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in my local paper it had haye as super heavyweight world champ is that rubbish anyone no cheers

there is no super in pro's

leeharding wrote:in my local paper it had haye as super heavyweight world champ is that rubbish anyone no cheers

Lee for someone who bangs on about Gary this and Gary that for you not to know that shows your knowledge of the sport is limited to Gary Davies. Muppet.

teddy007 wrote:

leeharding wrote:in my local paper it had haye as super heavyweight world champ is that rubbish anyone no cheers

Lee for someone who bangs on about Gary this and Gary that for you not to know that shows your knowledge of the sport is limited to Gary Davies. Muppet.

ever been in a ring mate ive had more bouts than you so we will leave it there muppet and thanks sweet science much appreciated

leeharding wrote:

teddy007 wrote:

leeharding wrote:in my local paper it had haye as super heavyweight world champ is that rubbish anyone no cheers

Lee for someone who bangs on about Gary this and Gary that for you not to know that shows your knowledge of the sport is limited to Gary Davies. Muppet.

ever been in a ring mate ive had more bouts than you so we will leave it there muppet and thanks sweet science much appreciated

of course you have mate, you fight with Gary in your dreams every night. So you think you have had more bouts and know more about boixng than me but then you don't even no that there is NO super hw division in pro boxing, d!ickhead.

teddy007 wrote:

leeharding wrote:in my local paper it had haye as super heavyweight world champ is that rubbish anyone no cheers

Lee for someone who bangs on about Gary this and Gary that for you not to know that shows your knowledge of the sport is limited to Gary Davies. Muppet.

:P

Lee for someone who bangs on about Gary this and Gary that for you not to know that shows your knowledge of the sport is limited to Gary Davies. Muppet.[/quote]
ever been in a ring mate ive had more bouts than you so we will leave it there muppet and thanks sweet science much appreciated[/quote]


of course you have mate, you fight with Gary in your dreams every night. So you think you have had more bouts and know more about boixng than me but then you don't even no that there is NO super hw division in pro boxing, d!ickhead.[/quote]

i av had more fights than u grow up mate and get a hobbie u tosser end of now soft ass

lee sorry mateits pretty basic knowledge that super heavyweight is ams only.

even my 7 year old knows this.

take a rain check mate you need to chill.

Haye's a cruiserweight world champ pretending to be a heavyweight; who thinks he's super! DD

Capiche?

leeharding wrote:Lee for someone who bangs on about Gary this and Gary that for you not to know that shows your knowledge of the sport is limited to Gary Davies. Muppet.

ever been in a ring mate ive had more bouts than you so we will leave it there muppet and thanks sweet science much appreciated[/quote]


of course you have mate, you fight with Gary in your dreams every night. So you think you have had more bouts and know more about boixng than me but then you don't even no that there is NO super hw division in pro boxing, d!ickhead.[/quote]

i av had more fights than u grow up mate and get a hobbie u tosser end of now soft ass[/quote]


Lee u twat, how the hell do u no something like that? What i do no is you must be thick if you don't no that there is NO super hw division.

I think your local paper could be getting confused with the whole WBA bullcrap. They have 'Super' Champions and 'World Champions. 'Super' Champs being a boxer who holds another title[WBC, IBF, WBO] and then wins the WBA belt. World champ is just a boxer winning the WBA belt. Simple example in the Super Bantamweight division-Cabellero[IBF champ also] is the Super Champ and Poonsawat is the World Champ. Real money racket but without it Bernard Dunne would never have been a world champ.

Now back to Haye, Id say your local paper has a rubbish, carried away or under researched journo who thought Haye was the Super WBA Heavyweight Champ after his exploits at Cruiserweight. Thats my guess anyway.

Deno1986 wrote:I think your local paper could be getting confused with the whole WBA bullcrap. They have 'Super' Champions and 'World Champions. 'Super' Champs being a boxer who holds another title[WBC, IBF, WBO] and then wins the WBA belt. World champ is just a boxer winning the WBA belt. Simple example in the Super Bantamweight division-Cabellero[IBF champ also] is the Super Champ and Poonsawat is the World Champ. Real money racket but without it Bernard Dunne would never have been a world champ.

