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1. David Haye

- Heavyweight
London (23-1, 21KOs)
Haye did what he had to do to claim the WBA heavyweight crown from Nikolay Valuev. John Ruiz is next, and provided he wins that one, the Brothers Klitschko will follow.

British and Commonwealth super middleweight champion Carl Froch

2. Carl Froch

- Super-middleweight
Nottingham (26-0, 20KOs)
Froch's debut in the Super Six tournament against Andre Dirrell left both himself and fans frustrated, but a win is a win. However, he will have to be improved if he is to beat Mikkel Kessler.

WBA welterweight champion Ricky Hatton

3. Ricky Hatton

- Light-welterweight
Manchester (45-2, 32KOs)
Hatton was knocked out in two rounds by pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas, but rumour has it he could be back against Juan Manuel Marquez next summer.

Amir Khan

4. Amir Khan

- Light-welterweight
Bolton (22-1, 16KOs)
Khan demolished Dmitriy Salita in 76 seconds in the first defence of his WBA belt and now has his eyes set on the United States. First up, preparing Manny Pacquiao for Floyd Mayweather.

Kell Brook

5. Kell Brook

- Welterweight
Sheffield (20-0, 13KOs)
Originally a product of the same Sheffield gym as Naseem Hamed, Brook has been tipped for world honours. Defends his title against Michael Jennings next.

Kevin Mitchell

6. Kevin Mitchell

- Lightweight
Dagenham (30-0, 22KOs)
Mitchell gave a classy display in beating Amir Khan's conqueror Breidis Prescott and his next fight could be for the WBO belt. On the most recent evidence, he's ready.

British lightweight champion John Murray

7. John Murray

- Lightweight
Manchester (28-0, 16KOs)
Was stripped of his British title after coming in too heavy against Scott Lawton, but won it back with a fourth-round stoppage of Jon Thaxton in October. Will now be scenting bigger prizes.

British, European and Commonwealth light welterweight champion Junior Witter

8. Junior Witter

- Light-welterweight
Bradford (37-3-2, 22KOs)
Witter's hopes of fighting Amir Khan went up in smoke when he lost to Devon Alexander in trying to reclaim the WBC light-welterweight belt. Difficult to see what options he has left.

Nathan Cleverly

9. Nathan Cleverly

- Light-heavyweight
Cefn Forest (18-0, 8KOs)
Cleverly, 22, already owns the British and Commonwealth titles and will challenge for the vacant European crown against Antonio Brancalion, in Italy, on 27 January.

Rendall Munroe

10. Rendall Munroe

- Super-bantamweight
Leicester (20-1, 8KOs)
Munroe defended his European crown against Italy's Simone Maludrottu in November, and could now challenge Japan's WBC champion Toshiaki Nishioka.


Thoughts gents, BBc good or crap

Ryan Rhodes should be in it

Kell Brook is far too high.

What a joke of a list.

Horse wrote:Kell Brook is far too high.

What a joke of a list.

X2, just noticed Macklin isn't in it aswell although they are probably counting him as Irish.

darren barker should be in it

if clev and brook had their positions swappped i dont think theres too many that would complain,

what's Witter doing in the top ten? He's fought three times in the last 19 months, lost twice and beat a journeyman, there's gotta be someone else worthy of place!

I'm surprised Clinton Woods isnt in the list the BBC always put him in those rankings.

Brook is way too high, he's a class fighter but he's fought nobody and I would actually put Froch and Khan above Haye.

Why is Brook so high?

Barker and Macklin should be in there

Horse wrote:Kell Brook is far too high.

What a joke of a list.

It's still better than yours pal :)

Brook has beaten nobody, Rhodes should be in the top 5 and Cleverly and Booth?

Cleverly should be higher, Hatton should be below Khan now, and Macklin should be in it. Witter out..

Based on achievements and fights had I thin Munroe should be highter.

What are the Boxrec posters top 10?

