - with his stable - and his Dad / Fighter partnership will go down as one of the best ever.

4.) He was a class boxer / fighter - fast - heart of a champion - knock him down - he just gets back up swinging - went to Madison Square Garden stood in front of Roy Jones and shook his hips in the middle of the fight :lol: :lol: - what a legend !!

5.) He won all these titles and was a Champion for so long - and achieved so much.

6.) He went to America and fought twice - beating two legends - (even if one of them was past his best)

7.) He retired with 46-0 - never to be beaten - never to be "exposed" - that really is something people resent.

8. ) Still realtively young and healthy and fit - now retired - with a multi million pound fortune - he gets to enjoy the rest of his life still in front of him.

9.) Owns properties / got investments in promotions / and other things - now on TV shows, etc - potential to achieve so much more

I slagged off Calzaghe many times myself over certain things - should have fought Froch, etc

But I am really sick of all the obvious jeaoulsy that people always direct to Calzaghe

Haters just refusing to give credit to him

He is a winner - and few British fighters can compare to what he achieved

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:20
by gemmell
he deserves some critisism BUT not as much as he get's! very good fighter.top 5 british greats

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:24
by Adamj1987
most of the critisism he deserves is from him contradicting himself but that only makes up around 5% of what he gets and he doesnt deserve it

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:29
by doctorboxing
FLINT ISLAND wrote: Enzo Maccarenelli
Did you type that whole post just to type that name again???

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:33
by el_grande_mauro_mina
:lol:

Why is Enzo Maccarenelli on that list and not Alan Minter.

He is the only fighter I cannot stand.

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:38
by Counter-puncher
FLINT ISLAND wrote:
1.) He is a young good looking guy - super fitness and in great health - looks more like a male model than a former boxer - sharp dresser - looks younger than his age of 37 years old.

2.) He can pull glamorous women - wether it be his sexy X wife Mandy, or his Model Girlfriend Jo Emma Larvin or the bird of Strictly Coming Danncing - or the young sexy blonde 21 year old BT worker he was nailing before, whatever

He can pull nice women - period.
:lol: :lol:

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:42
by youngrell
Flint, there should be a third option of 'Calzaghe brought a bit of the criticism on himself but people always go over the top'

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:46
by FLINT ISLAND
youngrell wrote:Flint, there should be a third option of 'Calzaghe brought a bit of the criticism on himself but people always go over the top'
Well that should be opition 1

That most people are just obviously jealous

Because everyone deserves some form of critism

And Cazlaghe there are many issues to have a go at him about - like the WBO reign at Cardiff Ice Rink , etc

But for people just totally refusing to give any credit for what he achieved

Alot of people always slag him off by saying the thing he didnt do

But my argument - and the list of points I have made is

Regardless of what he didnt do

People are jealous of him for what he is (good looking ladies man) and what he did do (46-0 , world titles, money, etc)

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:48
by FLINT ISLAND
jealous people

Calzaghe was very successful

And now can bask in retirement - of ladies, money, and fine wine

And has a very imperssive C.V

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:48
by Coco
How has Enzo Macc been the victim of extreme jealousy?

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:50
by FLINT ISLAND
Coco wrote:How has Enzo Macc been the victim of extreme jealousy?
Not jealousy

But the victim of hate - critics, etc

Maybe some of that was deserved

After he talked himself up = after the Haye fight - well on ESB at least - there was plenty of abuse directed at him and he was labelled a Glass Jawed Journeyman.

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:52
by FLINT ISLAND
Coco wrote:How has Enzo Macc been the victim of extreme jealousy?
Coco

Did Enzo Macc ever knock you out ?

He once bragged he use to knock out Swansea Bouncers and Doormen to show off to mates :lol: :lol:

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:55
by Counter-puncher
FLINT ISLAND wrote:
He once bragged he use to knock out Swansea Bouncers and Doormen to show off to mates :lol: :lol:
and that, pretty much, shows exactly what a classy guy he is :roll:

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 10:58
by FLINT ISLAND
Counter-puncher wrote:
FLINT ISLAND wrote:
He once bragged he use to knock out Swansea Bouncers and Doormen to show off to mates :lol: :lol:
and that, pretty much, shows exactly what a classy guy he is :roll:
Agreed

There is no class in that - moronic if anything :TU:

Brashness of youth I think - teenage stuff

Coco would KO Enzo anyway :DD

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:01
by FLINT ISLAND
Calzaghe dresses in the finest silk shirts on TV shows

He is a good looking guy

He is young and fit

He is shagging that blonde dancer that most men would love to be in his position

37 years old - and retired - easy life

Multi million pound fortune

Achieved his goals - WBC / WBO /IBF / WBA Champion

Ring Light heavyweight Champion

46 fights = 46 wins

easy to see why people have the ugly green eyed monster towards the Welsh Warrior

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:18
by coghaugen11
He deserves criticism. He's dishonest and contradictory, as well as disrespectful. He pulled out of an awful lot of fights, wasting an awful lot of fans' hard-earned money. He fought once or twice a year for 10 years as 'world champion' which is disgraceful, how he did it I don't know but it was corrupt and wrong, very dark period for the sport.

OK, if they were big fights or against the best, that would be cool. But they were in front of 900 people at Newport Ice Rink, against Tucker Podwill's. Then he complains about 'lack of recognition'. For what?

Jeff Lacy I never rated, never saw anything remotely special about him. He barely got by a shot Sheika and seemed to arch with his punches in a musclebound manner. With Joe's tight punching, hand-speed, combinations and loose movement I didn't understand how Lacy could be such a favourite (or even in the fight for that matter), I tried to see it but I couldn't. Plus he froze on the night itself to boot, clearly tight in the shoulders.

He should be praised for his fitness and stamina that night and overcoming the fears of Lacy's physique etc, though.

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:20
by Counter-puncher
sorry flint there is something we aren't quite sure about

could you clear it up please?

so, is Joe a young goodlooking guy at all?

not sure exactly what you think on this burning topic, thanks :TU:

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:24
by jamesmcdonnell
coghaugen11 wrote:He deserves criticism. He's dishonest and contradictory, as well as disrespectful. He pulled out of an awful lot of fights, wasting an awful lot of fans' hard-earned money. He fought once or twice a year for 10 years as 'world champion' which is disgraceful, how he did it I don't know but it was corrupt and wrong, very dark period for the sport.

OK, if they were big fights or against the best, that would be cool. But they were in front of 900 people at Newport Ice Rink, against Tucker Podwill's. Then he complains about 'lack of recognition'. For what?

Jeff Lacy I never rated, never saw anything remotely special about him. He barely got by a shot Sheika and seemed to arch with his punches in a musclebound manner. With Joe's tight punching, hand-speed, combinations and loose movement I didn't understand how Lacy could be such a favourite (or even in the fight for that matter), I tried to see it but I couldn't. Plus he froze on the night itself to boot, clearly tight in the shoulders.

He should be praised for his fitness and stamina that night and overcoming the fears of Lacy's physique etc, though.
I lost a lot of respect for Calzaghe after he fought Jones Jr. Utter crass hypocrisy.

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:24
by FLINT ISLAND
Counter-puncher wrote:sorry flint there is something we aren't quite sure about

could you clear it up please?

so, is Joe a young goodlooking guy at all?

not sure exactly what you think on this burning topic, thanks :TU:
Joe is a super handsome dark Italian who seduces attractive women into bed more easily than James Bond :OhYes:

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:26
by FLINT ISLAND
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
coghaugen11 wrote:He deserves criticism. He's dishonest and contradictory, as well as disrespectful. He pulled out of an awful lot of fights, wasting an awful lot of fans' hard-earned money. He fought once or twice a year for 10 years as 'world champion' which is disgraceful, how he did it I don't know but it was corrupt and wrong, very dark period for the sport.

OK, if they were big fights or against the best, that would be cool. But they were in front of 900 people at Newport Ice Rink, against Tucker Podwill's. Then he complains about 'lack of recognition'. For what?

Jeff Lacy I never rated, never saw anything remotely special about him. He barely got by a shot Sheika and seemed to arch with his punches in a musclebound manner. With Joe's tight punching, hand-speed, combinations and loose movement I didn't understand how Lacy could be such a favourite (or even in the fight for that matter), I tried to see it but I couldn't. Plus he froze on the night itself to boot, clearly tight in the shoulders.

He should be praised for his fitness and stamina that night and overcoming the fears of Lacy's physique etc, though.
I lost a lot of respect for Calzaghe after he fought Jones Jr. Utter crass hypocrisy.
I agree to a degree

No doubt Joe is a bit of a c~~t in ways

He is a bitter sod himself

But most of stuff he gets bashed for is just jealously.

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:28
by banjo
"No doubt Joe is a bit of a c~~t in ways"

Aren't we all FLINT, aren't we all?

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:29
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Has Flint fallen out of love with Big Mac and in love with Calzaghe?

I think people see him as a bit of fraud, ie pretending to be the best ever when hes not sort of thing even though hes a top class boxer. This is partly some of his fans on certain forums going overboard. People also dont like protected fighters

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:34
by FLINT ISLAND
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Has Flint fallen out of love with Big Mac and in love with Calzaghe?

I think people see him as a bit of fraud, ie pretending to be the best ever when hes not sort of thing even though hes a top class boxer. This is partly some of his fans on certain forums going overboard. People also dont like protected fighters
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Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 11:37
by FLINT ISLAND
banjo wrote:"No doubt Joe is a bit of a c~~t in ways"

Aren't we all FLINT, aren't we all?
Exactly

Thats why I think Calzaghe is no different than lots of people

Like he took the Roy Jones fight as he saw a fight against a modern day legend - at Madison Square Garden as a nice way to finish his career

Instead of taking a tougher fight against a Pavlik or a Dawson or a Froch

He did it for his own selfish reasons - but then lots of people would in the same position

Re: Calzaghe the victim of extreme jealousy

Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 13:23
by Fatsam
The only real critisism i have ever had with joe is that he had such great talent and left it too late to show the world, not saying who's fault that is.