Now back to Haye, Id say your local paper has a rubbish, carried away or under researched journo who thought Haye was the Super WBA Heavyweight Champ after his exploits at Cruiserweight. Thats my guess anyway.

cheers for clearing that up

lee your knowledge is pi$$ poor :!:

hurlock wrote:lee your knowledge is pi$$ poor :!:

true feel bit of a tit now oh well

damn expecting you too take the bait fair play DD

wba do a super champion thing like the wbo,anything over 14st4 is considerd a heavyweight.ali used to be a lump at 15 & half stone now they are 18 plus so cruiser moved from 13-7 to 14-4.once over 14-4 your a heavy there was talks over introducing a super heavy in pro boxing not so long back

Technically, because of the proliferation of plastic belts, there ARE super heavyweight champions in the pros - I'm pretty sure Butterbean was IBU super-heavy champion back in his lumbering, dough-faced prime.

dookus wrote:Technically, because of the proliferation of plastic belts, there ARE super heavyweight champions in the pros - I'm pretty sure Butterbean was IBU super-heavy champion back in his lumbering, dough-faced prime.

Who could ever forget the special 4 round heavy champ belt they c reated for him.

Until, or unless he fights and beats Wlad he is neither.

I never saw Valuev as a legit champ. Chagaev was the true WBA champ and he lost his belt(which wasnt on the line) to Wlad after previously defeating Valuev. The WBA created another belt whilst Chagaev had a relatavely short injury break.

So Haye HAS to fight Wlad IMO to even have a true claim for the belt as the 2 belts were never unified.

Even if Haye is fully recognised, with the 5 belts on offer Haye holds 20% of the title. Wlad has 60% and Vitali 20%. However, I would say Wlad would have a fair claim for being 80% after he beat Chagaev.

I have spent all day teaching dingles to spell their names and count to 10 but this thread has restored by faith in humour, brilliant

dookus wrote:Technically, because of the proliferation of plastic belts, there ARE super heavyweight champions in the pros - I'm pretty sure Butterbean was IBU super-heavy champion back in his lumbering, dough-faced prime.

see so its not that stupid then lol there was a super heavyweight champ.

^^^They just making u feel better u fool!!!^^^

teddy007 wrote:^^^They just making u feel better u fool!!!^^^

lol i no

teddy007 wrote:^^^They just making u feel better u fool!!!^^^

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date Lb opponent Lb W-L-D last 6 location
2009-10-03 405 Harry Funmaker 260 17-17-0
US Cellular Arena , Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States L SD 4 4
~ referee: Jeff Nass | judge: Mike Fitzgerald 39-37 | judge: Dick Hannum 37-39 | judge: Bob Lynch 36-40 ~

2007-03-09 417½ Joe Siciliano 313½ 4-3-0
Palladium, Worcester, Massachusetts, United States W TKO 2 4
~ time: 1:10 | referee: John Zablocki ~

2006-12-16 380 Joaquin Garcia 219 4-2-0
Dow Event Center, Saginaw, Michigan, United States W KO 1 4
~ time: 0:48 | referee: Sean Curtin | judge: Eugene Acey | judge: Ron Cunningham | judge: Tim Drwenche ~

2006-09-23 385 Ed White 270 11-12-0
Belterra Casino & Resort, Belterra, Indiana, United States W TKO 1 4
~ time: 1:46 | referee: Bill Paige | judge: Blake Allen | judge: Gary Merritt | judge: Russ Withers ~
Bout stopped at the advice of doctor due to injury to White's left shoulder.

2006-03-24 375 Daniel White 205 10-0-0
Wings Stadium, Kalamazoo, Michigan, United States W UD 4 4
~ referee: Sean Curtin | judge: Joe Hiekkila | judge: Mike Fitzgerald ~
scores:40-38, 39-38 & 40 36

2005-11-18 385¾ Baden Oui 238 4-3-0
Sports Complex, Carrara, Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia L MD 4 4
~ referee: Derek Milham | judge: Cyril Cairns 37-39 | judge: Adrian Cairns 38-39 | judge: Chris Daley 38-38 ~

2005-10-15 384½ George Linberger 255½ 28-8-1
Chaparral Club, Akron, Ohio, United States L SD 4 4
~ judge: Harry Arroyo 39-37 | judge: Eugene Glenn 37-39 | judge: Jim Price 37-39 ~
NABC Super Heavyweight Title

