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Cleveland Williams vs Ingemar Johansson, primes

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 20:45
by yancey
Can Ingo deal with Big Cat?

Re: Cleveland Williams vs Ingemar Johansson, primes

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 23:01
by Goodnight, Irene
A straight right hand usually beats a left hook to its target.

Johansson KO4, with both men hitting the deck. Exciting fight --- not much skill, & even less defense on display, but it'd be fun while it lasted.

Re: Cleveland Williams vs Ingemar Johansson, primes

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 01:46
by dempseyfire
Not much skill? :-?

Re: Cleveland Williams vs Ingemar Johansson, primes

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 04:06
by Goodnight, Irene
dempseyfire wrote:Not much skill? :-?
Not really. Someone lands a big punch in the first two rounds, & from there, it becomes a battle of survival, bombs away, ala Foreman-Lyle...

Re: Cleveland Williams vs Ingemar Johansson, primes

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 06:24
by Flump
Ingo within 4 rounds for me, IMO the pre shooting incident Williams is overated, a lot of his reputation seems to come from landing a few good shots on Liston and his chin was not exactly sturdy.

Re: Cleveland Williams vs Ingemar Johansson, primes

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 12:43
by dempseyfire
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:Not much skill? :-?
Not really. Someone lands a big punch in the first two rounds, & from there, it becomes a battle of survival, bombs away, ala Foreman-Lyle...

Ok, i can see that, that makes more sense.

Re: Cleveland Williams vs Ingemar Johansson, primes

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 21:47
by Robinson
I wouldnt rule Williams out entirely, besides his Ali and Liston losses
he put in some good performances. Ingo has the power, but I could
see Big Cat getting the win.

As GI said it could play out like a Lyle-Foreman affair, though I am
not entirely sure that it will be Williams that stays down. WIlliams
seemed all to eager to try and KO Liston in both fights, which
seemed very risky against a man like Liston. But perhaps Williams saw
something in Liston that few others did, and went for the gamble.

I will slide on the side of Williams, but just. It is a real hard pick em
we have been presented with here. Lets sit back and watch it
play out with our minds eye :)