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Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 10:29
by Brutu
You know other then the one round against Ken Norton which was on HBO,
I think that the only Cooney fights that have been available on youtube for the public to see for years are his three loses seen over and over on youtube.
Which distorts his fighting career just having to watch if thats all thats available to see on youtube.
How many of his 31 professional fights were televised or filmed?
On which networks?
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 11:42
by Brutu
Some sellers have these early fights on vhs.but I wonder if they were locally televised or taped from audience.
1978- Cooney vrs S.T Gordon/Las Vegas/wdq4/(11th professional fight)
1978- Cooney vrs Grady Daniels/NYC/WRSD4/(15th pro fight)
1979-Cooney vrs Charlie Johnson/NYC/KO1/(17th pro fight)
Cooney vrs Tom Prater/NYC/KO2/(18th pro fight)
Cooney vrs John Dino Denis/NYC/KO3/(21st pro fight)
Cooney vrs LeRoy Boone/Atlantic City/TKO6/(22nd pro fight)
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 15:33
by SaadOffTheDeck
Young was definitely on CBS Sports Spectacular and I think Lyle was too. George Chaplin was also on the networks, I'm not sure which one. I think it was one of Fox's offerings.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 15:37
by Woller
The following were also televised:
Cooney v George Chaplin, Eddie Gregg, Ron Lyle and Jimmy Young.
Woller
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 15:38
by Musashi
I know for a fact all of these exist because I have them.
George Chaplin
Eddie Gregg
Phillip Brown
Ken Norton
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Dino Denis
Tom Prater
Charlie Johnson
Grady Daniels
S.T. Gordon
Earl Tripp
Larry Derrick
Larry Holmes
Michael Spinks
Gerry Cooney
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 15:46
by SaadOffTheDeck
Musashi wrote:I know for a fact all of these exist because I have them.
George Chaplin
Eddie Gregg
Phillip Brown
Ken Norton
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Dino Denis
Tom Prater
Charlie Johnson
Grady Daniels
S.T. Gordon
Earl Tripp
Larry Derrick
Larry Holmes
Michael Spinks
Gerry Cooney
Cooney vs Cooney? Does that resemble Tyson Fury?
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 15:50
by Musashi
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Musashi wrote:I know for a fact all of these exist because I have them.
George Chaplin
Eddie Gregg
Phillip Brown
Ken Norton
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Dino Denis
Tom Prater
Charlie Johnson
Grady Daniels
S.T. Gordon
Earl Tripp
Larry Derrick
Larry Holmes
Michael Spinks
Gerry Cooney
Cooney vs Cooney? Does that resemble Tyson Fury?
George Foreman.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 16:08
by dempseyfire
Never seen Lyle/Cooney . . did he blitz him like Norton or did Ron actually get some punches off?
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 16:17
by granberry
Cooney only fought "dead bodies."
He lost to anyone who hit him back.
Even to pathetic Michael Spinks.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 16:23
by SaadOffTheDeck
dempseyfire wrote:Never seen Lyle/Cooney . . did he blitz him like Norton or did Ron actually get some punches off?
Lyle made Kenny look fresh. Nothing you want to see.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 17:37
by Brutu
All of these fights were broadcast on HBO
1979-LeRoy Boone/TKO6
1980-Ron Lyle/KO1
1981-Ken Norton/KO1
1982-Larry Holmes(replay)
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 17:39
by Brutu
Earlous Tripp/KO.
That was for the 1976 Golden Gloves Heavyweight Open Championship at Madison Square Garden.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 21:16
by Collins2000
Brutu wrote:Earlous Tripp/KO.
That was for the 1976 Golden Gloves Heavyweight Open Championship at Madison Square Garden.
That was re-shown not too long ago on that MSG channel.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 21:40
by Brutu
I think ABC-TV aired live the fights with Brown,Chaplin and Gregg.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 02 Feb 2010, 21:44
by Brutu
Anyone have additional information concerning the Cooney vrs Wesley Watson,
5 round "Exhibition Match"
I had read that Gil Clancey wanted a tune up match before Cooney fought George Foreman in 1990.
It was also reported as an "unlicensed tuneup"
using 8 oz. gloves and no head gear.
Cooney won the decision.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 02:53
by SaadOffTheDeck
Brutu wrote:I think ABC-TV aired live the fights with Brown,Chaplin and Gregg.
The Chaplin fight was something aside from the three major networks.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 09:51
by Brutu
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Brutu wrote:I think ABC-TV aired live the fights with Brown,Chaplin and Gregg.
The Chaplin fight was something aside from the three major networks.
You are right.Apparently it was shown nationally on ESPN on next day tape,with commentery by Gerry Cooney.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 11:01
by granberry
I saw the Cooney-Chaplin fight on TV.
The stoppage by the ref was garbage.
There was no reason for the fight to be stopped.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 11:18
by SaadOffTheDeck
Brutu wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Brutu wrote:I think ABC-TV aired live the fights with Brown,Chaplin and Gregg.
The Chaplin fight was something aside from the three major networks.
You are right.Apparently it was shown nationally on ESPN on next day tape,with commentery by Gerry Cooney.
Chaplin was a good fighter, his two robbery losses to Greg Page were as bad as it gets. It was probably Cooney's best win. There is a lot of sentiment now that Cooney is underrated and could of would of, etc...
When he actually was rated just right. Great White Dope
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 11:59
by SaadOffTheDeck
I have no resentment towards Gerry. He is a genuine nice guy and very proactive in looking after other fighters and trying to implement new measures to help all fighters.
He just wasn't very good and while they may have rushed him, he may very well have lost before he got the huge fight if they didn't.
Tommy Morrison > Gerry Cooney, I think that says it all.
Edit: Not sure what happened there, I responded to a post from Brutu.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 12:22
by Brutu
Cooney had a big fan base from Long Island.His profesional debut was against Bill Jackson/KO1/ February 15.1977 at the Sunnyside Gardens Queens NYC.
I wonder how many of his early fights may have been recorded by fans from Long Island who had video cameras in the audience and perhaps
the vhs tapes are just still sitting in a shoebox in someones closet next to their platform shoes(like perhaps a lot of other fights of other boxers).
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 12:30
by granberry
I know of two fights Cooney had ( "won") that were fakes set up before they took place.
When you want to bring along a fighter like Cooney, the first rule is you don't let him in there with anyone who can punch as you are bringing him up.
You also get a string of 'fighters' who don't train full time and will run out of gas after 5-6 rounds. And have them fight him in 10 round fights.
That's the way it's done.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 12:36
by Brutu
The Cooney vrs Broderick Mason fight/August.22.1979(KO4)
like the Grady Daniels and Charlie Johnson fights was held at the Felt Forum,NYC.
I wonder if someone taped that too?
It got a write up in the New York Times anyway.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 03 Feb 2010, 14:07
by Brutu
dempseyfire wrote:Never seen Lyle/Cooney . . did he blitz him like Norton or did Ron actually get some punches off?
The last time I saw a clip of that was about 20 years ago.
Cooney was pounding him against the ropes and knocked Lyle out of the ring and I believe broke one of Lyle's ribs in the process.
Re: Gerry Cooney/televised-filmed fights(1977-1990)
Posted: 04 Feb 2010, 05:30
by Robinson
Lyle was clearly past his best, much like a Mercer was
against Klitschko or a Moore against Ali, but in any case
the body shot that Cooney landed on Lyle was savage
and extremely hard and well placed. I can not imagine
too many men taking that and having fight left in them.