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Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 18:20
by crusader
Here's more of the statement from fightnews

http://www.fightnews.com/?p=34963
Ndou said:

I must have hit that donkey harder than I thought. I see he is starting to show signs of dementia as well at such a young age. Now he is talking about how he is offering me a chance to redeem and test myself against him. Who the f*** is he? He seems to forget he is just a donkey like I said before who is living off his brother’s name. Somebody needs to remind this fool that I am the champion here. In fact a two-time world champ in two weight classes. And what has he achieved so far? So who needs who? He needs me more than I need him. In fact I don’t know what crap he is talking about because I was the first one to offer him a rematch right after our last fight and he was never keen to take it.

In regards to the punch stats I already made, it’s clear that I did not dispute that he might have thrown more punches than me but they were not landing on the target. They were either landing on my arms and gloves whereas my punches were more effective or landing on the target. And I believe that’s how fights are won. You don’t win fights by just charging forward like a footballer.

In regards to the English commentators scoring the fight in his favor, I already commented that I did not know what fight they were watching. It’s ok to be a little bias but not the way these commentators conducted themselves. Who did they think they were fooling? I mean people aren’t that dumb. They can clearly see who was winning the fight and the B.S. commentary is not gonna persuade them to think otherwise. In fact I was more disappointed with Johnny Nelson. For a former world champion and someone I always respected I have lost all respect for him. I can’t believe the shit he was saying. What fight was he watching? Or did he get punched-up so bad during his career he has lost sight and all he could now see was ‘white’. He couldn’t see the black dude that was beating up on the white dude. Maybe he now suffers from color blindness. For the little money he is getting paid to do commentary you would think he would tell things the way they are. But here is a former world champion who is selling his soul for next to nothing. He needs to realize that people are watching, listening and making their judgments. Whatever he says is a reflection to his personality and knowledge of boxing. Somebody needs to tell him that he just made a fool of himself with his bias commentary. Even my 11-year old daughter was shocked with his commentary.

Look, apart from all that, everybody knows that I went into that fight with an injury and lack of sparring. About five weeks into the fight I suffered a really nasty cut on my eyebrow which required about 5 stitches. I chose not to pull out of the fight but I had to stop sparring so as to give the cut a chance to heal. I’m not in the habit of pulling out of fights. And of course, the lack of sparring did affect my timing and sharpness but still I won that fight clearly. In fact anyone will tell you that to get a draw in England means you won the fight clearly. I have even seen foreign fighters in the past knock English fighters out and still lose the fight by disqualification or some B.S. they can come up with. And that’s why I made it clear that I won’t be going back to England for a rematch. I’m still open for a rematch but that donkey has to come to South Africa or Australia this time and get knocked the hell out. In the last fight I was very cautious because I didn’t want my cut to reopen and cost me my title but this time around it will be a different story and I can rest assure anybody that I will stop this donkey.

And what does he need a warm-up fight for? He wants a rematch then lets do it right away, otherwise I’m not gonna sit back and wait on him. I got other fights I could look at. And about him fighting Mayweather, he must be a fool to believe that Mayweather will truly fight him and anyone would buy that fight. It will be the biggest step back in Mayweather’s career. The donkey’s name was just used as some sort of negotiating tool during the Pacquaio negotiations. In fact I would make a better opponent for Mayweather than him. I have better credentials than that donkey.

Personally I felt as if the fight could have gone either way, but I did have Ndou winning by a point. The commentary from Nelson and the reaction from Hatton were atrocious. Don't know if Ndou really had to bring skin color into the equation, but I agree with most of what he had to say.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 18:34
by Deno1986
I rarely ever agree with Nelson's scoring and reviews of fights.

I had Hatton winning that fight 115-114 if I remember correctly but as Crusader said it could have gone either way and a draw on the night was probably a fair result.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 18:36
by Adamj1987
Deno1986 wrote:I rarely ever agree with Nelson's scoring and reviews of fights.

I had Hatton winning that fight 115-114 if I remember correctly but as Crusader said it could have gone either way and a draw on the night was probably a fair result.
nelson is terrible he ruins fights for me

i had n'dou 115-114

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 01:53
by oliverfennell
Does Ndou realise Nelson is black?

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 03:29
by DG.
oliverfennell wrote:Does Ndou realise Nelson is black?
Of course he does!!

:OhYes:

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 04:30
by twenty six
Attention seeking crap from N'Dou.
And to bring racism in well .................
Look if we all took a back step, listed each and every time ANY commentator on boxing got it wrong, we'd be here for weeks.
Is Nelson any worse than Jim Watt ? Nicky Piper ?
If you don't like the commentary turn the volume down.
In fact it's a good exercise.
Do your own notes and scoring with the volume off, and see how you compare to the actual outcome.
It's not as easy as most think.
On another point, how many controversial commentators, telling it like it is, have survived in the media for too long ?
Everyone has a paymaster.
Everyone has a Programme Director screaming in their left ear.
What's with bringing this out of the closet for anyway ?
Attention seeking crap - nothing to do with Hatton announcing he's carrying on then.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 12:13
by dsimpson
You're not always going to agree with people.

