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I've heard that former WBO Featherweight Champion Scott Harrison is back in light training. I think he can be World Champ again but who here agrees with me?

Yes, at 25 and a late starter to the game his best years are head of him.

I hope he tries a few Commonwealth level fights at FEATHERWEIGHT to see what he strength is like. I'm not sure he could win the world title at Superfeatherweight, cause his strength is his strength.

With Morales moving up, the Bordie/Chi winner is certainly a fight Harrison can win and maybe (finally) the big fights will catch up with Medina and he could be taken.

Will he ever beat Marquez and Barrera at one stage I thought he's got a chance, now I think No way.

Same applies for most of the champions at Superfeatherweight - Chavez impressed me last time.

It's still hard to say how far Harrison will go in the future.

We still have to allow for the possibility that the Medina fight could just have been an awful off-night and the Harrison who had us all talking of standing a chance with the very elite is still there.

That's the funny thing about boxing when compared to other sports. Sampras loses to some Austrian journeyman one week, the next he can win Wimbledon! Same with football, teams can have shocking off days, but obviously with boxing when you only fight 2/3 times a year then your last performance counts for so much more.

I don't see much reason for Scott to drop back down a level, he's still up there in world class, just get back in the mix ASAP.

I don't doubt for a moment that Harrison can regain a version of the world title. The Medina fight was, I think, a one-off. Harrison apparently was violently sick on two occasions the night before the fight and in the ring he said he felt that he had nothing in the tank.

He's an immensely strong pressure fighter. McCullough said he was the strongest fighter he has ever faced and on any other night Medina would have been stopped.

Harrison-Barrera would be a great match up. Neither fighter likes to box on the back foot and it would be all action from start to finish. Harrison winning is by no means out of the question but he needs to add to his repertoire as he is rather one-dimensional and predictable...despite simpleton Frank Maloney insisting he is the best boxer Scotland has produced.

He's so big at the weight I think he should move to Jr Light - Freitas is lining up a WBO Lightweight shot, so he could even get a vacant shot.

As an ex WBO champ I think they'd rank him fairly high if he moved up.
I wouldn't put him in with Medina again though - a nightmare style for him it would seem..Onwards and upwards.

'BUMP' now the rematch has been confirmed.

The good news is that Harrison will now fight Medina in a rematch

The better news is that he will win

McCoy has no doubt whatsoever

Yes he can because allegedly is his promoter, and he can make him fight a bum for the title. Other than that, I can't see him becoming a champion again. This is due to his inability to adapt to fighters who don't stand there in front of him.

Southpaw Stylist is so correct

I’m so sorry to disappoint U Goz, :(

But Medina is only 2nd level.
Harrison has obviously met his peter principle. 8)
U can’t get there on strength alone.

Blue wrote:Southpaw Stylist is so correct

I’m so sorry to disappoint U Goz, :(

But Medina is only 2nd level.
Harrison has obviously met his peter principle. 8)
U can’t get there on strength alone.

We'll see. Nobody was talking like this about Scott Harrison before the Medina fight, my point was that sportsmen (and women) have off nights, time will tell if this was the case. In fact we'll tell very soon, in about 6 weeks or so.

Nothing dissapointing about it at all for me, couldn't really care less other than wanting to see Harrison do well for British boxing but I admire Medina and all the other top Feathweights.

I'm not saying for sure one way or the other, I'm just saying boxing fans can be a bit quick to write people off.

"my point was that sportsmen (and women) have off nights,"

At that level of boxing, off nights shouldn't happen. Both fighters, after training for so long and mentally preparing, should be able to give their all. I believe Scott Harrison was in the right condition that night he just got outboxed to nonsense by a BETTER boxer who has obviously been in at a higher level.

[quote="Southpaw Stylist]
At that level of boxing, off nights shouldn't happen. [/quote]

But of course they do - probably every fighter you can think of has had an off night at some time or another, however fantastic the training has gone.

It might be that Medina has Scott's number, or maybe the Scot will make the adjustments needed and win the rematch in style - we'll know soon enough..

Medina will beat him again

Southpaw Stylist wrote: At that level of boxing, off nights shouldn't happen.

But they do. How else can you explain Pete Sampras (for example) barely being able to get a first serve in when he's been training for a particular grand slam for months? Or countless other boxers who just haven't looked themselves on a given night.

Competing at that level the margins between success and failure are fine, a slight disruption to training, illness, anything can thrown you off kilter.

