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Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 17:09
by Brutu
Some 37 years after the bout there still remains some controversary.
Here is part One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jd9Xj2tzVI
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 19:58
by Brutu
Who are the two chaps that Sir Henry is knocking out toward the beginning?
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 25 Dec 2009, 23:41
by dempseyfire
Never seen the full fight, would like to see it on Youtube and score it myself.
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 05:33
by Woller
Joe Erskine and a very young Cassius Clay.
Woller
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 22:53
by Brutu
Who does Bugner think he is kiddin?
He obviously moved to Los Angeles California for the same reasons most of the British rockers did in the early 1970's.
Less taxes and to be knee deep in babes are two reasons.
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 29 Dec 2009, 12:41
by harrygreb
two excellent reasons
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 30 Dec 2009, 20:43
by Brutu
Notice the body language on the couch.
Henry Cooper sits like a real man while Bugner sits like a nancy boy.
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 18:55
by dempseyfire
Full fight is finally on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzVpyiWn ... 5E&index=0
A good solid fight between youth and size vs experience and power. Not a thrilling affair but a decent tussle.
Scored it myself and gave it to Bugner by a point 8-7. Several very close rounds so I understand people who thought Cooper won it.
I had Bugner with a commanding 6-3 lead after 9 rounds, outworking the older Henry with his jab while Cooper fought a energy-preserving, cagey fight that veterans often do. But then Bugner lost 4 of the next 5 rounds to tie it up after 14. The 15th was a sloppy affair but I think Bugner edged it with the cleaner punches landed. The commentary was of course biased for Cooper which I think influenced people's perceptions of it being a robbery (like Patterson-Ellis), plus the fact that Cooper landed more power punches (but boxing is scored by rounds, not who in total landed the more eye-catching shots). But very close fight, could've gone either way.
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 21:12
by Robinson
I shall score this myself. I recall watching it and thinking though
it was close I had it for Bugner.
Brutu,
Bugner is not a 'nancy boy' more like an excitable, energetic
guy, I do not get a nancy boy impression...though I am not
that familiar with such men ;)
Cooper seems bitter, but is always much more reserved than
the young upstart Bugner.
It is an ashame that any dislike should exist so many years
hence. Both guys were top men of the game and did a lot
for British boxing.
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 18:06
by Brutu
That footage is almost pristine considering how old it is.
Looks like it came straight out a film/video vault archive.
Too bad its running at a funny speed on youtube.
Re: Joe Bugner vrs Henry Cooper(1971)revisited
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 18:09
by Brutu
I didnt say he was I said "he sat like a".
Anyway Cooper was from London(or Kent anway).
You can almost hear the bells of St.Marleybone's in his voice.
Bugner was from Cambridgeshire.
Nuff said.