However, I think Nelson is excellent.

I always enjoy watching his comment and long may it continue.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 13:11
by Autobarn
i agree that the p4p list is full of aged names and used up fighters - too many, in fact.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 13:23
by Pat Butcher
Ha ha, Ndou really said "poop" in his interview/statement :lol:

What are the chances of a rematch?? Wouldn't mind seeing that.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 13:41
by oliverfennell
DG. wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:Does Ndou realise Nelson is black?
Of course he does!!

:OhYes:
Why the fok is he banging on about Nelson siding with the white geezer then?

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 13:42
by Rixxy
im not nelsons biggest fan, but didnt see the need for him to bring the race card into it. The fight really could of gone either way. the way hatton reacted though was idiotic.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 13:43
by alexpaterson
I had it scored to N'Dou 115-113, Nelson's scorecard was very poor Hatton was buiser but N'Dou was landing the cleaner more effective shot.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 16:04
by hitman_hatton1
2 time world champion in 2 weight classes. :oops:

just about sums up the poor state of the title picture that a ham and egger like n'dou can pick up titles.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 16:38
by DG.
oliverfennell wrote:
DG. wrote:
oliverfennell wrote:Does Ndou realise Nelson is black?
Of course he does!!

:OhYes:
Why the fok is he banging on about Nelson siding with the white geezer then?
He said.

'I can’t believe the poop he was saying. What fight was he watching? Or did he get punched-up so bad during his career he has lost sight and all he could now see was ‘white’.


Its just his was of saying Nelson is 'blind' - easier to see light than dark.

Do not forget he said he had always admired Nelson.

:OhYes:

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 17:59
by twenty six
DG defender of the indefencible.
We all know precisely what he meant.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 18:26
by stujones
Lovemore would be a good shout for the type of opponent I want to see Ricky in with, before seeing him step up.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 18:53
by DG.
twenty six wrote:DG defender of the indefencible.
We all know precisely what he meant.
And how would you know? He was met with RACISM at the venue apparently, but he knew of Johnny Nelson BEFORE the fight.

Ok, what DID he mean?

I believe he meant it as I said!

Read the whole interview on fightneeews.com and he say's Nelson has colour blindness!!







:OhYes:

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 02:13
by oliverfennell
Non-white boxer met with racism when fighting a white Mancunian boxer in Manchester? Surely you jest!

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 05:50
by DG.
oliverfennell wrote:Non-white boxer met with racism when fighting a white Mancunian boxer in Manchester?

Surely you jest!
Sadly its the country we live in.
No wonder he Wont go back!


:OhYes:

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 09:00
by Counter-puncher
oliverfennell wrote: Why the fok is he banging on about Nelson siding with the white geezer then?
oliver- the way i was rading it, Ndou was just trying to (jokingly) suggest that Nelson had a reverse-colour vision problem, impairing his ability to score the fight properly. tongue in cheek, like. thats how i read it. Ndou always seemed to have a well-honed sense of irony, mmm.

am i the only one who didn't see an accusation of reverse race bias here?

anyways i liked the interview, especially the 'donkey' and 'charging forward like a footballer' comment. made me chucke, it did :TU:

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 17 Jan 2010, 14:26
by DG.
Counter-puncher wrote:


anyways i liked the interview, especially the 'donkey' and 'charging forward like a footballer' comment. made me chucke, it did :TU:
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:OhYes:

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 06:33
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Just trying to promote the rematch and get more money.


Quite rightly too.

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 07:04
by caffrey
i had ndou a clear winner,
i think its very unfair for him to compare matthew hatton with a donkey
donkeys are at least a little useful

Re: Lovemore Ndou on Johnny Nelson

Posted: 18 Jan 2010, 07:11
by oliverc
hitman_hatton1 wrote:2 time world champion in 2 weight classes. :oops:

just about sums up the poor state of the title picture that a ham and egger like n'dou can pick up titles.
But he's not. He's a one weight world titlist.
It's a pity he felt he had to return fire in this manner; all criticisms of Matthew Hatton are welcome & valid, but he really shows himself up to be an equally deluded twat in this press release.
I begrudingly acknowledge his IBF 'reign' (all four months of it). It's not his fault that Ricky Hatton deemed himself above fighting mandatories. But the fact remains had that fight taken place Lovemore Ndou would never have won his title.
As far as i'm concerned he won his title out of the ring & lost it in his first defence.
And don't get me started on that joke strap he currently holds at welter.