My top 10 are :

Haye
Froch
Khan
Hatton
Mitchell
Munroe
Macklin
Murray
Cleverly
Barker

It's all opinion no doubt i've missed someone out

alexpaterson wrote:My top 10 are :

Haye
Froch
Khan
Hatton
Mitchell
Munroe
Macklin
Murray
Cleverly
Barker

It's all opinion no doubt i've missed someone out

I'd have Rhodes in there but it's a toss up whether Murray or Barker would be out....close call

my top 10 is

Carl Froch
David Haye
Amir Khan
Ricky Hatton
kevin Mitchell
Darren Barker
Matt Macklin
Nathan Clevely
Kell Brook
John Murray

i could have easily have had rhodes, booth, mccloskey or munroe

Captain Hook wrote:It's still better than yours pal :)

Not possible.

Horse wrote:

Captain Hook wrote:It's still better than yours pal :)

Not possible.

Come on Horse you cheery soul, let's have a look at your list.

Haye
Froch
Khan
Hatton
Munroe
Mitchell
Macklin
Murray
Rhodes
Moore

Hmmm, it's quite difficult this and if asked next week it'd be no doubt different (apart from top 4). I wonder how soon the likes of Gavin and some of the prospects will be in there.

macklin and barker should be involved

Pat Butcher wrote:Come on Horse you cheery soul, let's have a look at your list.

I can't post my current list until January 1st, sorry.

Horse wrote:

Pat Butcher wrote:Come on Horse you cheery soul, let's have a look at your list.

I can't post my current list until January 1st, sorry.

We all can't wait, I'll take a stab at it Horse....

1 Alan Minter
2 Shea Neary
3 Duke McKenzie
4 Lloyd Honeyghan
5 Wayne Wheeler
6 Floyd Havard
7 Lennox Lewis
8 John Conteh
9 Henry Cooper
10 Andy Till

All of them fall within Horse's 'he has been active in the last century' rule....

I'd have something like this.

1) Haye
2) Hatton
3) Froch
4) Khan
5) Mitchell
6) Macklin
7) Munroe
8) Rhodes
9) Witter
10) Murray.

Not sure the fuss on why Cleverly is too low..... for me neither Brook or Clev should be in the top ten, but I would rank Brook higher. At least he beat the "reigning" British champ. Clev's best win is still an ill prepared Oakey and a limited English champion.... yet somehow is regarded as proven European class.

Captain Hook wrote:

Horse wrote:

Pat Butcher wrote:Come on Horse you cheery soul, let's have a look at your list.

I can't post my current list until January 1st, sorry.

We all can't wait, I'll take a stab at it Horse....

1 Alan Minter
2 Shea Neary
3 Duke McKenzie
4 Lloyd Honeyghan
5 Wayne Wheeler
6 Floyd Havard
7 Lennox Lewis
8 John Conteh
9 Henry Cooper
10 Andy Till

All of them fall within Horse's 'he has been active in the last century' rule....

I cut and pasted this list from the Boxrec database for UK P4P top 10

1 Carl Froch 1073 26(20)-0(0)-0
2002 32 orthodox Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, United Kingdom
2 Ricky Hatton 821 45(32)-2(2)-0
1997 31 orthodox Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
3 David Haye 809 23(21)-1(1)-0
2002 29 orthodox Bermondsey, London, United Kingdom
4 Ryan Rhodes 713 43(29)-4(2)-0
1995 33 southpaw Sheffield, Yorkshire, United Kingdom
5 Ola Afolabi 628 14(6)-2(0)-3
2002 29 orthodox West Hills, California, United States
6 Amir Khan 610 22(16)-1(1)-0
2005 23 orthodox Bolton, Lancashire, United Kingdom
7 Matthew Macklin 567 26(18)-2(1)-0
2001 27 orthodox Birmingham, West Midlands, United Kingdom
8 John Murray 558 28(16)-0(0)-0
2003 25 orthodox Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom
9 Rendall Munroe 543 20(8)-1(0)-0
2003 29 southpaw Leicester, Leicestershire, United Kingdom
10 Nathan Cleverly 508 18(8)-0(0)-0
2005 22 orthodox Cefn Fforest, Wales, United Kingdom

Points make prizes eh!