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This past Saturday Chauncy stepped it up another notch in winning the WBO Asia-Pacific Interim Title and defending his beloved New Zealand Heavyweight Title against Seiuate Mailata. Winning comfortably 120-108 on two judges cards and 119-108 on the other. Welliver controlled the action right from the outset and settled into outboxing Mailata for the first 6-8 rounds picking him off at will, also wanting to get rounds under his belt as well win Chauncy started to lift the pace of the fight and begun sitting down on his punches throughout the final 4 rounds wobbling Mailata numerous times and having Mailata out on his feet in the 11th only his excessive holding saving him bust costing him a point! Mailata was in survival mode for the 12th.

Welliver was just happy to avenge the DRAW they fought to in 2007, but more importantly got the rounds in against a tough live opponent. the weight is still comming down, and now feels like hes back in 100% having shaking off the loss to Solis.

Looking for ANY of the TOp aussie guys to step up. Haumono, Wilson (because of his won over Hoppa), Leapai any of the top dogs its time to go!

Didn't Dominic Vea knock Mailata out in August?

Yep, in two rounds.

Were looking at getting some genuine rounds under the belt against an opponent who can fight ebtter than his record suggests. A Fired up and motivated Mailata is a dangerous opponent. He can hit. When Chauncy started stepping it up, he began to start wobbling Mailata and had him holding excessivley!

Never the less its rounds in the bank!

Still we have silence from OZ...............No ones wanting to fight

Chauncy lacks alot of punching power compared to majority of the HW's. Would definitely like to see him fight a top aussie fighter, he is a man with alot of skills

Hes never claimed to be a puncher your right, but ey wouldnt you have thought the aussies would have picked him up for a big regional bout given his record and activity fighting in NZ?

Haumono VS Welliver would be a great fight OPBF Title!

If it makes money it makes sense... What are you asking for to fight?

Chauncy wants to get into the Aus market he has to accept he is no draw card here as no one outside this forum would know much about him.

If your serious about getting him decent fights then come over here and have one fight for next to nothing. Take the financial hit for the opportunity. Then start calling out the bigger boys.

Chauncy seems a nice guys but if he fought Houmono, Hoppa of Kirby he would need to accept that 90% of the gate would be there to watch his opponent.

I realise you could say the smae about chauncy being the draw card in NZ but its a mute point as no one is chasing.

N2 Shape wrote:Were looking at getting some genuine rounds under the belt against an opponent who can fight ebtter than his record suggests. A Fired up and motivated Mailata is a dangerous opponent. He can hit. When Chauncy started stepping it up, he began to start wobbling Mailata and had him holding excessivley!

Never the less its rounds in the bank!

Still we have silence from OZ...............No ones wanting to fight

Looking at Mailata's record he does not get fired up very often.

Hoppa vs Kirby......Kirby KO4

Solo vs Cronje..... Very interested

Wilson vs Whitehead..... Interested

Forsyth vs Ammann....what a cracker

This is on December 4 in Newcastle......I'm curious as to why no boxing commission has been listed.

I wonder if the Iron rhino can confirm if this is legit??

dan h wrote:Chauncy wants to get into the Aus market he has to accept he is no draw card here as no one outside this forum would know much about him.

If your serious about getting him decent fights then come over here and have one fight for next to nothing. Take the financial hit for the opportunity. Then start calling out the bigger boys.

Chauncy seems a nice guys but if he fought Houmono, Hoppa of Kirby he would need to accept that 90% of the gate would be there to watch his opponent.

I realise you could say the smae about chauncy being the draw card in NZ but its a mute point as no one is chasing.

Very,very well said........N2 and Chauncy, this man is on the money.....you should pay attention to the advice given. Surely Chauncy you can't be happy with the level of opponents you've been in with lately?