2005-08-20 370 Kenny Craven 236 26-16-0
Capital Gym, Beijing, China L UD 4 4
~ referee: Frank Garza | judge: Gary Merritt 37-39 | judge: Pat Russell 37-39 | judge: Steve Smoger 37-39 ~

2005-08-09 370 Rick Zufall 232 6-5-0
Camp Pendleton, Oceanside, California, United States W KO 3 4
~ time: 2:39 | referee: Pat Russell ~

2005-05-14 385 Kenny Craven 234 25-15-0
Mississippi Coliseum, Jackson, Mississippi, United States L MD 4 4
~ referee: Fred Steinwinder III | judge: Richard Handy | judge: Gerald Adams | judge: Jamie Arrington 37-39 ~
Scores 40-36, 39-37, 38-38.

2005-02-12 375 Kenny Craven 236 25-14-0
Magnolia Center, Laurel, Mississippi, United States W TKO 3 4
~ time: 1:23 | referee: Randy Phillips | judge: Larry Ingle | judge: Jeff Horton | judge: Lewis Johnson ~

2004-11-20 375 Brian McIntyre 6-8-0
Mid America Center, Council Bluffs, Iowa, United States W UD 4 4
2004-09-24 391 Ritchie Goosehead 278½ 7-15-1
Convention Centre, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada W MD 4 4
~ referee: Bill Turner | judge: Robert Tapper 40-36 | judge: Dan Vandal 39-38 | judge: Dan Roche 38-38 ~

2004-07-22 365 Salvador Farnetti 311 3-5-3
HP Pavilion, San Jose, California, United States W TKO 1 4
~ time: 0:50 | referee: Marcos Rosales ~

2004-05-15 360 Marcelo Aravena 222 6-24-1
4 Bears Casino & Lodge, New Town, North Dakota, United States W SD 4 4
~ judge: Mark Fox | judge: Kenny Lyson | judge: Rick Saull ~

2004-05-08 360 Rodney Phillips 198 7-17-0
Coast Coliseum, Biloxi, Mississippi, United States W KO 2 4
~ time: 1:49 ~

2003-06-13 325 Troy Roberts 229 8-9-0
Chinook Winds Casino, Lincoln City, Oregon, United States W TKO 1 4
2003-03-28 350 Lewis Gilbert 220 8-11-0
Alario Center, Westwego, Louisiana, United States D PTS 4 4
~ 39-37 | 37-39 | 38-38 ~

2002-07-27 334 Larry Holmes 254 68-6-0
Scope Arena, Norfolk, Virginia, United States L UD 10 10
~ 92-97 | 91-98 | 93-96 ~
Butterbean was credited with a knockdown in round ten

2002-02-02 351 Craig Wolfley 258 debut
Grand Casino, Gulfport, Mississippi, United States W KO 4 4
2001-12-12 350 Kevin Tallon 215 9-8-0
Caesar's Casino, Elizabeth, Indiana, United States W UD 4 4
~ judge: Blake Allen | judge: Gary Merritt | judge: Paula Duffy ~

2001-08-19 373 Billy Zumbrun 223 5-3-1
West Wendover, Utah, United States L MD 4 4
~ referee: Chet Fullmer | judge: Larry Fullmer 38-38 | 37-39 | 36-40 ~

2001-06-16 363 Shane Woollas 9-16-2
Conference Centre, Wembley, London, United Kingdom W TKO 1 4x3
2001-04-19 350 Tyrone Muex 220 5-10-3
Grand Casino, Tunica, Mississippi, United States W TKO 2 8
~ time: 2:49 ~

2000-11-17 350 Abdul Muhaymin 259 20-18-0
Coast Coliseum, Biloxi, Mississippi, United States D PTS 4 4
~ 38-38 | 38-38 | 37-39 ~

2000-11-03 330 Harry Funmaker 258 14-14-0
Ho-Chunk Casino, Baraboo, Wisconsin, United States W UD 4 4
~ judge: Mike Fitzgerald ~

2000-09-15 341 Marcus Rhode 258 24-17-0
Pepsi Center, Denver, Colorado, United States W KO 3 4
~ time: 2:06 ~

2000-07-28 334 Dan Kosmicki 225 17-22-1
Selland Arena, Fresno, California, United States W TKO 2 4
~ time: 2:40 ~

2000-06-17 333 Kerry Biles 266 2-1-0
Staples Center, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 4
~ time: 2:52 | referee: Raul Caiz ~

2000-05-19 346 Bill Johnson 211 6-2-1
Playboy Mansion, Beverly Hills, California, United States W KO 2 4
~ time: 2:49 | referee: Marty Denkin ~

2000-05-05 341 Dan Kosmicki 232 17-21-1
Convention Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W TKO 4 4
~ time: 0:52 ~

2000-03-04 330 George Linberger 263 18-4-1
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 1 4
~ time: 0:19 | referee: Jay Nady | judge: C.J. Ross | judge: Dalby Shirley | judge: Doug Tucker ~
IBA Super Heavyweight Title

2000-02-17 347 Kevin Tallon 217 6-6-0
Coeur d'Alene Casino, Worley, Idaho, United States W UD 4 4
~ referee: Tom Katsilometes | judge: Mike Green 40-36 | judge: Ray Kerwick 40-36 | judge: Daniel Vasser 40-36 ~

1999-12-10 333 Tim Ray 230 13-13-2
Grand Casino, Tunica, Mississippi, United States W UD 4 4
~ 40-34 | 40-34 | 40-35 ~

1999-11-23 328 Allen Smith 211 20-15-3
Allstate Arena, Rosemont, Illinois, United States W TKO 2 4
~ time: 2:16 | referee: Genaro Rodriguez ~

1999-11-11 337 Melvin Lumzy 242 2-3-0
Grand Casino, Biloxi, Mississippi, United States W KO 3 4
~ time: 1:00 ~

1999-10-21 336 George Chamberlain 250 5-1-0
Hilton Hotel, Washington, District of Columbia, United States W KO 3 4
~ time: 1:25 ~

1999-09-18 320 Kenny Craven 210½ 12-5-0
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 2 4
~ time: 1:55 | referee: Jay Nady ~
IBA Super Heavyweight Title

1999-08-06 328 Jason Farley 258 5-2-1
State Fairgrounds, Columbus, Ohio, United States D PTS 4 4
~ referee: Bernie Profato | judge: Gary Merritt 38-38 | judge: Harold Lederman 38-38 | judge: Julie Lederman 38-38 ~

1999-07-31 319 Tim Burgoon 212 3-3-0
Plaza de Toros, Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico W KO 2 4
IBA Super Heavyweight Title

1999-06-26 311 Peter McNeeley 212 45-4-0
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 1 4
~ time: 2:59 | referee: Jay Nady ~

1999-06-11 323 Russell Chasteen 282 8-0-0
Texas Motor Speedway, Fort Worth, Texas, United States W UD 4 4
~ referee: Jerry McKenzie | judge: Ray Hawkins 39-37 | judge: Jack Woodruff 39-37 | judge: Jim Cole 39-37 ~

1999-05-27 325 Jason Hurley 257 3-2-1
Gold Strike Casino, Tunica, Mississippi, United States W TKO 2 4
~ time: 2:16 ~

1999-04-16 312 Roy Bedwell 218 14-49-1
Catfish Bend Casino, Burlington, Iowa, United States W UD 4 4
~ referee: Ron Stander | judge: Larry Mullens | judge: Don O'Neill | judge: George Hockensmith ~

1999-04-02 302 Kevin Tallon 209 5-3-0
Convention Center, Chattanooga, Tennessee, United States W TKO 3 4
~ time: 2:50 | referee: Laurence Cole ~

1999-02-13 316 Patrick Graham 231 5-3-1
Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 3 4
~ time: 0:46 | referee: Jay Nady | judge: Duane Ford | judge: Al Siciliano | judge: Paul Smith ~
IBA Super Heavyweight Title

1998-09-18 323 Troy Roberts 231 8-6-0
Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 3 4
1998-08-25 339 Tim Pollard 226 6-4-2
Blue Horizon, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States W KO 1 4
1998-03-23 312 Billy Eaton 209 12-2-2
Foxwoods Resort, Mashantucket, Connecticut, United States W KO 3 4
~ time: 2:38 | referee: Matt Mullaney | judge: Glenn Feldman | judge: William Hutt | judge: George Smith ~
~ Eaton knocked down once in round 2, twice in round 3 ~

1998-02-28 330 Warrant Williams
Cincinnati, Ohio, United States W KO 1 4
1998-01-16 326 Harry Funmaker 297¾ 9-9-0
Bank of America Center, Boise, Idaho, United States W UD 4 4
~ referee: Jerry Armstrong | 40-36 | 39-37 | 40-37 ~
IBA Super Heavyweight Title

1997-12-06 329 Doug Phillips 219 6-1-0
Caesar's Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W PTS 4 4
~ referee: Tony Orlando ~

1997-10-30 334 Ken Woods 1-9-0
Washington, District of Columbia, United States W TKO 4 4
1997-09-13 317 Billy Eaton 211 8-1-1
Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States D PTS 4 4
~ referee: Joe Cortez | 37-39 | judge: Duane Ford 38-38 | 38-38 ~
Eaton floored the 'Bean in the 1st round

1997-08-13 339 Enrique Ruiz 219 1-1-1
Mountaineer Race Track, Chester, West Virginia, United States W DQ 4 4
1997-07-09 339¼ Scott Lindecker 193 8-8-1
Emerald Queen Casino, Tacoma, Washington, United States W KO 4 4
~ time: 1:20 | judge: Glen Hamada | judge: Tom McDonough | judge: Barry Druxman ~

1997-06-15 331 Jason Farley 265 4-0-1
Grand Casino, Biloxi, Mississippi, United States W TKO 4 4
1997-04-17 320 Bill Duncan 340 13-9-1
Adam’s Mark Hotel, Tulsa, Oklahoma, United States W KO 2 4
Duncan is suspended indefinitely by the Oklahoma Boxing Commission for taking an apparent dive

1997-04-12 320 Ed White 255 4-1-0
Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 2 4
~ time: 1:14 | referee: Joe Cortez | judge: Richard Houck | judge: Art Lurie | judge: Paul Smith ~
IBA Super Heavyweight Title

1997-04-02 325 Sean Jegen 205 6-3-0
Station Casino, Kansas City, Missouri, United States W TKO 3 4
~ time: 1:33 | judge: Bill Evans | judge: Mike Putnam | judge: L.P. Lane ~

1997-03-22 333¼ Ken Woods 210 1-7-0
Memorial Coliseum, Corpus Christi, Texas, United States W KO 2 4
~ time: 1:29 ~

1997-02-12 320 Nick Phillips 235 2-1-1
MSG Theater, New York, New York, United States W UD 4 4
~ judge: Robert Gilson | judge: Eva Shain | judge: Steve Weisfeld ~

1997-01-18 322 Curt Allan 223 5-0-1
Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 3 4
~ time: 2:56 | referee: Jay Nady ~

1996-12-06 322 Sean Jegen 201 6-2-0
Lawlor Events Centre, Stateline, Nevada, United States W KO 1 4
1996-07-10 316 William Harris 238 3-3-0
Beverly Hilton, Beverly Hills, California, United States W TKO 4 4
1996-06-07 303 George Clarke 238 4-1-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 1 4
~ referee: Toby Gibson ~

1996-05-14 313 Jonathan Whitfield 195 1-6-0
Foxwoods Resort, Mashantucket, Connecticut, United States W TKO 4 4
1996-04-30 322 Richard Davis 227 2-2-0
San Antonio, Texas, United States W KO 1 4
~ time: 1:10 | judge: Gale E. Van Hoy | judge: Roy Ovalle | judge: Steve Jaramillo ~

1996-04-22 313 Jack Ramsey 280 0-6-0
Prairie Meadows Casino, Altoona, Iowa, United States W TKO 1 4
~ time: 1:28 ~
Ramsey down 3 times.

1996-03-19 306 James Baker 1-6-0
Spruce Goose, Long Beach, California, United States W KO 1 4
~ time: 0:18 ~
Baker admits to taking a dive in this fight, which lasted 18 seconds

1996-03-13 309 Billy McDonald
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 4
1996-02-25 310 Joe Wiggins 199 1-3-0
Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 4 4
~ referee: Jay Nady | judge: Dalby Shirley | judge: Dalby Shirley | judge: Bill Bellegia ~

1996-01-25 315 Tim Ray 215 4-2-0
Casino Magic, Bay Saint Louis, Mississippi, United States W TKO 2 4
1995-12-15 300 Mitchell Rose 236 1-7-1
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L TKO 2 4
~ time: 0:48 | referee: Joe Santarpia ~

1995-12-01 300 Louis Monaco 201 1-0-0
Fantasy Springs Casino, Indio, California, United States W KO 1 4
~ time: 1:50 ~
Monaco down three times

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