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Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 18:16
by MrBoxingUK2
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 19:43
by whiskey
yes i enjoyed watching that.
The music does get annoying and the subtitles bordered on 'hater' but the content was ok, especially the bit where Roach say's that Shane Mosley came to the wild card to make a fight with Pacquiao and Roach asked him "can you get down to 142?" and Shane said he would not, but why not fight him at 147 like you did Oscar...and Roach replies "because your not Oscar" - your better than Oscar.
It would seem Pacman has certainly been fortunate to pick so many vulnerable, over-ripe names in recent months. Hatton - practically retired; Cotto- 1 more fight? ; ODLH - retired.
Mayweather would be a total different beast. Pacman wouldnt be abled to land anything on him i believe.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 02 Mar 2010, 19:50
by SteveDow
I think Pacquiao is a fantastic fighter but I'd back Mayweather to beat him 99 times out of 100. I think the only way Pac could win the fight is by catching him cold in the first 3 or 4 rounds as Mayweather usually takes a couple of rounds to work his tougher opponents out before going on to dominate. For example in the Hatton fight, Hatton had some decent moments in the 1st round. If Pac couldn't get rid of him early, I could see Floyd pot shotting him all night and either winning by a wide points margin or even by late round stoppage as he began to sit down more on his punches.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 02:50
by johncollins
But what are the odds of Floyd getting banged out early? Very very very low.
floyd does need a few rounds to adjust to his opponent though. Judah was doing very well for the first 4 rounds before he was completely nullified.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 05:27
by jinjang
フレディローチ正直な男ではない !
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 05:33
by Autobarn
G0mez wrote:yes i enjoyed watching that.
The music does get annoying and the subtitles bordered on 'hater' but the content was ok, especially the bit where Roach say's that Shane Mosley came to the wild card to make a fight with Pacquiao and Roach asked him "can you get down to 142?" and Shane said he would not, but why not fight him at 147 like you did Oscar...and Roach replies "because your not Oscar" - your better than Oscar.
It would seem Pacman has certainly been fortunate to pick so many vulnerable, over-ripe names in recent months. Hatton - practically retired; Cotto- 1 more fight? ; ODLH - retired.
Mayweather would be a total different beast. Pacman wouldnt be abled to land anything on him i believe.
well pacman has reached a certain level of marketability after his great work at 122, 126, 130, 135-pounds, hasn't he?
it does get annoying that he picks another weakened welterweight at a low weight, but he has the bargaining power.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 05:54
by Deno1986
jinjang wrote:フレディローチ正直な男ではない !
agreed.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 05:57
by teddy007
Deno1986 wrote:jinjang wrote:フレディローチ正直な男ではない !
agreed.
x2

Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 05:57
by taffytoon
Deno1986 wrote:jinjang wrote:フレディローチ正直な男ではない !
agreed.
+2 but with Crackers
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 06:13
by Asterix
jinjang said something like "the man is not honest".
Oscar De La Hoya - Yes, weakened.
Hatton - Yes, punch resistance wasn't as good, however, Pacquiao still had to land an awesome punch.
Cotto - Pacquiao completely outboxed Cotto for 11 full rounds. Regardless of Cotto's punch resistance, Pacquiao proved he was the superior boxer. And Cotto's weight was OK. He looked the same in the ring as he had in previous fights.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 13:33
by DG.
The video states what I have always said. Pac is overrated, good fightger, but he feasts on the remains of once good fighters.
PBF would beat him......easy fight.
:geek2:
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 03 Mar 2010, 20:03
by Shirow
Pacquiao isn't a true Welterweight so i don't see anything wrong in getting an advantage when he's fighting the best in the world. Lightweight is probably still the best weight for him. He'll likely be outweighed by almost 30lbs against Clottey who i always remember was 170lbs in the ring against Corrales.
I've always thought that Mayweather could avoid and potshot Pacquiao for 12 but i read an article saying that Pacquiao has the all the attributes that bother Mayweather even not taking into account his quality.
Speed - see Judah fight
Southpaw - see Judah fight
Educated pressure - see Castillo fights
Which made me think...
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 05:12
by Asterix
Shirow wrote:Pacquiao isn't a true Welterweight so i don't see anything wrong in getting an advantage when he's fighting the best in the world. Lightweight is probably still the best weight for him. He'll likely be outweighed by almost 30lbs against Clottey who i always remember was 170lbs in the ring against Corrales.
I've always thought that Mayweather could avoid and potshot Pacquiao for 12 but i read an article saying that Pacquiao has the all the attributes that bother Mayweather even not taking into account his quality.
Speed - see Judah fight
Southpaw - see Judah fight
Educated pressure - see Castillo fights
Which made me think...
Clottey wasn't 170 lbs in the ring. From what I heard, he was wearing all his clothes for the HBO weigh in. And Clottey weighed 156 lbs vs Zab Judah.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 07:19
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Is Clottey being made to come down to 145?
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 07:40
by Asterix
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Is Clottey being made to come down to 145?
It's a standard welterweight (147 lbs) fight, as far as I know.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 07:49
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Asterix wrote:Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:Is Clottey being made to come down to 145?
It's a standard welterweight (147 lbs) fight, as far as I know.
I heard talk of it being a 144 (not 145) catchweight when first announced, nothing since, but that was from Pacmans camp
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 09:24
by goodbetter
It's a garbage compilation put together by someone with an obvious bias towards Mayweather and an equal dislike of Pacquiao.
Re: Pacman Exposed!!
Posted: 04 Mar 2010, 09:45
by MrBoxingUK2
goodbetter wrote:
It's a garbage compilation put together by someone with an obvious bias towards Mayweather and an equal dislike of Pacquiao.
garbage compilation? maybe he is biased but it's the truth? pacman doesn't fight for money is what he says? not according to freddie roach. wanted mosley to go to 142 so he would be drained! the guy who made this video is a very sad individual tho and probs took days making this