N2 Shape wrote:This past Saturday Chauncy stepped it up another notch in winning the WBO Asia-Pacific Interim Title and defending his beloved New Zealand Heavyweight Title against Seiuate Mailata. Winning comfortably 120-108 on two judges cards and 119-108 on the other. Welliver controlled the action right from the outset and settled into outboxing Mailata for the first 6-8 rounds picking him off at will, also wanting to get rounds under his belt as well win Chauncy started to lift the pace of the fight and begun sitting down on his punches throughout the final 4 rounds wobbling Mailata numerous times and having Mailata out on his feet in the 11th only his excessive holding saving him bust costing him a point! Mailata was in survival mode for the 12th.

Welliver was just happy to avenge the DRAW they fought to in 2007, but more importantly got the rounds in against a tough live opponent. the weight is still comming down, and now feels like hes back in 100% having shaking off the loss to Solis.

Looking for ANY of the TOp aussie guys to step up. Haumono, Wilson (because of his won over Hoppa), Leapai any of the top dogs its time to go!

Sounds like a good win for Chauncy. Hope he keeps up the good work, I'm sure Ron will have him doing some hard yards in the gym

Hounddawg wrote:Hoppa vs Kirby......Kirby KO4

Solo vs Cronje..... Very interested

Wilson vs Whitehead..... Interested

Forsyth vs Ammann....what a cracker

This is on December 4 in Newcastle......I'm curious as to why no boxing commission has been listed.

I wonder if the Iron rhino can confirm if this is legit??

Touted as a heavyweight explosion,this card could be the start of big things,i'm bias but I think aus boxing is in a great spot right now,with the likes of the contender ,danny green vs rjj then this card,and talipau vs soliman it's obvious boxing itself is fighting back,a great way to finish off a great year and don't we need it.This is a new promoter and maybe a lil rusty around the edges,I can confirm hoppa and I have sighned contracts and through the grapevine that solo and cronje have too.As far as I know its all go!!!

Appreciate the feedback

dan h point taken but lets not forget the times where Haumonos people turned down fights with Chauncy to bring down the likes of Couser and Tommy Connelly yes they could play on Cousers brother of Tyson BS (which is BS by the way) but Connelly? They paid two airfares from the US to bring him down plus a hefty purse would it not have made more sense and be cheaper to bring an American from NZ if it was an American they wanted ?? And dont tell me Connelly was a draw in OZ!

With Chauncys personality it wouldnt take long to get a following behind him over there, but he loves NZ as a country(dont blame him D ) and thats a big reason he bases himself there. The aussies are happy to bring over other kiwis to beat up on, but as soon as someone can fight alittle the phone goes quite!

Hey at the end of the day if the OZ heavys want to be tested by a American theres a 40-5 current New Zealand and WBO Asia-Pacific Champ sitting right in there backyard just a phone call away!

Its a bit hard for us to judge when we don't know the finacial details.

Congrats on the fight Mike, great bounce back fight for you I think you can beat Hoppa and hope you do!

Simple financial facts we would have taken the same purse and Connelly and Couser except having only needed to be flown in from NZ as opposed to the US, doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out which option would have been cheaper, and im prety sure most would agree that Welliver would be more of a name in OZ than Connelly.............even Couser!

Forsyth V Amman : what a great fight that will be. Yahoo!

N2 Shape wrote:Appreciate the feedback

dan h point taken but lets not forget the times where Haumonos people turned down fights with Chauncy to bring down the likes of Couser and Tommy Connelly yes they could play on Cousers brother of Tyson BS (which is BS by the way) but Connelly? They paid two airfares from the US to bring him down plus a hefty purse would it not have made more sense and be cheaper to bring an American from NZ if it was an American they wanted ?? And dont tell me Connelly was a draw in OZ!

With Chauncys personality it wouldnt take long to get a following behind him over there, but he loves NZ as a country(dont blame him D ) and thats a big reason he bases himself there. The aussies are happy to bring over other kiwis to beat up on, but as soon as someone can fight alittle the phone goes quite!

Hey at the end of the day if the OZ heavys want to be tested by a American theres a 40-5 current New Zealand and WBO Asia-Pacific Champ sitting right in there backyard just a phone call away!

