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British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 20:02
by Horse
1. (1.) David Haye
2. (2.) Ricky Hatton
3. (3.) Carl Froch
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) Rendall Munroe
6. (10.) Matthew Macklin
7. (6.) Clinton Woods
8. (7.) Junior Witter
9. (8.) Bernard Dunne (Irish)
10. (9.) Ryan Rhodes
11. (11.) Nicky Cook
12. (12.) John Murray
13. (13.) Nathan Cleverly
14. (21.) Kevin Mitchell
15. (14.) Jamie Moore
16. (15.) Kell Brook
17. (16.) Ian Napa
18. (17.) Darren Barker
19. (18.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
20. (19.) Martin Lindsay (Irish)
21. (NE.) Ola Afolabi
22. (28.) John Simpson
23. (22.) Sam Sexton
24. (23.) Anthony Small
25. (24.) Jason Booth
26. (25.) Ajose Olusegan
27. (NE.) Lee Haskins
28. (26.) Andy Lee (Irish)
29. (27.) Enzo Maccarinelli
30. (29.) John Duddy (Irish)
Out - (20.) Alex Arthur
Out - (30.) Martin Rogan (Irish)
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 20:02
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 20:22
by 15829
surprised to see afalobi their wouldn't have munroe ahead of mitchell cleverly and brook also froch should be ahead of hatton
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 21:07
by Rixxy
i wouldnt of put nicky cook so high, especially above the likes of cleverly, mitchell and barker. and i think froch should be above hatton too.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 21:24
by brian13
Munroe is no way near #5 and Clinton Woods has retired
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 31 Dec 2009, 22:08
by Rixxy
all the fighters have a period of inactivity, so although he has retired, he is still there for a bit.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 04:30
by Libertine
I'd rank Darren Barker a bit higher, Kell Brook too.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 07:16
by Grays_Dan
Nicky Cook above Kevin Mitchell? Behave
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 07:54
by DG.
Hatton above Froch?
Sort that out!

Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 08:04
by slapbangwhallop
Murnoe and Cook too high.
McCloskey too low.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 08:32
by Horse
diggler wrote:surprised to see afalobi their
Why are you surprised? Too High? Too Low?
diggler wrote:wouldn't have munroe ahead of mitchell cleverly and brook also froch should be ahead of hatton
Munroe has been fighting at a significantly higher level than Mitchell, Cleverly and Brook for about two years, so I think he belongs above those fighters for now. Neither Mitchell, Cleverly or Brook have reached European level yet.
I didn't feel that Froch's last win, over Dirrell, was enough to put him above Hatton at that time. If Froch can beat Kessler in April then he will go above Hatton.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 08:39
by 15829
was surprised after all the fuss about you not thinking he was english, if froch wins kessler he should be number 1 and munroe is no where near the 5th best boxer in britan
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 09:16
by Horse
Rixxy wrote:i wouldnt of put nicky cook so high, especially above the likes of cleverly, mitchell and barker.
Nicky Cook will probably fall below those fighters after their next fights.
Cook was the WBO champion before his last fight, so I have given him the benefit of the doubt, so far. However, he has been inactive for almost ten months and lost his last fight, so he will probably fall fairly quickly down the list now, unless he makes a comeback against decent opposition.
Rixxy wrote:and i think froch should be above hatton too.
Froch is on better form, so maybe he should be higher than Hatton.
After Froch's next win, or Hatton's next loss, then I can make a change to that situation.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 14:12
by Horse
brian13 wrote:Munroe is no way near #5 and Clinton Woods has retired
Who has done more than Munroe in recent years? Who should go above him?
Woods has only been inactive four and a bit months, so I therefore consider him an active fighter.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 14:48
by Chris W 1982
Is Enzo worthy of inclusion?
Sam Sexton deserves a mention in there as well.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 14:59
by slapbangwhallop
The quiet man 2004 wrote:Is Enzo worthy of inclusion?
Sam Sexton deserves a mention in there as well.
have you seen Enzo's recent bouts?
Sexton is in at number 23
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 15:11
by Chris W 1982
sligobhoy67 wrote:The quiet man 2004 wrote:Is Enzo worthy of inclusion?
Sam Sexton deserves a mention in there as well.
have you seen Enzo's recent bouts?
Sexton is in at number 23
My mistake with Sexton.
I mean Enzo shouldnt be in there at all.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 15:35
by Horse
Libertine wrote:I'd rank Darren Barker a bit higher, Kell Brook too.
I think Barker and Brook are currently less proven than everyone ranked above them.
Both fighters have looked like they can be World/European title contenders, but neither have fought opposition above domestic/area level.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 01 Jan 2010, 16:23
by whiskey
I think Jason Booth should be higher.
Former British & commonwealth flyweight champion.
IBO super flyweight champion
current British & commonwealth bantam champion
Yet languishes behind wbogus challengers and prospects.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 12:11
by GazMan85
Booth should be higher IMO.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 13:00
by Horse
Grays_Dan wrote:Nicky Cook above Kevin Mitchell? Behave
Mitchell had not been very active before his win over Prescott, which meant he had fallen to 21st place in the rankings.
I did not feel a win over Prescott warranted a 10 place climb in the rankings to overtake Cook.
If Mitchell wins his next fight then he will probably overtake Cook.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 02 Jan 2010, 13:09
by Horse
DG. wrote:Hatton above Froch?
Sort that out!

If Froch can maintain his winning run at World level, by beating Kessler, then he will go above Hatton.
Froch has struggled, and almost lost twice, against his World class opponents. So, I don't think there is anything wrong with Hatton still being above him in the P4P rankings.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 03 Jan 2010, 18:48
by Horse
sligobhoy67 wrote:Murnoe and Cook too high.
Who should be above Munroe? Macklin, Rhodes and McCloskey are fellow European champions, but none of them have held the belt for long and I think Munroe has the better wins recently.
Former World Champions Witter and Woods are coming to the end of their careers, Dunne has just been destroyed, and unbeaten prospects Murray, Cleverly, Mitchell, Brook and Barker have not been fighting opponents as good as Munroe's opposition.
Cook will start to fall down the rankings as the fighters in the 12-20 area of the rankings pick up wins. However, I don't think his current ranking is unjust, as he was the WBO champion less than 12 months ago.
sligobhoy67 wrote:McCloskey too low.
McCloskey would be higher if his recent opposition had been better. Wins over Harrison and Rasilla in the last 12 months is not really deserving of a much higher ranking.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 03 Jan 2010, 19:25
by stujones
I think as a EBU champion, McCloskey should be higher. Passed every test so far, including some world ranked fighters.
Re: British Top 30 P4P January 2010
Posted: 03 Jan 2010, 19:31
by Des1
Horse wrote:Munroe has been fighting at a significantly higher level than Mitchell, Cleverly and Brook for about two years, so I think he belongs above those fighters for now. Neither Mitchell, Cleverly or Brook have reached European level yet.
Are you serious

Mitchell has not reached European level yet?? Are we talking about the same man who has just clearly out boxed Prescott who holds a KO 1 win over Khan, the WBA 'World' Champion in a World title eliminator. And so what that Cook is a former WBO Champion? The calibure of opponent he beat closely on points in Arthur is not above Prescott. How you can have Cook above Mitchell at this point of their careers is laughable.