Anyway, we'll see...

This is a must win fight for Scott Harrison. His reputation is really on the line here. Althought he doesn't have to change that much in order to beat Medina, the manner in which he boxed in the first fight suggests to me that he'll struggle again.

Harrison was as clueless in round 1 as he was in round 12 about how to deal with the Mexican. Surely his corner would have been giving him instructions about how to turn the tables yet Scott seemed unable to stem the tide. I hope I'm wrong but providing the judges behave themselves I can see Medina taking a close decision again. Defeat would be disastrous for Harrison considering Sport Network's ambitious plans for him.

Snatchy wrote:This is a must win fight for Scott Harrison. His reputation is really on the line here. Althought he doesn't have to change that much in order to beat Medina, the manner in which he boxed in the first fight suggests to me that he'll struggle again.

Harrison was as clueless in round 1 as he was in round 12 about how to deal with the Mexican. Surely his corner would have been giving him instructions about how to turn the tables yet Scott seemed unable to stem the tide. I hope I'm wrong but providing the judges behave themselves I can see Medina taking a close decision again. Defeat would be disastrous for Harrison considering Sport Network's ambitious plans for him.

Agreed. Also good point about the judges, given the scoring of the first fight I have a horrible feeling that Harrison might not need to improve too much to regain his title. Hope I'm wrong.

BUMP 8)

stujones wrote:
With Morales moving up, the Bordie/Chi winner is certainly a fight Harrison can win and maybe (finally) the big fights will catch up with Medina and he could be taken.

No way, he may not get the same level of exposure but Brodie is streets ahead of Harrison (as is Chi.)

Well, we agree to disagree. Its an intruiging match and a tough one to call. I find it hard to agree with your statement that Brodie and Chi are both streets better than Harrison.

Scott Harrison has held victories at world class at Featherweight (twice) beat two guys ranked higher than Inchin Chi according to Boxing Monthly (at the time).

Brodie has still yet to score a win at world class at 9stone, yes he's good no doubt - but don't write of Harrison beating Brodie (even if he loses on Saturday).

Once and for all, Manuel Medina is one exceptional fighter, you don't get to be called a five time geniune world champion for nothing.

All I said is that I give Harrison a chance against Brodie, I don't know what Mikie has done to jusify him being considered streets ahead of Harrison.

well, maybe streets ahead was a bad choice of phrase. Let's say notably better instead.
Harrison's two best wins are over McCullough and Chacon no doubt and it should be remembered that McCullough is a bantam coming off rather a long layoff without many tuneups and Chacon (not intending to discredit Harrison's win, just saying what I saw) was poor in their fight from the opening bell. I remember him stating it would be an easy fight for him so it's reasonable to assume he underestimated Harrison.
I couldn't really call Harrison world class myself, fringe worldclass maybe. Stands straight up, throws arm punches, the only thing about him that is more than average imo is his build.
I can't see him beating either Brodie or Chi myself; Brodie is proven world class, Harrison is not, Chi is also though we've only seen him outside Asia a couple of times they were both tough, close fights against world classers.
I agree with you that Medina is exceptional, but it must be remembered that he got the shit kicked out of him by Marquez just five months before, then along he comes and makes Harrison look like a befuddled schoolboy, who incidentally I do not for a second believe was ill in any way shape or form, leading up to the fight he was "in the best shape of his life", then as soon as he sat at ringside he had flu...how convenient.

Me neither to be honest, Harrison has beaten Tracy Harris Patterson, McCulloch, Chacon, and Tom Johnson, even though some of them were past their prime, that is still a good resume, and actually better than anyone I can see on Brodie's ledger.

so how you can say Brodie is 'streets ahead' is beyond me, it's arguable that Brodie is a better all around fighter, but he's not beaten anyone to prove it really. Hell he amost got his clock cleaned by Pastor Maurin. I would give Harrison a pretty good chance against Chi.

mrbassie wrote:well, maybe streets ahead was a bad choice of phrase. Let's say notably better instead.
Harrison's two best wins are over McCullough and Chacon no doubt and it should be remembered that McCullough is a bantam coming off rather a long layoff without many tuneups and Chacon (not intending to discredit Harrison's win, just saying what I saw) was poor in their fight from the opening bell. I remember him stating it would be an easy fight for him so it's reasonable to assume he underestimated Harrison.
I couldn't really call Harrison world class myself, fringe worldclass maybe. Stands straight up, throws arm punches, the only thing about him that is more than average imo is his build.
I can't see him beating either Brodie or Chi myself; Brodie is proven world class, Harrison is not, Chi is also though we've only seen him outside Asia a couple of times they were both tough, close fights against world classers.
I agree with you that Medina is exceptional, but it must be remembered that he got the shit kicked out of him by Marquez just five months before, then along he comes and makes Harrison look like a befuddled schoolboy, who incidentally I do not for a second believe was ill in any way shape or form, leading up to the fight he was "in the best shape of his life", then as soon as he sat at ringside he had flu...how convenient.

