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did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 13:38
by Samuel Brooks
According to Warren's column on his website, iit says that Froch v Direll only did 15,000 buys on Primetime. Is this correct? Does anyone know any more?

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 13:59
by 15829
must be true ive never known frank to lie :KO:

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 14:38
by Maelstrom
If it did even that many, I would be extremely surprised. My estimate, as I have said before, would be around 3000.

It wasn't really picked up in the press, didn't feature a household name and was on a marginal channel.

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 14:45
by sweetscience
id be shocked if it were that many

if it was on the normal sky box office i would have bought it....but i couldnt be assed faffin about ringing and setting my phone line up etc

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 15:03
by Adamj1987
it wasnt many esspecially with the glitch that people saw it for free so i doubt that it would count them

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 15:07
by gobbles
Maelstrom wrote:If it did even that many, I would be extremely surprised. My estimate, as I have said before, would be around 3000.

It wasn't really picked up in the press, didn't feature a household name and was on a marginal channel.


... and at 3am

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 15:14
by whiskey
Didnt someone claim Khan only did 14,000 ?

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 15:27
by gemmell
Maelstrom wrote:If it did even that many, I would be extremely surprised. My estimate, as I have said before, would be around 3000.

It wasn't really picked up in the press, didn't feature a household name and was on a marginal channel.
3 thousand :lol: :lol: it would have done atleast 10 thousand in nottingham alone!! i heard it did 23 thousand. which is a success for primetime. warren is an idiot.he tried to claim khan vs kotelnik did 50k+ :lol: :lol: when in reality it did less then 30k :OhYes: and that is with it being advertised EVERYWHERE ON SKY

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 15:43
by DG.
diggler wrote:must be true ive never known frank to lie :KO:

:OhYes:

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 15:44
by whiskey
I thought primetime had some sort of connection with Queensbury or whatever its called that Warren has some sort of investment in does he not ?

So i cant see why there is a criticism.

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 15:44
by rhino222
plank sporran always mentions everyones viewing figures......apart from his own !!

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 16:52
by Andy
G0mez wrote:I thought primetime had some sort of connection with Queensbury or whatever its called that Warren has some sort of investment in does he not ?

So i cant see why there is a criticism.
Different company C, the one you are thinking of is spelled Queensberry.
:TU:

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 17:24
by leforge
Froch needs to get kessler fight on a proper channel!

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 17:46
by gemmell
leforge wrote:Froch needs to get kessler fight on a proper channel!
yeh surely if sky box office make an offer hennessey will go for it. it would do big numbers on box office i think

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 17:56
by TerribleTerry
There is a really interesting interview regarding the Primetime Froch 'experiment' with the M.D of Primetime over on the Boxrec news site. If you are interested in this subject, check it out:

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2009/only-1 ... imetime-tv

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 20:38
by watson748
TerribleTerry wrote:There is a really interesting interview regarding the Primetime Froch 'experiment' with the M.D of Primetime over on the Boxrec news site. If you are interested in this subject, check it out:

http://news.boxrec.com/news/2009/only-1 ... imetime-tv
sounds encouraging. :TU:

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 14:01
by Maelstrom
gemmell wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:If it did even that many, I would be extremely surprised. My estimate, as I have said before, would be around 3000.

It wasn't really picked up in the press, didn't feature a household name and was on a marginal channel.
3 thousand :lol: :lol: it would have done atleast 10 thousand in nottingham alone!! i heard it did 23 thousand. which is a success for primetime. warren is an idiot.he tried to claim khan vs kotelnik did 50k+ :lol: :lol: when in reality it did less then 30k :OhYes: and that is with it being advertised EVERYWHERE ON SKY
A truly unbisased opinion there from Froch's number one fan.

I stick to my estimate, but we will never know. I would like to point out, however, that if Nottingham was so mad for the fight, why didn't they sell 10,000+ tickets?

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 14:10
by 15829
I stick to my estimate, but we will never know. I would like to point out, however, that if Nottingham was so mad for the fight, why didn't they sell 10,000+ tickets?[/quote]


thats probably because the trent doesnt hold that many

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 15:36
by hitman_hatton1
Ant Evans wrote:Because the arena cannot hold that many.... :-?
tilt. :lol:

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 15:51
by gemmell
Maelstrom wrote:
gemmell wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:If it did even that many, I would be extremely surprised. My estimate, as I have said before, would be around 3000.

It wasn't really picked up in the press, didn't feature a household name and was on a marginal channel.
3 thousand :lol: :lol: it would have done atleast 10 thousand in nottingham alone!! i heard it did 23 thousand. which is a success for primetime. warren is an idiot.he tried to claim khan vs kotelnik did 50k+ :lol: :lol: when in reality it did less then 30k :OhYes: and that is with it being advertised EVERYWHERE ON SKY
A truly unbisased opinion there from Froch's number one fan.

