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The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 03:42
by Scrap
Morning All
Just been sat looking through alot of posts about promoters, trainers and boxers and it has come to me that there are so many people that work alongside them both to make shows happen, they dont ever seem to get a mention and in my mind work harder than anyone pre and post show.
So I thought I would start a rare thread and see how many people there are milling around behind the scenes putting together our boxing nights.
Mine is John Wichhussen (spelling?) from Matchroom, an honest straight man, John is a man of his word and works tirelessly on Matchrooms shows. he is well loved in the game and for good reason, hes a lovely bloke who loves this game and fighters. So thank you John and long may you continue in your job.
Now who can you think of, lets say thanks to those that dont get a mention.

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 05:16
by DG.
I would like to thank BOXINGCHAT for making FWANK WARREN A GREAT CUP OF TEA AND SORTING OUT ALL THE LITTLE BITS.
SPUD - FOR NEVER ACTUALLY TELLING US ANYTHING, BUT ALWAYS SAYING A LOT.
I also agree with SCRAP - Johnny Wish works very hard and does a great job, even guides them up the last steps.

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 05:40
by boxref
Ernie Draper, Frank Warrens whip. When I first turned pro referee in the1980`s, I didn`t know anybody on this side of the game. Ernie was very kind to me and always helped me. The first person that would come over to me at a show would be Ernie, giving me all the details of the fights that I was doing, weights, colour of shorts etc. He would always manage to find me somewhere to get changed away from the fighters. In fact, he is still doing that to this day. Ernie is one of the few people that can remember me boxing as an amateur. He has looked after me as a pro, and I consider him a great friend. He is an excellent predictor of a fights outcome, and is genuinelly respected by everyone on my side of the sport.
But Ernie is only one. There are a lot more out there that never get noticed. There are too many to mention here.
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 06:06
by Scrap
Ernie Draper is one of the nicest people in the game, on the night, besides the boxers the whip works harder than anyone, in a big show ill bet they walk 30 mile a night. Bless them
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 06:08
by Londonirish
boxref wrote:Ernie Draper,
Your right and what a What a lovely man

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 06:26
by princess
Scrap wrote:Morning All
Just been sat looking through alot of posts about promoters, trainers and boxers and it has come to me that there are so many people that work alongside them both to make shows happen, they dont ever seem to get a mention and in my mind work harder than anyone pre and post show.
So I thought I would start a rare thread and see how many people there are milling around behind the scenes putting together our boxing nights.
Mine is John Wichhussen (spelling?) from Matchroom, an honest straight man, John is a man of his word and works tirelessly on Matchrooms shows. he is well loved in the game and for good reason, hes a lovely bloke who loves this game and fighters. So thank you John and long may you continue in your job.
Now who can you think of, lets say thanks to those that dont get a mention.

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Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 07:39
by rhino222
lee gostolo ... he will never be forgotten, life taken away so young, bloody pancreatic carcinoma...a sient, swift deadly killer.
as well as, most importantly, taking away a beautiful ladies husband and a young lads dad, the bloody disease deprived us of a top class bloke and a top class whip.
i only met lee about 6 times, sometimes behind the scenes, but a great smile and cheery nature, always time to have a chat and a laugh and a wind up.
rest in peace lee, you are sady missed !!

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 14:18
by Spud
Lee Gostolo is one chap I will never forget.
Others have named John Wichusen - he runs Barry Hearn's boxing operation at Matchroom - top man!!
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 28 Feb 2010, 16:40
by standing8
rhino222 wrote:lee gostolo ... he will never be forgotten, life taken away so young, bloody pancreatic carcinoma...a sient, swift deadly killer.
as well as, most importantly, taking away a beautiful ladies husband and a young lads dad, the bloody disease deprived us of a top class bloke and a top class whip.
i only met lee about 6 times, sometimes behind the scenes, but a great smile and cheery nature, always time to have a chat and a laugh and a wind up.
rest in peace lee, you are sady missed !!

i saw Lee's wife and young son today , at the magna centre. it was very nice to see them
LEE WAS A GENTLEMAN
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 05:13
by Coco
Londonirish wrote:boxref wrote:Ernie Draper,
Your right and what a What a lovely man

100% lovely bloke
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 06:37
by jonp
I heard a lot of the bollox going on about dean when i first got my license,i even got told a few times that he personnaly didnt like me because i had a matchmakers licence so i was a little bit sceptical about the man.
I just waited to see and tried to make no judgements as im not someone who rushes,im glad i did as it turns out we got chatting at a show where everything was going wrong and had to be sorted out.
After that Dean has given me plenty of good work a fair bit of advice and help and when i can iv reciprocated the help.
I think people need to get know someone before jumping on a hype bandwagon.It easy to point fingers a someone in a powerful job who sometimes has to tell someone bad news or do something not everyone is going to agree with.
Iv worked first hand with Dean Powell and like i say went in very cautiously and he never done me a wrong,a good bloke who people find it easy to jump up n down and slur his character.
You just watch after this statement heel probly burn down my gym and steal my wife

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 07:37
by rhino222
jonp wrote:I heard a lot of the bollox going on about dean when i first got my license,i even got told a few times that he personnaly didnt like me because i had a matchmakers licence so i was a little bit sceptical about the man.
I just waited to see and tried to make no judgements as im not someone who rushes,im glad i did as it turns out we got chatting at a show where everything was going wrong and had to be sorted out.
After that Dean has given me plenty of good work a fair bit of advice and help and when i can iv reciprocated the help.
I think people need to get know someone before jumping on a hype bandwagon.It easy to point fingers a someone in a powerful job who sometimes has to tell someone bad news or do something not everyone is going to agree with.
Iv worked first hand with Dean Powell and like i say went in very cautiously and he never done me a wrong,a good bloke who people find it easy to jump up n down and slur his character.
You just watch after this statement heel probly burn down my gym and steal my wife

has she got cataracts?? ....