Fair play you do make some nice points. However, just where has Brodie proven himself more so than Scott. You say that Chacon took him lightly, no way Scott made a guy who beat Kovacs look ordinary. Why should Chacon have taken Harrison lightly. I mean look at all those excellent past champions Harrison beat (as mentioned by James - although you forgot Steve Robinson). Chacon would have been a fool to have taken Harrison lightly.

Yes, Medina lost heavily to Jaun Manuel Marquez no doubt. But, whilst Medina is still expectional (as his performance against Johnny Tapia showed) words cannot describe just how good Marquez is. He would do that to most featherweights (and yes I include Harrison, Brodie, and Barrera in that list now).

I'm not discrediting Michael Brodie's display against Inchin Chi, however the only fight he can judge Chi on is his brave effort against Morales. However, how poor was Morales that night. He was going through a terrible run of form, remember most experts believe he lost his previous fight to Guty Espedas - look what he did to Guty last time. I'm, sure that the Morales who is now campaigning at Super Feather would dispatch Chi with far more easy next time.

I think both Harrison and Brodie are world class fighters, Harrison has shown it with victories over world class fighters, Brodie with excellent displays against Jorrin and Chi. However, I still can't understand how you can call Harrison fringe world class but not Brodie.

I honestly believe that this "Harrison bashing" is because people EXPECTED him to beat Boxing Monthly's #6 ranked featherweight. He failed to deliver big style. However, because Chi (who was ranked somewhere between #10 and #15 I would say by BM) was considered give Michael Brodie all kinds of problems, people were less certain about this one. So, Michael did alot more that what some people expected. Hence why people are impressed with Brodie more so than Harrison.

However, the fact that people expected Harrison to beat up Medina shows alot about his ability - and we must not forget that when it comes to a Harrison vs Brodie match up.

"Hell he amost got his clock cleaned by Pastor Maurin"
Maurin is better than anyone Harrison has faced. Harrison doesn't exactly have an iron chin himself, just ask Miguel Mathews (mind you Mathews does have an impressive resume ) Louis Fuentes is probably as good as anyone Harrison has faced, which I predict will be proved in time, he was good.

Robinson was a good win on paper, but he lost his previous four, and since lost to Steve Conway of all people.
Patterson, again on paper was a decent win but his recent record going into that fight was patchy at best, I don't know where the hell you get that Harrison's record is better than Brodies neither of them is exactly star studded, I'd give Brodie the edge on his recent opponents alone. Harrison has beaten lot's of stiffs, two faded names and a long layed off Wayne McCullough.
Sorry guys, I just never bought the hype, and Medina's gonna embarrass him again.

mrbassie wrote:"Hell he amost got his clock cleaned by Pastor Maurin"
Maurin is better than anyone Harrison has faced. Harrison doesn't exactly have an iron chin himself, just ask Miguel Mathews (mind you Mathews does have an impressive resume ) Louis Fuentes is probably as good as anyone Harrison has faced, which I predict will be proved in time, he was good.

Robinson was a good win on paper, but he lost his previous four, and since lost to Steve Conway of all people.
Patterson, again on paper was a decent win but his recent record going into that fight was patchy at best, I don't know where the hell you get that Harrison's record is better than Brodies neither of them is exactly star studded, I'd give Brodie the edge on his recent opponents alone. Harrison has beaten lot's of stiffs, two faded names and a long layed off Wayne McCullough.
Sorry guys, I just never bought the hype, and Medina's gonna embarrass him again.

Bennie should ban you for stupid comments like that!

Honestly, this is one of the daftest posts McCoy has ever read

Get me banned then if you want.
What did I say that was daft or remotely funny? I wonder if someone called McCoy can be impartial about this particular subject.
Come on let's hear it, wha's so wonderful that I should be impressed by Harrison?
What's with referring to yourself in the third person btw?