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These fake nz h/weights keep talking ish fighting tough opposition(laughable)but they have their titles(nowone respects)all promotion buuuuuuut no real opposition, take a leaf from a real heavyweight TUA thats how you do buisness,no ish ,prop your bitch up N2shape, chauncy=ish always love u !!

Shape seems a decent guy.

He's only doing his job to talk up Welliver and try and get him a good money fight.

Tua is obviously head and shoulders above the other heavyweights in NZ. And in Australia too.

thanks Kirby, whats all this "ish" business you speak of? And MAD props to Tua hes a BEAST! He's also the best heavyweight in Australasia hands down. I have nothing but mad respect for the guy whos been my idol for a LONG long time!

Chauncy will be fighitng again next year keeping the train on its tracks! You got any fights comming up mate? Should try align yourself with Mirovic if hes still fighting! Be a good comeback fight for you!

and thanks Collins

N2 Shape wrote:thanks Kirby, whats all this "ish" business you speak of? And MAD props to Tua hes a BEAST! He's also the best heavyweight in Australasia hands down. I have nothing but mad respect for the guy whos been my idol for a LONG long time!

Chauncy will be fighitng again next year keeping the train on its tracks! You got any fights comming up mate? Should try align yourself with Mirovic if hes still fighting! Be a good comeback fight for you!

and thanks Collins

i heard through the Grape vines that Kirby is still fighting HOPPA early 2010 8)

harshfriller wrote:

N2 Shape wrote:thanks Kirby, whats all this "ish" business you speak of? And MAD props to Tua hes a BEAST! He's also the best heavyweight in Australasia hands down. I have nothing but mad respect for the guy whos been my idol for a LONG long time!

Chauncy will be fighitng again next year keeping the train on its tracks! You got any fights comming up mate? Should try align yourself with Mirovic if hes still fighting! Be a good comeback fight for you!

and thanks Collins

i heard through the Grape vines that Kirby is still fighting HOPPA early 2010 8)

Hoppa is finished and may as well pack his bags.What Collin Wilson done to him last fight just showed the quality of Heavy weights comming through.

Hopoate has at least 8 kids and knows no other way to make a living.

Hoppa will fight again for sure, but ONE more bad beating and he wont be able to justify any decent sort of purse. His loss to McCall is excusable given the gulf in talent and experience between the two. His loss to Wilson has hurt him more, he needs to bounce back with a tune up then look at Kirby a Wilson rematch or possibly even Shane Cameron which woulsd pay alright! But he needs to get some confidence back with a easy hit out first

harshfriller wrote:

N2 Shape wrote:thanks Kirby, whats all this "ish" business you speak of? And MAD props to Tua hes a BEAST! He's also the best heavyweight in Australasia hands down. I have nothing but mad respect for the guy whos been my idol for a LONG long time!

Chauncy will be fighitng again next year keeping the train on its tracks! You got any fights comming up mate? Should try align yourself with Mirovic if hes still fighting! Be a good comeback fight for you!

and thanks Collins

i heard through the Grape vines that Kirby is still fighting HOPPA early 2010 8)

Gee ,an old thread, I still agree with! congrads on chauncy's new found belt,lets see where it gets him.This confidence boost should let him take on an actual heavyweight,(from AUS).Oh and I do doubt salitua would have went the distance with bob even now!

iron rhino wrote:

harshfriller wrote:

N2 Shape wrote:thanks Kirby, whats all this "ish" business you speak of? And MAD props to Tua hes a BEAST! He's also the best heavyweight in Australasia hands down. I have nothing but mad respect for the guy whos been my idol for a LONG long time!

Chauncy will be fighitng again next year keeping the train on its tracks! You got any fights comming up mate? Should try align yourself with Mirovic if hes still fighting! Be a good comeback fight for you!

and thanks Collins

i heard through the Grape vines that Kirby is still fighting HOPPA early 2010 8)

Gee ,an old thread, I still agree with! congrads on chauncy's new found belt,lets see where it gets him.This confidence boost should let him take on an actual heavyweight,(from AUS).Oh and I do doubt salitua would have went the distance with bob even now!

So theres truth to you and Hoppa getting in the ring early next year?

Hounddawg wrote:

iron rhino wrote:

harshfriller wrote: i heard through the Grape vines that Kirby is still fighting HOPPA early 2010 8)

Gee ,an old thread, I still agree with! congrads on chauncy's new found belt,lets see where it gets him.This confidence boost should let him take on an actual heavyweight,(from AUS).Oh and I do doubt salitua would have went the distance with bob even now!