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 08:18
by boxingchat
Anyone who thinks Dean Powell is the most hated man in Boxing is obviously not involved in the sport or knows nothing about it whatsoever. For thise in the know that title most definately goes to FREDDIE KING, teold Matchroom trainer who is universally recognised as, in the words of Bricktop, 'one orrible pudendum!'
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 09:33
by DG.
boxingchat wrote:Anyone who thinks Dean Powell is the most hated man in Boxing is obviously not involved in the sport or knows nothing about it whatsoever. For thise in the know that title most definately goes to FREDDIE KING, teold Matchroom trainer who is universally recognised as, in the words of Bricktop, 'one orrible pudendum!'
Where does Fwank Warren fit on the list?

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 09:40
by Samuel Brooks
DG. wrote:boxingchat wrote:Anyone who thinks Dean Powell is the most hated man in Boxing is obviously not involved in the sport or knows nothing about it whatsoever. For thise in the know that title most definately goes to FREDDIE KING, teold Matchroom trainer who is universally recognised as, in the words of Bricktop, 'one orrible pudendum!'
Where does Fwank Warren fit on the list?

Just behind you, lowlife.
This is supposed to be a thread to give some respect to the unsung heroes that work in our sport, not for you to vent your personal vendetta against FW.
Both the Ernies deserve a mention, Fossey and Draper. The two nicest blokes I have ever come across in boxing.
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 09:50
by DG.
Samuel Brooks wrote:DG. wrote:boxingchat wrote:Anyone who thinks Dean Powell is the most hated man in Boxing is obviously not involved in the sport or knows nothing about it whatsoever. For thise in the know that title most definately goes to FREDDIE KING, teold Matchroom trainer who is universally recognised as, in the words of Bricktop, 'one orrible pudendum!'
Where does Fwank Warren fit on the list?

Just behind you, lowlife.
This is supposed to be a thread to give some respect to the unsung heroes that work in our sport, not for you to vent your personal vendetta against FW.
Both the Ernies deserve a mention, Fossey and Draper. The two nicest blokes I have ever come across in boxing.
The comment was directed at Boxingchat , run along.
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 10:01
by boxingchat
Maybe so, but his comments are seconded by me. You are a bitter person it has to be said. If you have issues or dislike someone for a specific reason why don't you be a man and say what your beef is so that we may fully understand why you are a keyboard terrorist.
Have you even met some of the people you constantly slag off?
Enlighten us
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 10:11
by DG.
boxingchat wrote:Maybe so, but his comments are seconded by me. You are a bitter person it has to be said. If you have issues or dislike someone for a specific reason why don't you be a man and say what your beef is so that we may fully understand why you are a keyboard terrorist.
Have you even met some of the people you constantly slag off?
Enlighten us
Boxingchat and SB - you both have issues, keyboard terrorist?
I will consult my lawyers - they will contact you, I believe your comments paint me in a negative light. Legal action is the only path open to me.
Finally, this thread is about the Good Guys i the sport, can't you read?
So start your own thread called 'Boxing Scum Bags' if you want to say nasty things about people.
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 10:17
by boxingchat
Err, you're the one who started the insults. You seem to have a problem with Warren so be a man and say what it is. At least then you might get some respect and not come across as a vindictive twat.
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 10:23
by Samuel Brooks
DG. wrote:boxingchat wrote:Maybe so, but his comments are seconded by me. You are a bitter person it has to be said. If you have issues or dislike someone for a specific reason why don't you be a man and say what your beef is so that we may fully understand why you are a keyboard terrorist.
Have you even met some of the people you constantly slag off?
Enlighten us
Boxingchat and SB - you both have issues, keyboard terrorist?
I will consult my lawyers - they will contact you, I believe your comments paint me in a negative light. Legal action is the only path open to me.
Without trying to sound like we are at school, YOU STARTED IT!!!
If you have issues with people, let us know what they are, otherwise keep your childish (yes, back to school knob end) to yourself and do us all a favour and crawl back under the rock from whence you came.
Finally, this thread is about the Good Guys i the sport, can't you read?
So start your own thread called 'Boxing Scum Bags' if you want to say nasty things about people.
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 10:23
by DG.
boxingchat wrote:Err, you're the one who started the insults. You seem to have a problem with Warren so be a man and say what it is. At least then you might get some respect and not come across as a vindictive twat.
I asked 'where does Fwank fit on the list' - its a question, it's not an insult.
Get some 'respect'?
And someone teach Samuel Brooks how to 'quote'
Back on topic....
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 10:34
by Deserter
boxingchat wrote:At least then you might get some respect and not come across as a vindictive twat.
Err, pot kettle etc..

Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 11:43
by Des1
With all due respect all D.G asked was 'where does Fwank fit on the list'....How is that an insult? Whats wrong with him asking that question?
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 11:52
by Coco
Des1 wrote:With all due respect all D.G asked was 'where does Fwank fit on the list'....How is that an insult? Whats wrong with him asking that question?
FW does have a reputation for being sensitive!
Also I notice the comment having a go at Dean Powell was removed, along with another posts which questioned it!!
Re: The forgotten people ?
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 12:16
by Deserter
There's a quiet guy called Spud who does a lot of work behind the scenes at various shows, but you won't have heard of him because he hates the limelight
