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Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 08:01
by Daveyswan
Hi All,
Does anyone know where in Italy this fight is going to be?
Could be an interestng jolly boys!
Daveyswan
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 08:52
by taffytoon
It's in Rovigo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8323270.stm
A few of us are going over but it is supposed to be a very quiet town
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 08:58
by Chris W 1982
Whats the plan for Clev if successful???
Campella the WBA champ??? Hopkins would touch him, Dawson and Cloud would both eat him, how about Glen Johnson???
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 09:20
by 15829
hes not ready for johnson yet to seasoned maybe someone like brahmer or murat both be tough fights at this satge
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 09:34
by Grays_Dan
Any chance of this being on the telly?
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 09:39
by Deno1986
Grays_Dan wrote:Any chance of this being on the telly?
by the looks of it its not even on Italian TV so a stream could be hard to find for it. Its on a Wednesday night. Hopefully Sky will splash out on it, it is a EBU Title afterall.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 09:40
by 15829
it will end up on sky i remember jones fought in italy i think it was a thursday and they showed that
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 10:53
by MrBoxingUK2
The quiet man 2004 wrote:Whats the plan for Clev if successful???
Campella the WBA champ??? Hopkins would touch him, Dawson and Cloud would both eat him, how about Glen Johnson???
cloud would eat clev? i doubt that clev to jab his head off all night long.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 10:57
by leforge
Its on Friday 29th read the link so good chance it be on sky.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 11:04
by Deno1986
leforge wrote:Its on Friday 29th read the link so good chance it be on sky.
my bad.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 18:38
by Tykemania
Deno1986 wrote:Grays_Dan wrote:Any chance of this being on the telly?
by the looks of it its not even on Italian TV so a stream could be hard to find for it. Its on a Wednesday night. Hopefully Sky will splash out on it, it is a EBU Title afterall.
You'd imagine they would - Fwank would probably have ordered Cleverly to pass on the chance otherwise.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 09 Dec 2009, 19:00
by taffytoon
It is on T.V gents, Sky is looking the most likely.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 12:30
by Wales
MrBoxingUK2 wrote:The quiet man 2004 wrote:Whats the plan for Clev if successful???
Campella the WBA champ??? Hopkins would touch him, Dawson and Cloud would both eat him, how about Glen Johnson???
cloud would eat clev? i doubt that clev to jab his head off all night long.
Thats a big call.
Clev should defend his euro title a few times, before moving into fringe then world class. Dont see the sense in going fomr a relatively weak euro champ, to travoris cloud in one jump. Clev can eb caught, and cloud can bang.
has Julio Cesar Gonzales retired? Could he be tempted over?
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 15:05
by ourkid1984
Can't wait for this fight, it will be another chance for Clev to up his game again and I think he will do.
I think he will need a knock out or stoppage though.
I think the only big American name that could beat Clev is Hopkins and I think that would be by fighting dirty. I think a fight with Dawson would be a classic and would bring them both fame and deserved
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 17:39
by righthook
ourkid1984 wrote:Can't wait for this fight, it will be another chance for Clev to up his game again and I think he will do.
I think he will need a knock out or stoppage though.
I think the only big American name that could beat Clev is Hopkins and I think that would be by fighting dirty. I think a fight with Dawson would be a classic and would bring them both fame and deserved
are you being serios?
dawson would eat him. it wouldnt even be competitive, cleverly is a good boxer and is getting better each fight but its a fact hes only ever beat 1 decent fighter in oakey.
there no where near in the same league. dawson is in the prem and cleverlys in league 2.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 18:41
by whiskey
Cant say i know much about the Italian.
But Clev is getting better and better and a joy to watch.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 18:46
by taffytoon
righthook wrote:ourkid1984 wrote:Can't wait for this fight, it will be another chance for Clev to up his game again and I think he will do.
I think he will need a knock out or stoppage though.
I think the only big American name that could beat Clev is Hopkins and I think that would be by fighting dirty. I think a fight with Dawson would be a classic and would bring them both fame and deserved
are you being serios?
dawson would eat him. it wouldnt even be competitive, cleverly is a good boxer and is getting better each fight but its a fact hes only ever beat 1 decent fighter in oakey.
there no where near in the same league. dawson is in the prem and cleverlys in league 2.
Yes but at the top of League 2 aiming for promotion. And as always upsets can happen.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 18:56
by Deno1986
One thing is for sure, the Light Heavyweight division is shaping up very nicely with Cloud, Dawson, Murat, Cleverly, Pascal and Sumenov all going strong. Get rid of some of the Hall of Fame passengers like Hopkins, Jones and Johnson and you have a super division imo.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 10 Dec 2009, 18:58
by ourkid1984
righthook wrote:ourkid1984 wrote:Can't wait for this fight, it will be another chance for Clev to up his game again and I think he will do.
I think he will need a knock out or stoppage though.
I think the only big American name that could beat Clev is Hopkins and I think that would be by fighting dirty. I think a fight with Dawson would be a classic and would bring them both fame and deserved
are you being serios?
dawson would eat him. it wouldnt even be competitive, cleverly is a good boxer and is getting better each fight but its a fact hes only ever beat 1 decent fighter in oakey.
there no where near in the same league. dawson is in the prem and cleverlys in league 2.
In that case they should feed Dawson more often
I never said that Cleverly would beat Dawson, I just think it would be a good fight, I don't and nor does many other people consider Dawson to be a big name so it would be good for both boxers exposure.
On the subject of who would win, in my eyes I can't see many people coping with Clevs speed and in a couple of fights time he would of improved more and would stand a good chance. Dawson's wins against an old and now predictable Glen Johnson, all on points and his 2 points wins against Tarver don't overly impress. Who else is on his win list? Ademek was he not drained to make the weight? Can't remember but he is a natural Cruiserweight. All of these wins, wide margins they might be but where's his knock out successes and stoppages to?
Ok Clev hasn't fought many well known boxers but he has the speed and skills to nick a few rounds off of Dawson now
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 06:27
by leforge
Not on sky according to Boxing news showing Mcalliste crappy commonwealth fight!
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 06:32
by 15829
leforge wrote:Not on sky according to Boxing news showing Mcalliste crappy commonwealth fight!
am thinking they might do something similar to the belfast show
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 07:05
by righthook
ourkid1984 wrote:righthook wrote:ourkid1984 wrote:Can't wait for this fight, it will be another chance for Clev to up his game again and I think he will do.
I think he will need a knock out or stoppage though.
I think the only big American name that could beat Clev is Hopkins and I think that would be by fighting dirty. I think a fight with Dawson would be a classic and would bring them both fame and deserved
are you being serios?
dawson would eat him. it wouldnt even be competitive, cleverly is a good boxer and is getting better each fight but its a fact hes only ever beat 1 decent fighter in oakey.
there no where near in the same league. dawson is in the prem and cleverlys in league 2.
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In that case they should feed Dawson more often
I never said that Cleverly would beat Dawson, I just think it would be a good fight, I don't and nor does many other people consider Dawson to be a big name so it would be good for both boxers exposure.
On the subject of who would win, in my eyes I can't see many people coping with Clevs speed and in a couple of fights time he would of improved more and would stand a good chance. Dawson's wins against an old and now predictable Glen Johnson, all on points and his 2 points wins against Tarver don't overly impress. Who else is on his win list? Ademek was he not drained to make the weight? Can't remember but he is a natural Cruiserweight. All of these wins, wide margins they might be but where's his knock out successes and stoppages to?
Ok Clev hasn't fought many well known boxers but he has the speed and skills to nick a few rounds off of Dawson now
cant believe where even having this conversation.
dawson has fought some real class fighters in tarver and johnson, and you also forgot to mention tomasz adamek who was unbeaten when they fought and had over 30 fights. every1 knows how good of a boxer dawson is he is rated highly by every 1 in the game so dont know how the hell you say people dont consider him a big name in boxing
cleverly has had 1 decent opponent, in his entire career, (who took the fight on 2 weeks notice) he was dropped and hurt of joey vegas, (i was there) he had a hard fight with fry (who is an old man, and had 3 fights in 2 years previous.) you say cleverly would pinch a few rounds,
he would get destroyed it wouldnt even be a fight. you name names before saying who has dawson fought worth talking about bar tarver and johnson,
who has cleverly fought? bum africans. billy boyle (oh my god) mclintosh, unbelievably raw. any1 else? oh and you say dawson beat an old johnson, the same johnson would k.o. cleverly in under 4 rounds.
there not in the same league, believe me.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 07:16
by jBacca
I too, believe it's a bit premature to be throwing these huge names at Cleverly.. is he really ready??
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 17:59
by crusader
ourkid1984 wrote:righthook wrote:ourkid1984 wrote:Can't wait for this fight, it will be another chance for Clev to up his game again and I think he will do.
I think he will need a knock out or stoppage though.
I think the only big American name that could beat Clev is Hopkins and I think that would be by fighting dirty. I think a fight with Dawson would be a classic and would bring them both fame and deserved
are you being serios?
dawson would eat him. it wouldnt even be competitive, cleverly is a good boxer and is getting better each fight but its a fact hes only ever beat 1 decent fighter in oakey.
there no where near in the same league. dawson is in the prem and cleverlys in league 2.
In that case they should feed Dawson more often
I never said that Cleverly would beat Dawson, I just think it would be a good fight, I don't and nor does many other people consider Dawson to be a big name so it would be good for both boxers exposure.
On the subject of who would win, in my eyes I can't see many people coping with Clevs speed and in a couple of fights time he would of improved more and would stand a good chance. Dawson's wins against an old and now predictable Glen Johnson, all on points and his 2 points wins against Tarver don't overly impress. Who else is on his win list? Ademek was he not drained to make the weight? Can't remember but he is a natural Cruiserweight. All of these wins, wide margins they might be but where's his knock out successes and stoppages to?
Ok Clev hasn't fought many well known boxers but he has the speed and skills to nick a few rounds off of Dawson now
Tarver, Johnson, Adamek, and even Eric Harding are WAY better than the guys Cleverly has been beating. He hasn't proven he has those skills at the world class level. It is easy to look good against the likes of Fry, Boyle, and Mcintosh, none of them are anywhere near world class. Beating Brancalion doesn't really won't make much of a statement either. Brahemer annihlated him in 83 seconds and he hasn't beaten any top fighters himself.
Cleverly would lose very convincingly to Dawson right now.
Re: Antonio Brancalion V Nathan Cleverly
Posted: 11 Dec 2009, 19:26
by righthook
Tarver, Johnson, Adamek, and even Eric Harding are WAY better than the guys Cleverly has been beating. He hasn't proven he has those skills at the world class level. It is easy to look good against the likes of Fry, Boyle, and Mcintosh, none of them are anywhere near world class. Beating Brancalion doesn't really won't make much of a statement either. Brahemer annihlated him in 83 seconds and he hasn't beaten any top fighters himself.
Cleverly would lose very convincingly to Dawson right now.
couldnt agree more.