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Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 11:21
by dondada
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2009/danny- ... rker-fight
Interesting this. Well, you know, relatively. Any thoughts?
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 11:28
by 1southpaw
i think it's all gonna go tits up for the greedy hattons . why try to stop a fighter earning a living . it's alright when you have millions in the bank .
also would he have done that if he had one ????? i think not
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 11:36
by JamesH
hmm its a tough one really. Can't blame Danny for taking the fight, I'd have probably taken it for that payday! On the same token, I can't really blame Hatton promotions who signed him and presumably had their own path for him, which didnt include sending him into the lions den.
At times I have criticised Ricky the boxer (or the pr man) but as a promoter its so far so good, the shows have largely been very competitive and enjoyable so as long as it continues they can run their business as they see fit.
I just hope Danny doesnt suffer too much because he saved a show that would have otherwise been cancelled.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 11:48
by J
it doesnt seem that bad to me, seeing as Couch is employed or at least strongly aligned with the hattons....could merely be a temporary thing.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 11:53
by Chambers2
It's abit harsh of the Hattons to try and stop Butler earning a career high payday against Barker IMO and it's even harsher to sack him for it.
I thought Hatton Promotions were suppose to be boxer-friendly
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 11:58
by 15829
Chambers2 wrote:It's abit harsh of the Hattons to try and stop Butler earning a career high payday against Barker IMO and it's even harsher to sack him for it.
I thought Hatton Promotions were suppose to be boxer-friendly
Must just be when there winning
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 12:19
by slapbangwhallop
Butler had nothing to lose against Barker - win, and it was a Rocky story - lose, and people will acknowledge that he took it with just hours notice. But I'm with the Hattons on this to be honest, if they are to invest time and money in his career then he should listen to what they have to say and be guided by that. I thought that Couch was somehow under the Hatton umbrella anyway.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 12:49
by Wake up call
I'm not sure if Jane is working for them or not anymore. She was promoting shows under the Hatton name in Bristol but seems to be back doing her own thing again. I could be wrong.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 12:51
by alexpaterson
JamesH wrote:hmm its a tough one really. Can't blame Danny for taking the fight, I'd have probably taken it for that payday! On the same token, I can't really blame Hatton promotions who signed him and presumably had their own path for him, which didnt include sending him into the lions den.
At times I have criticised Ricky the boxer (or the pr man) but as a promoter its so far so good, the shows have largely been very competitive and enjoyable so as long as it continues they can run their business as they see fit.
I just hope Danny doesnt suffer too much because he saved a show that would have otherwise been cancelled.
I agree with this, Butler just lost an English Title shot so Hatton probably had planned a way to get him back to domestic level which wasnt putting him in way out of his depth but at the same time you cant blame him for taking the fight he showed he's not afraid of a challenge and has guts
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 14:10
by dbflex
Jane is not with the Hattons anymore.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 14:15
by slapbangwhallop
dbflex wrote:Jane is not with the Hattons anymore.
because of this?
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 14:17
by n1ebf
I'd trust Jane Couch personally.
besides which there's a constructive dismissal in there I'm pretty sure, only it would take ages and wouldn't be worth enough cash to bother pursuing.
Danny Butler has been a pro for 3 and a half years, had an English, then a British Title fight in his 20th and 21st fights respectively.
Perhaps he didn't want to still be waiting for his shot after 43 fights, 9 years, a bucket load of interviews, podcasts and grand proclamations like Hatton's brother.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 14:32
by dbflex
I'm pretty sure Jane told me she'd split with then b4 Butler got the shot at Barker. think maybe Poxon's arrival meant there was less for her to do
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 15:16
by Twinkle Toes
He was in breach of contract it would seem - What's the big deal?
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 15:55
by whatashambles
Yeah the interesting quote in there is the "now he's lost I'm not sure they'll want to hold him," in regards to Henessey.
I wouldn't be surprised it they thought if he won then he could get a better contract elsewhere?
You can't blame the Hattons though. He took the fight and because of his loss he's obviously worth less to them than he was before, and might not be 'deserving' of the money they originally promised to him, but he wanted the title shot.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 17:31
by taffytoon
Contracts are contracts simple as that. If one of my contractors did work for someone else I would terminate our agreement also.
Look at it like this -
If you phone in sick at work and your boss then finds out you went and did a shift for a rival company would he be happy?
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 18:11
by whatashambles
taffytoon wrote:
If you phone in sick at work and your boss then finds out you went and did a shift for a rival company would he be happy?
And by taking the shift he significantly damaged his rating
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 15 Dec 2009, 18:26
by whiskey
Seems to be storm/teacup to me.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 04:29
by ALI
whatashambles wrote:taffytoon wrote:
If you phone in sick at work and your boss then finds out you went and did a shift for a rival company would he be happy?
And by taking the shift he significantly damaged his rating
Agreed. The Hatton's had a vested interest in Butler and him just fighting whoever he wants whenever he wants is obviously not in their best interests.
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 12:54
by princess
ALI wrote:whatashambles wrote:taffytoon wrote:
If you phone in sick at work and your boss then finds out you went and did a shift for a rival company would he be happy?
And by taking the shift he significantly damaged his rating
Agreed. The Hatton's had a vested interest in Butler and him just fighting whoever he wants whenever he wants is obviously not in their best interests.
Theres a bit more to this story than everyone knows I,m sure it will come out in due course
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 16:00
by taffytoon
quote]
Theres a bit more to this story than everyone knows I,m sure it will come out in due course[/quote]
Are you still working with HP?
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 17:17
by princess
taffytoon wrote:quote]
Theres a bit more to this story than everyone knows I,m sure it will come out in due course
Are you still working with HP?[/quote]
NO
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 18:16
by taffytoon
No point asking you for signed gloves for my charity then

Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 19:07
by princess
taffytoon wrote:No point asking you for signed gloves for my charity then

Laugh i,ll send you some off me if that helps i got some other bits and pieces if you want them If i can help out i will x
Re: Hattons put their feet down
Posted: 16 Dec 2009, 20:28
by taffytoon
princess wrote:taffytoon wrote:No point asking you for signed gloves for my charity then

Laugh i,ll send you some off me if that helps i got some other bits and pieces if you want them If i can help out i will x
You should be called Angel not Princess PMSL...
I will text Nick and ask him for your number (I did not save it to SIM when I changed phones!!)
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