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So I am supposed to believe Roy Jones, a bloke who never fights out of his country, suddenly has decided to come to Australia to face a bloke who isnt in the conversation in the top echelon, but can whack a little, whilst his next fight, a old timers "superfight" is already scheduled?

And this is all above board?

The worst kept rumour in the industry is that the Green-Stripe Dews fight was not above board. What the heck can convince me this is?

This has Roy Jones by decision written all over it. Green saves face, both pocket a stack, Jones wins and fights Hopkins. Mudnine fights a couple easy fights, ie contender winner, then late next year Green and Mundine do it all over again. Another nothing fight in the world wide scheme of things.

They were mates in the US, got the deal done, now a few weeks out from the fight there is apparent "bad blood" with the most cliche of words coming out of the mouths of both.

Nothing will convince me this is a legit fight. Buy at your own risk.

No disrespect to hopkins but this should be more crowd pleasing than jones vs hopkins

No.

smedley wrote:No disrespect to hopkins but this should be more crowd pleasing than jones vs hopkins

unless jones slaps and moves all night to a boring decision. But thats besides the point.

Tell me, why would a guy who is renowed to NEVER go to an opponents backyard, suddenly decide with a massive TWELVE WEEKS prior to the biggest fight of his career in a long time, to travel to probably the furthest destination from Florida in the world against an opponent who in the big scheme of things offers him nothing? No title, no huge name, no ring magazine belt no nothing but can whack!?

And he is taking on a guy whom most in the industry believe was involved in a worked fight for a world title not too long ago.

It STINKS people.

yep, sure does stink... stinks like 3 million dollars... that's how much Roy's been paid...

Joe Corona wrote:

smedley wrote:No disrespect to hopkins but this should be more crowd pleasing than jones vs hopkins

unless jones slaps and moves all night to a boring decision. But thats besides the point.

Tell me, why would a guy who is renowed to NEVER go to an opponents backyard, suddenly decide with a massive TWELVE WEEKS prior to the biggest fight of his career in a long time, to travel to probably the furthest destination from Florida in the world against an opponent who in the big scheme of things offers him nothing? No title, no huge name, no ring magazine belt no nothing but can whack!?

And he is taking on a guy whom most in the industry believe was involved in a worked fight for a world title not too long ago.

It STINKS people.

What are you talking about?

1. RJJ says he want's this fight so he can win the IBO world cruiserweight title and therefore giving him world titles in 7 weight classes. This is the best payday for him to do that.

2. He is guaranteed 3 million or half of the profit from the gate plus ppv, whichever is the higher. I don't know how much you think he has been making for his last few fights V Lacy and Sheika but I guarantee you he is making A LOT more out of this fight than he did out of them. He doesn't get anywhere near the PPV buys of PBF, Pacman and crew anymore.

3. As for 12 weeks prior to the biggest fight of his career?? If you think RJJ at 40 v Hopkins at 46 is the biggest fight of RJJ's career you don't know much about RJJ's career. He already beat hopkins when they were both practicaly undefeated (not counting BHOPS md LOSS on debut) and his fight against Calzaghe would be bigger than this rematch.

4. Don't get yourself confused with "most in the industry". I think you will find most people believe that Drews took the money being offered for the fight as it was the best offer. A rd or 2 into it he just figured "Oh well, I got a good payday, I am not gooing to risk getting Koed in my last fight".

Joe Corona wrote:

smedley wrote:No disrespect to hopkins but this should be more crowd pleasing than jones vs hopkins

unless jones slaps and moves all night to a boring decision. But thats besides the point.

Tell me, why would a guy who is renowed to NEVER go to an opponents backyard, suddenly decide with a massive TWELVE WEEKS prior to the biggest fight of his career in a long time, to travel to probably the furthest destination from Florida in the world against an opponent who in the big scheme of things offers him nothing? No title, no huge name, no ring magazine belt no nothing but can whack!?