Mate Courser is worth more than Chauncy as to the non-informed boxing public its a far more legitimate opponent.
Connolley is on par with Chauncy (with regard to creditibility of the opponent) to the uninformed viewer and he looks better because his come all the way from the big US of A. not NZ. I think you will find the conolly got his airfarea and accomodation plus a couple of spending dollars, and that's it.

As for chauncy, he is more than likely a better fighter than those guys. If he want's to go the US market again thats great. But the simple fact is that if he want's to fight the Top Aussie guys he will need to do his first fight for near free to build a rep. If he is confident in his ability this should not be a problem. If your not willing to do that stop calling people out because IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Chauncy - if you feel you can beat the best in OZ (and you want to) just contact a promoter here and say you will fight Kirby for a return airfare and $500. Then if you beat him (which you will need to do before being competitive with Solo) I am sure you will be able to ask for a better purse in the future.

Rogue wrote:Forsyth V Amman : what a great fight that will be. Yahoo!

i'm looking forward to this the most. I really think Adam is going to be a contender at CW. I glad to see him fighting.... I just hope Amman is too much for him at this stage in his pro career. Amman has a good pro resume. Can't wait for this

dan h, if only the aussie guys saw it the same way when the shoes on the other foot!

Firstly ID say Chauncy is above Connelly in terms of recognition given hes fought in New Zealand 15 times or thereabouts. And well ahead of him in general ability. Couser you can make an argument for given he makes his living pretending hes tysons brother. But a 26-20 record with 10+ straight loses most inside 2 rounds doesnt really sell it to the people in the know.

And you dont have to fly from the US to be a American my friend

And a fight for cheap would be on the cards

All Connelly proved was you can be an American heavy with 17 wins and not be a world beater. Kali and Solo both saw him off in short order.

N2 Shape The bottom line is your boxer is unknown in aus get yourself a fight in aus get know then if he wins look for the bigger bucks. I rember not that long ago a fighter form Toomooba QLD fought on a Mundine card for NOTHING just to get recognitionlook where he is now in the world stakes as he said it was just an investment. It take money to make money.

What Courser & Connelly have in common is they weren't a risk to a then undefeated Solomon Haumono who was a KO artist going by his record. You may disagree with me, but Solo is a average domestic HW with limited skills. Someone like Chauncy who is 26 years old boasting a record of 40-5-5, a wealth of pro fighting experiencing a man who has pushed cuban prospect (who i rate highly) Odlainer Solis to 9 rounds is a risk to the likes of Haumono and other Australian HW's and is very skillful for a man of his size/body shape (goes to show you cant judge a book by its cover).

In the promotional game (which i am familiar with) its not about Chauncy taking less money to make the fight happen, its about the damage that a possible loss to Solo would do to him and his team financially in the future. So just because he is a "No Name" in Australia doesn't mean that it is the reason why the fight isn't going to happen. Marketing Chauncy would be a simple task, he is the lovable "Fat Dorky White Guy" hes American Born NZ Champion he has been in the ring with a real world ranked HW, something that Solo, Leapai, De Mori, Hoppa (McCall dont count) & Kirby have not done.

So in Solo's case its too risky for him to take the fight because if he looses at 34 that's really it for him the money train will stop he will end up a bum like Big Bob fighting for what every he can get, just because one purse is a little bigger then the last one isn't worth him getting less then average purses and then having to start taking risky fights to make what he was making.

sorry for the essay

You pretty much summed it up soundkamp!

Dont recall ever asking for a ton of money either? Would have fought for the same money Couser and Connelly got! But then again read above.....................soundkamp post

Bring Clancy over to aus if he wins well the aussie boxing fans will adopt him, you seem to not want to come to australia. As stated in my last reply the doe will cosme if your will ingto see what happens. stop talking and bring him over you said to come to aus doesnt cost much. I think clancy may need a new promoter. Someone that will have some nuts. :geek2: