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Martin Rogan beat Aud and Skelton. At the time, he could have really looked to push himself over to the US or Europe and try for a crack at a title. What happened? he signed to fight sam sexton as a ticking over fight. I said how awful this fight was for him, stylewise, at the time. Incredibly poor fight to make.

Jamie Moore, I admit, was on the cusp of fighting for a title and signed to fight Rhodes, a man who has the exact style to do him.

Kelly pavlik signing to fight Paul Williams recently is another example. He obviously is smarter than the aforementioned.

why, when you are in a good position, do you ruin it all and fight a guy who is going to be an awful fight for you, when you don't have to do it?

Fighters want to fight and in general dont fear other fighters or let doubts enter their mind: to get to the top in this game you have to 100% focus and self belief. It is managers and promoters who make poor or questionable match making decisions - boxers, in the main, will take on anyone put in front of them.

SnoopyLoopy wrote:Kelly pavlik signing to fight Paul Williams recently is another example. He obviously is smarter than the aforementioned.

Who is Pavlik meant to fight instead?

Williams is the only major fight for him at Middleweight. The next best fight is against Sturm.

The example of the Moore v Rhodes is a poor one: few outside of Sheffield were picking Ryan ahead of fight night. Even you, Lirva, were heavily involved betting on Jamie before 'trading out' at the last moment. Ryan turned back the clock and boxed out of his skin that night to beat an out of sorts Moore. I thought it was a good fight to take at the time.

SnoopyLoopy wrote:Martin Rogan beat Aud and Skelton. At the time, he could have really looked to push himself over to the US or Europe and try for a crack at a title. What happened? he signed to fight sam sexton as a ticking over fight. I said how awful this fight was for him, stylewise, at the time. Incredibly poor fight to make.

Jamie Moore, I admit, was on the cusp of fighting for a title and signed to fight Rhodes, a man who has the exact style to do him.

Kelly pavlik signing to fight Paul Williams recently is another example. He obviously is smarter than the aforementioned.

why, when you are in a good position, do you ruin it all and fight a guy who is going to be an awful fight for you, when you don't have to do it?

This strikes as the classic "wise after the event" post.

Sometimes boxers lose. Weird, huh?

Its easy to look back and say "well, he shouldn't have taken that fight...."

Without reading the other posts, the answer is......they are told what to do/who to fight. The promoter rules, sh!t I know mate.

Well it begs the question, was Hatton right not to fight Witter? Probably.

Sexton was a bad fight for Rogan, I think after the Skelton and Harrison wins they could have played on the 'Rocky' type angle and got him a bigger fight to cash out in personally.

you could say mitchell v prescot , but if mitcthell wins it will shout him right up there i think, its the risk you have to take somtimes to move onto bigger and better things,

i hope kev does win , he's a top lad

Quite often we find fights we thought would be good, turn out to be horrible. It cant be that easy to predict what will make a great fight. After a fight we can say all sorts of things, thats easy, but before the fight its a different matter. How many times does a fighter think he he a perfect gameplan to win, and then has to try other things because it isnt working. We discuss what we think will happen and who we think will win but quite often we are wrong, I certainly am, far too often. Most had Moore beating Rhodes which is a good example. Great fight but not many thought Moore would be stopped. You could say it was a bad fight to take for any fighter who loses. Was Hatton right to take on Mayweather and Pacman, they have ruined his perfect record. Many would argue they were bad fights for Hatton because they were just too good.

Pavlic v Hopkins always looked a terrible fight for Pavlic's team to take.
Just as he was on the verge of the real big time, they give him Hopkins. A fight he stands to gain not much from, and what's he going to do against a crafty old rock chinned pro like Hop? Other than get outboxed, or win an ugly turn the tv off fight.

Jamie Moore has stated that he didn't like it when the british light middles avoided each other a few years ago, when we had depth in the division.
Thats one of the reasons he took the Rhodes fight, to see who the better in the UK.

It wasn't a bad decision, it was a great fight