And he is taking on a guy whom most in the industry believe was involved in a worked fight for a world title not too long ago.

It STINKS people.

3-5 Mil US if rumours are correct. Plus half the Payperview etc. Roy is going to make big dollars in this fight and probably see's it as an easy win.

The Drews-Green fight was no Fruad. Drews got hit in the first round and ran the rest of the fight. He didn't want to get KOd. Its not Greens fault the guy ran. He did what he could to make the fight but Drews was more interested in Survival.

Forget what people say, this is a excellent match up

Green got schooled by mundine but he is more physically imposing at this new weight, maybe due to the extra energy he has, and i don't think todays roy has mundines foot speed, he looks to be on old legs but he is evasive and cagey and still has good hand speed so who knows who will win

LMAO at the IBO title. Just a smokescreen.

I said biggest fight in a long time, not biggest ever. And yes, for those two regardless of age that is a big fight for them.

The Stripped Jew camp had mouths, they spoke to people here. If you honestly believe that he refused to fight after getting hit in the first round you are very naive.

Roy wins on points, neither get seriously hurt.

You heard it here first folks...

RJJ by decision.....gee thats going out on a limb.
Why can't a decent fight be put together without blokes reading too much into it.
The simple fact is RJJ wont get a shot at any other cruiserweight title and he wants one, so the IBO it is.
The other fact is he is getting a sh.tload of money. Don't be fooled just because this fight isn't in the good ol' USA that RJJ isnt being very well paid.
I dont think Green saves face going the distance with RJJ. Thats on the cards. The world is at Greenies feet if he wins, and it dents RJJ's asperations of a mega fight if he gets ko'd.
Look at it for what it is. A competetive fight on Australian soil....

Joe Corona wrote:LMAO at the IBO title. Just a smokescreen.

I said biggest fight in a long time, not biggest ever. And yes, for those two regardless of age that is a big fight for them.

The Stripped Jew camp had mouths, they spoke to people here. If you honestly believe that he refused to fight after getting hit in the first round you are very naive.

Roy wins on points, neither get seriously hurt.

You heard it here first folks...

Stipe Drews got hurt.........did you watch the fight ??
he got rocked a numbner of times and didnt want to engage after that.
Just watch the fight, forget any bullsh.t that comes out of a losing camps mouth.

Strongly disagree this is the best opportunity for BOTH combatants Jones wants to close that gap between light heavy and heavy weight and have a cruiser weight world title and for GREEN if he wins, it wont only be in Australian history it will be worlwide, and how often do we get fights like this in our backyard c'mon

I don't know, I find it too hard to believe that the Green-Stipe fight was rigged - or if it was that Green had any knowledge of this.
To me, and hey I could be wrong, Green doesn't seem like the kind of fighter that would participate in/organise a rigged fight. There are fighters out there that I wouldn't put it past, but Green isn't one of them.

Stipe obviously knew he was going to retire, it seemed too much like he copped that punch and figured not to engage. His heart was definitely not in it, the title meant nothing as he wouldn't fight again, he just didn't bother. He may have "thrown" the fight by not fighting, but I honestly can't see that being due to any word from Green's camp. His heart just didn't want to deal with it.

As for the Green-Jones fight - I'd like to see $$$ numbers but I highly doubt RJJ has been making any significant pay-days in his last handful of fights. Green is a huge draw here in oz and the fight will make a lot of money. I think this is a $$$ fight for RJJ (the holding a belt thing could well be an additional bonus) It's also a way for RJJ to get potentially TWO big paydays before retiring (Green and B-Hop) which he has a very good chance of winning both. Green's power is a risk, but that's it really. B-Hop shouldn't hurt him - so the risks are minimal (in RJJ's eyes at least) with both opponents, but huge financial rewards for both.

Why would he travel now when he refused to earlier? Easy question to answer. Green offers a good pay day here (nothing in the US) and he's near the end of his career AND how many other big paydays (especially with little risk) are awaiting RJJ these days???? RJJ ducked travelling for guys like Calzaghe because he could make enough money in the US without taking such a risky fight.

