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English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:03
by Lightsoot
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:10
by Horse
I don't see the benefit.
I haven't noticed that referees score fights any worse on average than three ringside judges.
Are people sure this will make things any better?
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:19
by Chambers2
Horse wrote:I don't see the benefit.
I haven't noticed that referees score fights any worse on average than three ringside judges.
Are people sure this will make things any better?
2 out of the 3 judges would have to score it incorrectly to get the wrong result rather than 1 out of 1. The judges don't have to worry about reffing the fight either
Definately about time
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:22
by Chambers2
If the BBBC can change that stupid cuts ruke that they insist on using then I'll have feck all to moan about
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:23
by leforge
Good decision.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:33
by dondada
Chambers2 wrote:If the BBBC can change that stupid cuts ruke that they insist on using then I'll have feck all to moan about
Like the rest of us, you'll think of something

Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:41
by Horse
Chambers2 wrote:2 out of the 3 judges would have to score it incorrectly to get the wrong result rather than 1 out of 1. The judges don't have to worry about reffing the fight either
Would there have been as much outrage if Fury vs McDermott had 3 judges, instead of only the referee judging, and 2 out of the 3 judges had scored the fight to Fury by a wide margin?
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 08:49
by Spud
A minor point - is there anyway the judge sitting nearest to the TV commentary could be moved - whilst that would prove unpopular for the VIP's on the TV facing side of the ring - does anyone else here think there is a danger of the judge being influenced in an innocent way by the TV commentators?
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 09:50
by chris s
Terrible news for promoters, especially those with non-TV shows. It will only add to costs for them paying for extra officials.
There are plenty of eliminator and English title fights taking place on non-televised shows and this will put promoters off staging them and who can blame them.
At least it might see the re-birth of area title fights which have become almost extinct in some regions.
It is now only a matter of time before every fight in this country is decided by judges.
Terry O'Connor's honest mistake will prove costly for a lot of people.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 14:43
by 15829
am all for it

Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 15:04
by stujones
Spud wrote:A minor point - is there anyway the judge sitting nearest to the TV commentary could be moved - whilst that would prove unpopular for the VIP's on the TV facing side of the ring - does anyone else here think there is a danger of the judge being influenced in an innocent way by the TV commentators?
Thought something similar - although I know it would be impossible and have its flaws - but I don't like how the judges are swayed by the crowd.
Thats more prevelant and more of a concern IMO.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 15:12
by Rixxy
im all for it. About time
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 15:26
by alexpaterson
Yes good decision

Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 15:32
by hitman_hatton1
all they need to do now is change that archaic cuts rule we still have.

Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 15:38
by alexpaterson
hitman_hatton1 wrote:all they need to do now is change that archaic cuts rule we still have.

Ye that is a terrible rule and needs to be changed
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:14
by whicker
chris s wrote:
There are plenty of eliminator and English title fights taking place on non-televised shows and this will put promoters off staging them and who can blame them.
Are they? I've notice very few indeed.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:19
by liamlion
Horse wrote:I don't see the benefit.
I haven't noticed that referees score fights any worse on average than three ringside judges.
Are people sure this will make things any better?
Are you joking pal?? Did you see Fury v McDermott and the subsequent decision. Its a safety measure against one idiot watching and scoring a fight through his back-side. Its not bullet prrof but its very much over-due.
Referees simply should not be judging a fight
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:25
by whicker
liamlion wrote:
Referees simply should not be judging a fight
I agree, although on Small Hall shows, I think its a necessity.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:57
by maninthemiddle
Whilst costs is often thrown up as a negative aspect of using 3 judges it will only add about £300 in fees and travelling expenses for 3 judges. Based on the whole cost of the promotion this change will lead to a very small percentage rise in a promoters costs.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 17:05
by whicker
maninthemiddle wrote:Whilst costs is often thrown up as a negative aspect of using 3 judges it will only add about £300 in fees and travelling expenses for 3 judges. .
Not even that on big shows, of course, because there are usually at least 3 referees as part of the event anyway. I'm sure they could "double up" as judges.
Even if a person is paid "per contest" they officiate, it still saves on travel expenses and the like.
However, on a small hall show £300 may well be the only profilt margin.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 18:38
by Horse
liamlion wrote:Are you joking pal?? Did you see Fury v McDermott and the subsequent decision. Its a safety measure against one idiot watching and scoring a fight through his back-side. Its not bullet prrof but its very much over-due.
Referees simply should not be judging a fight
That was just one fight and the only real problem was with the wide scoring in favour of Fury, not Fury winning.
I don't think things will be any better because of this change.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 19:02
by whicker
I think they should perhaps even go furhter, and have 5 judges for world title fights.
Other than practical issues, (where would the sit etc) the more judges would, in theory, be better.
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 19:20
by Adamj1987
i like it
whicker wrote:I think they should perhaps even go furhter, and have 5 judges for world title fights.
Other than practical issues, (where would the sit etc) the more judges would, in theory, be better.
1 on each side thats just 1 more seat and 1 watching TV
Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 19:21
by DG.
At last!!!!

Re: English title fghts & British title eliminators to be judged
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 19:23
by Adamj1987
DG. wrote:At last!!!!

i recon you'll be banned soon. i dont need to flag the post