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Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 17:00
by nh1
The following is taken from Frank W's website.

Twenty-six, are you able to shed any light on this??

[From the 'Frankly Speaking' column]:
David Haye, the promoter who constantly says that boxers are being “ripped off” and was going to make sure that wouldn’t happen on his shows.

This week Haye made an offer to one of the fighters I co-manage, Ryan Rhodes, to defend his European title on the undercard of his show.

As part of the negotiation process, we asked for three night’s hotel accommodation for four people, a modest meal allowance per day, and 10 tickets to the show.

This is a standard one in the industry – but the answer was a flat no – can you imagine no hotel or food? In all my years in boxing, I've never had that kind of response.

They also said that we couldn’t approve of Rhodes’ opponent.

Why would I put a fighter in against someone I’ve had no say over.

Are Hayemaker for real? What is Haye’s manager, Adam “Phoney” Booth on?

To make matters worse, Rhodes’ other manager is Dave Coldwell who is Haye’s matchmaker. Who needs enemies when you’ve got friends like those!
May be this is what Haye meant when he said he’d be doing things differently…hungry fighters.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 17:04
by whiskey
"2 sides to every story"

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 17:25
by leforge
I could not find that on the website?

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 17:26
by leforge

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 17:49
by chinny
How the hell did Rhodes end up with two managers? What a mess. At this stage of his career, and with a good head on his shoulders, he ought to be self managed.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 17:50
by Spud
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I cant wait for Twenty Six's response on this.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:09
by twenty six
I am obliged to keep the powder dry for now Spudster.
:witzend:
Chinny - Joint Manager Agreements are prevelent in boxing - fact.
However, there is now a new BBB of C ruling that Joint Manager Agreements are no longer allowed.
Rhodes is jointly managed by Warren and Coldwell.
No great mystery mate.
When the contract expires then maybe he will decide to be self Managed or maybe not !

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:14
by leforge
Is Ryan fighting on that bill?

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:16
by Horse
twenty six wrote:However, there is now a new BBB of C ruling that Joint Manager Agreements are no longer allowed
Why have they chosen to do that?

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:31
by twenty six
Leforge,
Work it out for yourself mate, seems pretty obvious to me.
Horse,
I would assume they've been stopped due to complications that may arise when a dispute exists.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:41
by sweetscience
i think its a good job he has two managers on this occassion.....looks like he has been offered a right shite deal

wouldnt mind but this card is crap...in fact there isnt a card as yet

Haye
Groves

i would go if a few decent undercard fights are put on

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:45
by chinny
thanks for the responses 26, I guess you've said all you can without causing problems for your pal.

Funny how Mr Legedly's skin is so thin, yet he lets loose on others with both barrells through his various outlets.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:46
by chinny
sweetscience wrote: i would go if a few decent undercard fights are put on
You need to get a move on mate if the rumours are true

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:50
by sweetscience
chinny wrote:
sweetscience wrote: i would go if a few decent undercard fights are put on
You need to get a move on mate if the rumours are true
i dont believe that one for minute....

hatton only sold that place out once...no chance Haye will at the mo

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 03:23
by 15829
i think it will sell out, everyone loves the heaveyweight

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 06:12
by martin_g91
This sounds proper cheep. Looks like Haymaker have the same accomodation policy as Hatton Promotions ;;-)

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 06:51
by Twinkle Toes
26,

Can we expect Rhodes to be under a single manager or self managed some time this year?

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 08:31
by whicker
A Ryan Rhodes defence could headline a show itself, and would make an excellent Friday fight night (as long as the opponent wasn't dire.)

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 08:38
by leforge
whicker wrote:A Ryan Rhodes defence could headline a show itself, and would make an excellent Friday fight night (as long as the opponent wasn't dire.)
Agree with you there April 23rd and 30th dates could be possibilities.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 12:26
by twenty six
Leforge,
I think you'll find both of those dates are allocated.
Sky always work three months at least in advance.
Twinkle,
If you read my previous post there's the answer.
At expiry of the Contract a decision will be made.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 12:31
by leforge
[quote="twenty six"]Leforge,
I think you'll find both of those dates are allocated.
Sky always work three months at least in advance.

It not clear who dates they are. Also March 5th there no headline act so far. I hope Ryan gets his chance soon after his last performance.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 13:10
by twenty six
Forget 5th March mate.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 15:58
by leforge
Any news on when Ryan will be fighting?

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 17:31
by twenty six
Nothing agreed as yet.
Will hopefully be April.

Re: Ryan Rhodes, David Haye, Frank W

Posted: 16 Feb 2010, 17:33
by leforge
twenty six wrote:Nothing agreed as yet.
Will hopefully be April.
Be good if it is.