It's not the marquee match some would have you believe, and it certainly isn't a legit world title fight, but as an encounter between two guys in the world top 10, both with exciting styles, and an unpredictable outcome, it has appeal.

As for why does Jones travel now - ageing greats do tend to do this once their drawing power in the US starts to fade. Tyson, Tapia, Barrera, Bowe are some recent examples.

If this isn't a marquee match for Aussie fight fans then WTF is!?!

Marlin wrote:If this isn't a marquee match for Aussie fight fans then WTF is!?!

darchinyan-mundine at welter

Adamj1987 wrote:

Marlin wrote:If this isn't a marquee match for Aussie fight fans then WTF is!?!

darchinyan-mundine at welter

Adamj1987 wrote:

Marlin wrote:If this isn't a marquee match for Aussie fight fans then WTF is!?!

darchinyan-mundine at welter

after posts like that dont forget to put a otherwise people think u r retarded

adamheight wrote:

Adamj1987 wrote:

Marlin wrote:If this isn't a marquee match for Aussie fight fans then WTF is!?!

darchinyan-mundine at welter

after posts like that dont forget to put a otherwise people think u r retarded

D is better

so green isn't going to hit jones hard?

no way green doesn't try and knock his head off.

buster007 wrote:so green isn't going to hit jones hard?

no way green doesn't try and knock his head off.

He tried to hit mundine hard but was made to
miss too often. Jones is more elusive than choc.

The Examiner has a few salient points about tomorrow's bout that are worth quoting as Danny is not out of it:

"This week, modern era boxing greats Bernard Hopkins (49-5, with 32 KOs) and Roy Jones Jr. (54-5, with 40 KOs) will attempt to move one step closer to finally facing off with each other again in March 2010. Both have an agreement in place for a bout next year if each man win’s his interim bout this Wednesday.

As for Roy Jones Jr., he will be facing hard hitting Australian Danny Green (27-3, with 24 KOs) for his cruiserweight title in Sydney at Acer Arena. Jones will attempt to become the only man in the history of boxing to hold titles in the middleweight, super middleweight, light heavyweight, cruiserweight and heavyweight divisions….no small accomplishment for the forty year old boxing great. From a historical perspective, many have cited this may be the most significant boxing match to be held in Australia since Jack Johnson wrestled away the heavyweight championship from Tommy Burns back in 1908. Ticket sales for the bout have been brisk, and a huge sellout crowd is expected to be on hand.

...Boxing, like no other sport, is the most unforgiving to aging and fading athletes, but Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. have largely been the exception to this rule...

...In the case of Roy Jones Jr., fans and media have left him for dead after each of his four losses since 2004, especially given the brutal fashion by which he lost each match. But to his credit, the former pound-for-pound king has carefully managed to get himself back into the picture of relevancy. Most recently, after suffering a twelve-round beating at the hands of Joe Calzaghe, Jones has come back to dominate once good boxers Omar Sheika and Jeff Lacy....

Honestly, not knowing much about Enrique Ornelas or Danny Green, it would seem Roy Jones Jr. is taking the biggest risk this Wednesday. Jones is fighting overseas for the first time and moving up in weight to fight a much harder puncher."

^^ i just read that article myself, and thought it to be very well put together.

It is not the biggest fight in Australia since Johnson/Burns.

Jimmy Carruthers and Lionel Rose defended their undisputed bantamweight titles here. WBC Featherweight Champion Johnny Famechon defended against former undisputed flyweight and bantamweight champion Fighting Harada in Sydney. They were bigger fights than this.

However, I am sure both fighters are fair dinkum. Green and Jones are both proud men with no intention of losing a fight.

Marlin wrote:If this isn't a marquee match for Aussie fight fans then WTF is!?!

For Aussies, yes, of course. I meant in global terms. And before you start, Tyson-Francis in Manchester was not a marquee match outside the UK, either!