So theres truth to you and Hoppa getting in the ring early next year?

Its looking good so far! early feb townsville.The cancelled heavyweight explosion fights are all popping up on different cards with different promoters,pity that show didn't go ahead!

Salitua? is this a new fighter we havent heard about yet?

And the new belt has earned a WBO #14 World Ranking so far, not a bad return at this stage!

Get some wins under your belt and we'll fly you over to NZ mate, although given your supreme confidence you'd fight for Free right to just get ahold of that belt? And beat Chauncy as you say you'll do?

That ABC pacific whatever belt I couldn't care for,nor fighting chauncy,I refuse to give him the justification of a challenge,simply because he is no challenge!Belt or no belt,fake titles don't make champions,watching me loose is still better than watching chauncy win!

Watching Chauncy fight is as exciting as kicking your toe as apposed to watching the IRON RHINO!

iron rhino wrote:That ABC pacific whatever belt I couldn't care for,nor fighting chauncy,I refuse to give him the justification of a challenge,simply because he is no challenge!Belt or no belt,fake titles don't make champions,watching me loose is still better than watching chauncy win!

You're not in the Asia Pacific rankings rhino, so you couldn't fight for the title anyways dude!
Maybe get a few more wins and you can crack the WBO AsPac ranks
I know, you don't want the title, but it is just as real as the OPBF title, so wouldn't talk to much crap about it.

Also, with the headline, Tua is the shit. Hope he brings the title home to NZ!

OK rhino, obviously you don't wanna fight, so good luck with your career and hope you get a good payday soon before it's all over. Hope you get the fight with that guy who got KOed on the Tua- Cameron undercard.

Hammer v Rhino 8)

Just let them hate each other a bit more have a few more fights each so we can all watch a cracker!

Popcorn anyone?

IMO the 2 major regional belts are the OPBF and PABA titles you get a guaranteed ranking with the WBC and WBA and those who have held these belts have gone on to be world champs.

The WBO Asia-Pacific, WBO Oriental, IBF Pan-Pacific all get you Top 15 Rankings also.

harshfriller wrote:Hammer v Rhino 8)

N2 Shape wrote:The WBO Asia-Pacific, WBO Oriental, IBF Pan-Pacific all get you Top 15 Rankings also.

Seriously Always, or only with certain exceptions, because i've seen some awful fighters win those titles, and they seem to pop everywhere.

The OPBF and PABA have always been recognised as the stepping stone for a title shot well at least thats what i thought, maybe not so much in the Heavy to suppermiddle division but certainly from middle down.

Shane Cameron held onto the WBO Asia-Pacific and WBO Oriental pretty tightly as they gave him his world rankings. Tua won them and got his top ranking within the WBO after a 2 year layoff. The main belts are there as stepping stones into the rankings. Some pretty average fighters have won them your right, but they soon get found out when trying to compete at that level or else they simply cannot afford to defend there title are drop the belt which drops them out the rankings as well. I mean Dion McNabney won the PABA Middleweight Title in Vanuatu over Iau Kamsak................pretty sure he wouldnt have been placed instantly in line for a WORLD title shot!

N2 Shape wrote:Shane Cameron held onto the WBO Asia-Pacific and WBO Oriental pretty tightly as they gave him his world rankings. Tua won them and got his top ranking within the WBO after a 2 year layoff. The main belts are there as stepping stones into the rankings. Some pretty average fighters have won them your right, but they soon get found out when trying to compete at that level or else they simply cannot afford to defend there title are drop the belt which drops them out the rankings as well. I mean Dion McNabney won the PABA Middleweight Title in Vanuatu over Iau Kamsak................pretty sure he wouldnt have been placed instantly in line for a WORLD title shot!

agreed, but it was vacant. Just saying i had no idea that the afore mentioned titles had any weight in rankings other than a trophy belt.

Tua is definitely top 15 easily and it wouldn't matter if he fought for the antarctic title, Cameron i can understand at the time.

So you think the belts got them the ranking or the opponents they fought?

Its the belts that get the rankings over the opponents. End of the day its a money making system for the organisations like the WBO, IBF, WBC, WBA etc it costs to put on those title fights and in return they'll give you a world ranking. Lets face it belts are nice and to win won a fighter can take pride in it but after a while the promoters, fighters, managers etc are going to get fed up with shelling out money for them if theres no bigger prize at the end of the tunnell that prize is a world ranking! Therefore we are willing to pay the money to get there!

yep. It's a user pays system.... be it right or wrong.