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HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 11:23
by overhand_right
WBA
Champion: Amir Khan
Champion: Marcos Maidaina
1. Dimitri Salita
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Diaz
4. Victor Cayo
5. Andreas Kotelnik
6. Kendall Holt
7. Mike Alvarado
8. Victor Ortiz
9. Richard Hatton
10. Sirimongkol Singwangcha
Quite simply the finest fighter in the world, not only not champion of their organisation, or even their co-champion as they like to divvy up their belt, but even RANKED BELOW DIMITRI SALITA.
Words fail me.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 11:38
by banjo
That's the WBA for you.
I haven't even heard of Cayo or Alvarado either.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 11:39
by 15829
ha ha ha you've gotta love the wba

Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 11:47
by Deno1986
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 11:55
by stujones
banjo wrote:That's the WBA for you.
I haven't even heard of Cayo or Alvarado either.
These two are actually pretty decent what I have seen. Worst fighters than them are in various top tens. Well, think they would both smash Salita.
Having Hatton at #8 is pretty poor also.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 11:57
by Adamj1987
overhand_right wrote:WBA
Champion: Amir Khan
Champion: Marcos Maidaina
1. Dimitri Salita
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Diaz
4. Victor Cayo
5. Andreas Kotelnik
6. Kendall Holt
7. Mike Alvarado
8. Victor Ortiz
9. Richard Hatton
10. Sirimongkol Singwangcha
Quite simply the finest fighter in the world, not only not champion of their organisation, or even their co-champion as they like to divvy up their belt, but even RANKED BELOW DIMITRI SALITA.
Words fail me.
manny-salita for WBA p4p supremacy
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:00
by Deno1986
no sign of Tim Bradley on that list either who I think is the best light welter out there apart from Pacman.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:01
by stujones
Deno1986 wrote:no sign of Tim Bradley on that list either who I think is the best light welter out there apart from Pacman.
Bradley won't be there cause he is a champion with one of the organisations belt.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:05
by Deno1986
stujones wrote:Deno1986 wrote:no sign of Tim Bradley on that list either who I think is the best light welter out there apart from Pacman.
Bradley won't be there cause he is a champion with one of the organisations belt.

Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:15
by Datsue
banjo wrote:That's the WBA for you.
I haven't even heard of Cayo or Alvarado either.
Alvarado's an unbeaten Yank, shiny record, few good wins over some gatekeepers but I get the feeling he's very protected.
Cayo though, is more than handy. He's from the Dominican Republic -- I think, somewhere like that anyway -- & has beat up a few tough Mexicans (Arturo Morua, former lightweight champ Julio Diaz), fights with his hands down & switch hits a bit like Herol Graham. Very good mover, can obviously bang a bit & is tall for the weight.
Alvarado I have my doubts about but Cayo -- as Stu said -- would stand Salita on his head.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:17
by Adamj1987
Datsue wrote:
Alvarado's an unbeaten Yank, shiny record, few good wins over some gatekeepers but I get the feeling he's very protected.
sounds like salita if you put in ukrainian-american instead of yank
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:19
by banjo
Datsue wrote:banjo wrote:That's the WBA for you.
I haven't even heard of Cayo or Alvarado either.
Alvarado's an unbeaten Yank, shiny record, few good wins over some gatekeepers but I get the feeling he's very protected.
Cayo though, is more than handy. He's from the Dominican Republic -- I think, somewhere like that anyway -- & has beat up a few tough Mexicans (Arturo Morua, former lightweight champ Julio Diaz), fights with his hands down & switch hits a bit like Herol Graham. Very good mover, can obviously bang a bit & is tall for the weight.
Alvarado I have my doubts about but Cayo -- as Stu said -- would stand Salita on his head.
I'll have to keep my eyes open for Cayo then.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:20
by Datsue
Adamj1987 wrote:Datsue wrote:
Alvarado's an unbeaten Yank, shiny record, few good wins over some gatekeepers but I get the feeling he's very protected.
sounds like salita if you put in ukrainian-american instead of yank
Nah, the gatekeepers that Alvarado's beaten have at least been people I've heard of. Alvarado's beaten up a couple of former world title challengers; Salita's beaten up a couple of ex-bog cleaners from Tijuana.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 04 Dec 2009, 12:21
by Adamj1987
Datsue wrote:Adamj1987 wrote:Datsue wrote:
Alvarado's an unbeaten Yank, shiny record, few good wins over some gatekeepers but I get the feeling he's very protected.
sounds like salita if you put in ukrainian-american instead of yank
Nah, the gatekeepers that Alvarado's beaten have at least been people I've heard of. Alvarado's beaten up a couple of former world title challengers; Salita's beaten up a couple of ex-bog cleaners from Tijuana.

Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 05 Dec 2009, 09:34
by overhand_right
Who's the soft touch in those names then? the one we can fully expect to be imported to Bolton once Salita falls down?
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 05 Dec 2009, 10:23
by Deno1986
Would McCloskey not be worthy of a place in the top 10 after winning the EBU strap? Im sure he will be there or there abouts when the rankings are updated at the end of the month.
Re: HOW TO BEGIN TO EXPLAIN/JUSTIFY THIS WBA RANKING:
Posted: 05 Dec 2009, 10:59
by overhand_right
Salita shouldn't be ranked in anyones top 20 - Boxrec's got him at 60, and that seems about right.