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Georges Carpentier's Punching Power


Tommy Loughran:

My manager always claimed the greatest fight I ever fought was with Carpentier. It was at the stadium in Philadelphia, where Tunney and Dempsey fought. It was a terrific turnout for it. In the fight, Carpentier was fast, he could punch with both hands, he was a knockout puncher, had a terrific left hook. He had good footwork, he had speed, and he knew every angle of the ring. He knew how to feint. He knew how to duck punches, he knew how to block them, he knew how to use good footwork. He was well trained, he was well conditioned, but at the time I boxed him I would say he must have been around thirty-four or thirty-five. I mean, he was over the hill. In the meantime, he was still a dangerous puncher. He hit me with a left hook in the third round of the fight, caught me on the cheekbone. If he’d hit me on the chin I’d have out for a week. The side of my face came out like that. But then what I didn’t do to him, jeez. In the seventh round I dropped him right on his face. He was still trying to get that left across and I was suckering him into it. But he got up, and when he got up my hand was done for. That’s why I had respect for him, because of his age. But his knowledge, and his courage, and his capabilities were so extraordinary at that time. But he told me, “Tommy, that was the greatest fight I ever fought. That was my swan song. I knew it was time to quit when I couldn’t win with that kind of fight."

It was the greatest fight I ever fought. I think he was one of the greatest of all, Carpentier. . . .


Gunboat Smith:

Then I went to Europe, in 1914. That was on the 16th of July. I wasn’t in tip- top shape when I fought Carpentier. I left all my fight out in San Francisco and Boston. In 1914 I begin to slip. After I fought Langford and Willard, I begin to slip. I lost that certain something. I wasn’t right. I lost on a foul to Georges Carpentier. There was a good fighter, too, and a good hitter. He was a fellow that you didn’t know if he was standing on his head or on his feet. In the first round, he hit me a terrific punch, I didn’t go right down, but I kind of sunk. I took the count of eight and I got up. I stalled around for a couple of rounds, just feeling him out. I took me about two or three rounds to get over it. . .






both from Peter Heller’s IN THIS CORNER

Carpentier is an interesting fighter. Very unorthdox style with a seemingly very sloppy defense, but in his prime his top-flight speed and use of feints enabled him to get away with it. I do think like RJJ that once he started slowing down he began to suffer the consequences of never adhering to certain boxing fundamentals. The guts he shows vs Tunney though is incredible.

Also an overlooked PFP all-time puncher. He was knocking out heavyweights as a super-middleweight.

George Carpentier in 1960

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=41648

Brutu wrote:George Carpentier in 1960

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=41648

Thank you brutu.

Very interesting to see Jimmy Wilde, Ted Kid Lewis, Jack Kid Berg and others so many years later.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=64453


Carpentier-Beckett

posted by Brutu on another thread.

Carpentier losing his title to Battling Siki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2mXqc1u ... re=related

Georges Carpentier-vrs-George Cook.

Here is some excellent raw footage of all 4 rounds of his fight with Australian Heavyweight George Cook.
According to boxrec,this fight happened January.12.1922( on Carpentiers 28th birthday) at the Royal Albert Hall London England.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=79741

Georges Carpentier-vrs-Dick Smith(1919)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Io3lHd0YHQ

..it's an often told story that tex rickard asked dempsey to carry carpentier a while to give the fans a longer fight...and dempsey went along until carpentier smacked dempsey with a terriifc right hand that made dempsey wobble and the man from manassa knew he'd better get the smaller frenchman out of there as soon as he could, which was very soon indeed.

the film of this fight is a little jerky but you can see dempsey stop in his tracks for just a moment.

Actually Carpentier landed his best right hand, and the force of it moved Dempsey back a step.

But that's all it did.

Dempsey's chin was so good that it only physically moved him back a step but had no other effect.

The film of the Dempsey-Carpentier bout is the worst of any film of a Dempsey bout.
I wonder why that is.

Films made over 20 years earlier are far better--clearer, less jerky.

It could be due to the camera crew that was hired for that event. Or if only one acetate (or other film material) existed before it was copied, it may have deteriorated badly by the time the first copy was made.

I'll bet there are quite a few gems out there slowly disolving and being lost to future generations.

The trashing of this thread is marked by the arrival of buz.

Next the collins clones show up with their juvenile posts trashing the thread.

And then buz gleefully locks the thread.

Re-enacted over and over to infinity.

Brutu wrote:Georges Carpentier-vrs-George Cook.

Here is some excellent raw footage of all 4 rounds of his fight with Australian Heavyweight George Cook.
According to boxrec,this fight happened January.12.1922( on Carpentiers 28th birthday) at the Royal Albert Hall London England.

http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=79741

Thanks for this one. I have never seen Cook fight before, he is one of
those under appreciated Aussie fighters that you only hear about when
you go digging into the sports past.

Thanks for this!

granberry wrote:The trashing of this thread is marked by the arrival of buz.

Next the collins clones show up with their juvenile posts trashing the thread.

And then buz gleefully locks the thread.

Re-enacted over and over to infinity.

What does this have to do with George Carpentier's punching power?

granberry wrote:The trashing of this thread is marked by the arrival of buz.

Next the collins clones show up with their juvenile posts trashing the thread.

And then buz gleefully locks the thread.

Re-enacted over and over to infinity.

What does that have to do with a genuine comment which attempted to answer your question?

Genuinely not starting, I just cannot see why you'd take exception to an honest explanation?

Some really good links on this thread.

Thanks to those who posted.