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Hyder was reported in today's " Australian " suggesting matchups with Adamek , David Haye , Hopkins & Evander Hollyfield
were all possibilities. Realistic or just talk. Any thoughts on these ?

Adamek would be a real risk, he can bang and he can fight. I'm also unsure about the weight, Adamek just fought at heavy while Green fought at 180...

David who?

Hopkins would seem to be the big one. The trash talk has already started and he would be the best name available.

Hollyfield is OLD.

I'm not sure why they said they aren't interested in Dawson? I can only imagine the money isn't there. He doesn't seem to be a massive draw...

Still, Dawson has a chin I would like Green to test.

Adamek - He is a slick cruiserweight quick, powerful and very smart, in all honesty i do not think Green could win to many rounds with Adamek.
Hopkins - Good fight and exposure for Green, but the guy is 46 and he is still a great fighter plus he is looking for a massive money fight so he can retire.
Haye - I think weight difference is too much, green is not even a real cruiserweight
Evander - would be a big draw draw card, marketing around it would be Danny "Legend Killer" Green blah blah blah, Green would be dominate in that battle against a aging and burnt out fighter trying to pay off his debts.

Good fights to help build him in the US would be

Johnathan Banks
Troy Ross
Antonio Tarver
Jean Pascal

Good local battle

Sakio Bika at Light HW

hopkins is the logical choice.

it would bring the most money and it would be the best scalp for danny.

and he would have a chance to be the ist to ko hopkins too.

Maybe he should fight his mandatory :??

Soundkamp wrote:
Johnathan Banks
Antonio Tarver

Mr Soundkamp,

Good call with these two . I never thought of these fighters.

Banks as a Cruiser is weak but well known in the US, also he was a contender for the WBO cruiser title until he cried off.

Tarver is very well known (obviously!!!) and is beatable at LHW.


Two very good options there!!!

However if he would come Europe way what about Brahmer or Firat Aram???

Green has previously said that he would never entertain fighting Tarver again, after negotiations soured for their fight that wasn't to be.

Fights i hope he considers;

Lt Heavy;Dawson,Pascal,Campillo,Bika

Catchweight (82Kg); Hopkins,Erdei

Cruiser; Cunningham,Adamek,Ross.

Respect for Johnson,Tarver and Hopkins but I hope Green doesn't want to be remembered as a guy who got these fighters at the right time (Calzaghe and Dawson), he needs some of those fighters above if he wants to be remembered with the best.

I hope in the new year he resets himself and focus's on what lays ahead for next year.

bollox wrote:Maybe he should fight his mandatory :??

Who might that be? The IBO has a whoever challenges you system.

I cannot see Danny going down to 13 stone again. I am pretty sure he did that as a favor to Jones.

He didn't do him any other favors.

Brute wrote:

bollox wrote:Maybe he should fight his mandatory :??

Who might that be? The IBO has a whoever challenges you system.

I cannot see Danny going down to 13 stone again. I am pretty sure he did that as a favor to Jones.

He didn't do him any other favors.

No mandatories? Then what I considered to be a nothing title is now less than nothing. And Danny Green is not a titleholder of any sort

Bollox whats it with you never a nice word always going on about nothing titles. Danny Green fought and one his title, nothing title RJJ wanted it, and RJJ doesnt fight for nothing. Old saying if you nave nothing nice to say then say nothing.

BHOP is the fight. Greeny should put every possible effort into this bout, It would be a great bout.
Dawson is very dangerous, thats why neither Green or Bhopn talk about him but I think it is a winnable fight for Green, but probably not a style as suited as Bhops for Danny.
The rest of the names is just Angelo getting ahead of himself. Adamek is a possibility and would be a war at the right weight. But Haye and Holy, I don't think so.
Whatever they do, no doubt Greeny will prepare well and challenge any of his opponents inc Bhop.

colin russell wrote:Bollox whats it with you never a nice word always going on about nothing titles. Danny Green fought and one his title, nothing title RJJ wanted it, and RJJ doesnt fight for nothing. Old saying if you nave nothing nice to say then say nothing.

I call it being realistic. Danny Green won the title against a fighter who had previously fought virtually nobody of note. His record for his last 10 fights was 5-4-1. Then Green beats a shot as to bits fighter in Jones (who if there was a commission for mandatory retirement who have been forced into retirement some years ago) at 9 kg's under the weight limit

The names mentioned in the first post

Adamek - KO's a LHW + 2 Kgs Green easily. mismatch due to their size difference
David Haye - you have got to be kidding, right?
Hopkins - 46 years of age
Evander Holyfield - 47 years of age

Not one of them is even a cruiserweight (the division that Green holds a title in). There's something very wrong with this entire scenario and every time Green fights a Jones or any of the abovementioned type of fighter it'll be another nail in boxing's coffin

^^ nup...no way. A nail in the coffin of boxing . Can't have it mate. Many people who follow boxing, and some that don't, had a bet on that fight. Guess who was fav'?

So, i far as i can see, you are coming from one of two directions. You are either using hindsight, or are among the minority (RJJ was a $1:38 fav') who were convinced of the outcome going in Green's favour.

The last fight RJJ had before this fight showed he still had class. No matter what you say he accounted for lacy, a once decent fighter, easily. This fight could never have been called a mismatch, and further, there are many circumstances that may have contributed to the outcome (delay due to wraps, RJJ getting cold etc....) but regardless, it was not a nail in the sports coffin, especially not in this country. Most sports-inclined people talked about the fight, most people have seen the punch....it's good for the sport.

I do agree with some of your predictions against the fighters named, but i can not sit by and read you say that that fight was bad for boxing.

Hopkins would def be the money fight, maybe WBC champ Zsolt Edrei ?

Soundkamp wrote:Adamek - He is a slick cruiserweight quick, powerful and very smart, in all honesty i do not think Green could win to many rounds with Adamek.
Hopkins - Good fight and exposure for Green, but the guy is 46 and he is still a great fighter plus he is looking for a massive money fight so he can retire.
Haye - I think weight difference is too much, green is not even a real cruiserweight
Evander - would be a big draw draw card, marketing around it would be Danny "Legend Killer" Green blah blah blah, Green would be dominate in that battle against a aging and burnt out fighter trying to pay off his debts.

Good fights to help build him in the US would be

Johnathan Banks
Troy Ross
Antonio Tarver
Jean Pascal

Good local battle

Sakio Bika at Light HW

Id like to see him fight Troy Ross or Tarver

toppity wrote:^^ nup...no way. A nail in the coffin of boxing . Can't have it mate. Many people who follow boxing, and some that don't, had a bet on that fight. Guess who was fav'?

So, i far as i can see, you are coming from one of two directions. You are either using hindsight, or are among the minority (RJJ was a $1:38 fav') who were convinced of the outcome going in Green's favour.

The last fight RJJ had before this fight showed he still had class. No matter what you say he accounted for lacy, a once decent fighter, easily. This fight could never have been called a mismatch, and further, there are many circumstances that may have contributed to the outcome (delay due to wraps, RJJ getting cold etc....) but regardless, it was not a nail in the sports coffin, especially not in this country. Most sports-inclined people talked about the fight, most people have seen the punch....it's good for the sport.

I do agree with some of your predictions against the fighters named, but i can not sit by and read you say that that fight was bad for boxing.

No hindsight, bias or anything else involved. I've watched Jones for a long time now and there is no way he's even 50% of the fighter he once was. Remember Tosca Petridis beating "the great" Iran Barkley some years ago? It was an absurd joke that our media portrayed Barkley in this light simply to build up Petridis. And anyone that wasn't an avid boxing follower believed the BS. I was embarassed that the authorities gave Barkley a license to even fight. In effect the win meant nothing since Barkley was shot and legally blind at the time. A couple of minor details the media left out but at the end of the day Petridis had a win over "the great" Iran Barkley, right?

This fight good for boxing? Short term and locally, yes. Long term, an emphatic no. Yes because it kicks along the local interest and no because well, look at it this way...if he fights 46 year old Hopkins, Green will have fought an unranked fighter in Jones followed by an unranked Hopkins in weight divisions neither belonged in. I fail to see how a series of one-off fights involving shells of formerly great fighters fighting in un-natural weight classes is good for the sport in any way shape or form. This is the sort of shite that has been killing boxing since the 80's

p.s. do you think Pacquaio should have fought ranked contenders before challenging the titleholders whenever he went up in weight?

That was not a bad effort by Petridis, considering that it was only his second pro fight. Barkley was past his best by then, but still had some ability.

Barkley won nine of his next ten fights after that, including one against Koetzee.

It wasnt only OUR media who built up this fight.
The US gave Danny no hope. There was a mega fight on the horizon between two "formerly great" fighters in RJJ and Bhop and Green spoilt it. Green v Bhop is a great fight, regardless of Hopkins age. Hopkins has not taken the belting that RJJ had taken towards the end (especially his last by the "Machine").
BHop lost a split decision aganist Calzaghe and if they fought it would be at an agreed weight as the RJJ fight was. If the IBO is happy to allow this to make a fantastic match up let it happen.
I would like to see a match up against Adamek at Lt heavy. That would be a war !!

Green VS Adamek is a 50/50 fight at 180 pounds. Briggs and Green are very evenly matched skill wise. Adamek VS Briggs were even fights that could have gone either way. Briggs hurt Adamek in there fights and Green hits harder than Briggs IMO.

Yeah not a bad effort for a 2 fight novice. But he turned out to be an average boxer. Which in turn goes back to how far Barkley had regressed by that point

Coetzee was 44 years old. The same Coetzee flattened by Frank Bruno in 1 round more than a decade before. At the time of the Bruno fight Coetzee was also past his own best (hence he Bruno fight)

See what I mean when I say that boxing history is being severely distorted by old fighters fighting, and in their un-natural divisions?

I still can't agree. These fights are huge for a reason. There is an interest. And that interest is there for a reason. I was at the fight with a couple of good blokes. People who know boxing better than me. They couldn't tell me what was about to transpire. So this is boxing. Strange and interesting things happen, as was the casein this fight. I'm sold......& will remain so. I refuse to be negative about such a great result

We could go on forever about this. Interest in this fight was high because of the reputation Jones brought with him which was forged from the early 90's up to about 5 years ago (the dopey general public knew nothing much about the last bit and the media in all their ridiculous carryon didn't tell people). What Green brings to the table is the much needed antidote to Mundine's verbal diarrhoea, and popularity. What neither fighter brought to the ring was their primes. Jones was the best credentialled fighter to fight here in a long time, and judging by the fight he was also the most shot fighter to fight here in a long time

What you went to seems more an event, rather than a top class boxing match where the idea is to pair 2 evenly matched fighters of high skill, preferably in their primes and at their best weight

After moving him backwards and forwards between light heavy and cruiser "Boxrec" has settled on Danny Green as No 1 Cruiserweight.

....for the moment anyway. Tomorrow may be different.