I stick to my estimate, but we will never know. I would like to point out, however, that if Nottingham was so mad for the fight, why didn't they sell 10,000+ tickets?
what a knob sack trent fm arena holds 8 thousand. your estimate is based on what? if wazza says it did 15 thousand that means it did more :lol: :OhYes:

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 17:56
by Maelstrom
I am afraid you are all wrong here. If set out for max capacity It can hold 11,000. Do not believe everything you read.

And do you all believe that every ticket that went on sale got sold? Did any of you go to the fight?

Besides, if they could have sold more, they would have gone to a bigger venue. After all, they have been banging on about the footy ground for long enough.

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 18:10
by whiskey
Maelstrom wrote:I am afraid you are all wrong here. If set out for max capacity It can hold 11,000. Do not believe everything you read.

And do you all believe that every ticket that went on sale got sold? Did any of you go to the fight?

Besides, if they could have sold more, they would have gone to a bigger venue. After all, they have been banging on about the footy ground for long enough.
Im afraid your wrong.

The 11,000 mark is for concerts, not boxing, where a third of the floor is taken by the ring and associated TV coverage teams.

Somehow i dont think a freezing cold october night at 3am in a drafty football ground would have done very well.

Fact is, the full house at the arena was a good result given the fact that Dirrell only brought his immeadiate family with him. Everyone else was there for Froch, as the undercard was a bit of a filler.

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 18:18
by Maelstrom
G0mez wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:I am afraid you are all wrong here. If set out for max capacity It can hold 11,000. Do not believe everything you read.

And do you all believe that every ticket that went on sale got sold? Did any of you go to the fight?

Besides, if they could have sold more, they would have gone to a bigger venue. After all, they have been banging on about the footy ground for long enough.
Im afraid your wrong.

The 11,000 mark is for concerts, not boxing, where a third of the floor is taken by the ring and associated TV coverage teams.

Somehow i dont think a freezing cold october night at 3am in a drafty football ground would have done very well.

Fact is, the full house at the arena was a good result given the fact that Dirrell only brought his immeadiate family with him. Everyone else was there for Froch, as the undercard was a bit of a filler.
From what I understand, (another promoter has been to the Arena don't forget), that actually isn't so.... but either way I am NOT saying the attendance wasnt impressive. I think it was.

What I am saying is that Gemmels original statement that the fight would have done 10,000 PPV's buy just in Nottingham is wrong - (along with Ant and Hitman Hattons comments) - when you could still by tickets on the door on the night of the fight. There could have been more tickets sold.

Anyway Gomez, being close to the camp, you must know the number of buys?

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 05:03
by mickey1975
G0mez wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:I am afraid you are all wrong here. If set out for max capacity It can hold 11,000. Do not believe everything you read.

And do you all believe that every ticket that went on sale got sold? Did any of you go to the fight?

Besides, if they could have sold more, they would have gone to a bigger venue. After all, they have been banging on about the footy ground for long enough.
Im afraid your wrong.

The 11,000 mark is for concerts, not boxing, where a third of the floor is taken by the ring and associated TV coverage teams.

Somehow i dont think a freezing cold october night at 3am in a drafty football ground would have done very well.

Fact is, the full house at the arena was a good result given the fact that Dirrell only brought his immeadiate family with him. Everyone else was there for Froch, as the undercard was a bit of a filler.
A ring is an awful lot smaller than a stage.I have been to concerts and fights at various arenas and the fights have much more space.For instance,all the blocks behind the stage are unusable.That means,at somewhere like the M.E.N,there must be thousands of seats that cant be sold.Hatton-Tsyu did 20,000plus,i would be amazed if any gig has beat that.Surely Ant Evans can clear this up,he generally knows the facts on things like this.

Re: did froch v direll only do 15,000 on primetime?

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 05:41
by Maelstrom
mickey1975 wrote:
G0mez wrote:
Maelstrom wrote:I am afraid you are all wrong here. If set out for max capacity It can hold 11,000. Do not believe everything you read.

And do you all believe that every ticket that went on sale got sold? Did any of you go to the fight?

Besides, if they could have sold more, they would have gone to a bigger venue. After all, they have been banging on about the footy ground for long enough.
Im afraid your wrong.

The 11,000 mark is for concerts, not boxing, where a third of the floor is taken by the ring and associated TV coverage teams.

Somehow i dont think a freezing cold october night at 3am in a drafty football ground would have done very well.

Fact is, the full house at the arena was a good result given the fact that Dirrell only brought his immeadiate family with him. Everyone else was there for Froch, as the undercard was a bit of a filler.
A ring is an awful lot smaller than a stage.I have been to concerts and fights at various arenas and the fights have much more space.For instance,all the blocks behind the stage are unusable.That means,at somewhere like the M.E.N,there must be thousands of seats that cant be sold.Hatton-Tsyu did 20,000plus,i would be amazed if any gig has beat that.Surely Ant Evans can clear this up,he generally knows the facts on things like this.
I think that post is about spot on. As I understand it, a floor plan has been produced in the past by the Arena for boxing that holds more than their advertised 10,000 capacity. I am not saying it was used.