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I am looking for fight footage of famous referee's such as Cotton, Byrd, Lipton, Steele and Lane. Does anyone know where I can get any from?

I have the FOTY between Torres and Cotton.

The Eddie Cotton who fought Torres died of cancer years ago. He is not the ref of the same name.

Randy Neuman was a decent hw, several of his fights were filmed.

Some referees who boxed a little bit:

Gunboat Smith-see Sharkey/Schmeling II for starters

Kid McPartland--many important fights in the teens, 1920's

Jim Jeffries

Benny Leonard

Billy Graham

Max Baer, Jack Sharkey, Jack Dempsey, Max Schmeling, Joe Walcott, Joe Loius, Mushy Callaghan.

Most of them fought better than they refereed.

Woller

Ruby Goldstein.
He was the ref in the tragic Giffith- Paret fight.

Woller wrote:Max Baer, Jack Sharkey, Jack Dempsey, Max Schmeling, Joe Walcott, Joe Loius, Mushy Callaghan.

Most of them fought better than they refereed.

Woller

There's an understatement!

i like it when a ref gets accidentally blitzed by a wayward roundhouse swing. theres a few occasions when that happens

harrygreb wrote:i like it when a ref gets accidentally blitzed by a wayward roundhouse swing. theres a few occasions when that happens

A few have been flat out KO'd. And that usually gets the audiences attention right away, have you noticed?

Jack Sharkey was the ref of the great Archie Moore-Yvon Durelle first fight.

jmc617 wrote:I am looking for fight footage of famous referee's such as Cotton, Byrd, Lipton, Steele and Lane. Does anyone know where I can get any from?

I have the FOTY between Torres and Cotton.

It was the robbery of the year.

Cotton beat Torres thoroughly.
The decision was the worst I have ever seen other than the Jimmy Young-Ali travesty of a decision.

BoxBuzz wrote:

harrygreb wrote:i like it when a ref gets accidentally blitzed by a wayward roundhouse swing. theres a few occasions when that happens

A few have been flat out KO'd. And that usually gets the audiences attention right away, have you noticed?

Heres one that created a stir when it happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-FiOMhyPJM

I've seen that before and it may be the best example of all time.

My father was a NYS referee in the 1970's and 80's.; Charley Norkus

He also was a top ten contender hvywt in the 1950's.

about 10 of his boxing fights DVDs exist and a few refereeing fights DVDs exist.
Norkus vs Nardico I & II, Brion, LaStarza, Powell I, Rowan, Pastrano

referee on DVD Snipes vs Washington.
dokes vs Porter a few more Snipes too can be had for few $$$ by dealer
Charley also reffed former NYS Boxing Commissioner Randy Gordons only pro fight- Nassau Coliseum.
contact [email protected] ask for DVD catalog be sent to your home. 1,000's listed

Here is Jack Dempsey as a referee in 1931

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=4579

Mills Lane and Richard Steele both boxed. I saw Steele when he was a light heavyweight and I remember him as a competent fighter.

The same Richard STEAL who gave Leonard over thirty warnings by name for holding against Hagler without ever taking a point away?

The same Richard STEAL who stood by and grinned and never said a word while Leonard punched after the bell in 5 out of the 12 rounds?

Kid McPartland, top level lightweight in the late 1890's who lost a title fight by decision to Kid Lavigne and fought Gans a number of times

refereed a number of Benny Leonard's fights 20 years later.

Former lightweight champion Willie Ritchie refereed the Young Corbett II-Jack Thompson bout.

Patsy Haley fought Terry McGovern, George Dixon and Abe Attell. I have his officiating job in Tony Canzoneri vs Frankie Klick II on film. He once went 18 rounds with "Terrible" Terry McGovern.

TheGreatA wrote:Patsy Haley fought Terry McGovern, George Dixon and Abe Attell. I have his officiating job in Tony Canzoneri vs Frankie Klick II on film. He once went 18 rounds with "Terrible" Terry McGovern.

Thanks for that, A.

I have never seen Klick.

A pity there there is no record of McPartland's comments on comparing Gans (who he fought repeatedly) and Benny Leonard (whose fights he refereed years later).

The same with Haley comparing McGovern to the later top-level fighters whose fights he refereed.

..sonny liston refereed a fight between cleveland williams and a fighter whose name i can't remember. sonny was getting bored and tired and he kept saying, "come on cleve...knock this gjuy out so i can get out of here." i don't recall the outcome.