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AUDREY HARRISON TO FIGHT SPROTT or MATT SKELTON NEXT YEAR?
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 12:56
by nasty
I'm sure I heard Audrey say in his BBC interview that he was gonna be back in England for the start of the year and although he didn't name them, he said he was looking at 2 options which were a fight for the Southern area title which is currently held by Micheal Sprott or the English Title which is held by Matt 'the fat' Skelton.
Both fights would be a Major step up in Class for Audrey and it'd be about time to see whether he could CUT IT at a higher level!
Out of the 2, Sprott is the better fighter but has a suspect chin and would be nearly 2 stones and 5 inches smaller than Audrey!
Skelton is still a wild card for me! Sure, the guy can punch and has some skills but his chin hasn't really been tested by a good punch so whether he's for REAL or just another over hyped PELE REID is yet to be revealed!
I also found it a little strange that he should mention the English title which is a SKY TELEVISION invention and therefore wouldn't be accepted by the BBC. Is Audrey thinking of jumping ship and moving to Sky? Surely if this happened, BBC may just give up on boxing just when they were starting to take an interest!
I't be good to hear what you guys think about the situation!
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Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 13:58
by Riddick Bowie
mate, these guys are NOT big step ups in class.
these british heavies like skelton or sprott are no higher than the american journeymen audleys been whacking out recently.
audley was just plauying it safe when he made those remarks. if these next two US matches go to plan look for audley to fight danny about feb 04, especially if herbie ices him, which i believe he will.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 14:13
by stujones
Neil (The Bounty) Hunter wrote:mate, these guys are NOT big step ups in class.
these british heavies like skelton or sprott are no higher than the american journeymen audleys been whacking out recently.
audley was just plauying it safe when he made those remarks. if these next two US matches go to plan look for audley to fight danny about feb 04, especially if herbie ices him, which i believe he will.
Disagree with you there Neil, I would say that the non-uk opponents Harrison have faced are probably the worse. With the possible exception of Rob Calloway, Harrison's best opponents have been Krence or Ellis.
Thats my opinion.
I for one would like to see Harrison face these two (especially Skelton who did impress me last time). However, I won't believe it until I see them in the ring. Hopefully very soon (his first fights back in the UK I'm hoping).
He didn't give no specific date, if its the end of next year then I'll be dissapointed.
Posted: 06 Oct 2003, 15:06
by steve689
It's all talk for me until i actually see it happening, Barry Hearn may fancy Audley but allegedly would be a serious hypocrite if he touches him considering what he has said about him in the past. Audley on SKY? Nah he may have to fight someone with a pulse
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Skelton and Sprott are way better than the guys Audley has been fighting of late and i would welcome a fight with them and Harrison as a good test. So far Skelton has fought Mike Holden and Michael Sprott has fought Danny Williams (twice) and Timo Hoffmann which are all fights in a higher class than Harrison has ever fought at so far in his pro career so why should they not be perceived as tests?
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 04:35
by Kilburn
Neil (The Bounty) Hunter wrote:mate, these guys are NOT big step ups in class.
these british heavies like skelton or sprott are no higher than the american journeymen audleys been whacking out recently.
Sorry Neil but this is utter, utter drivel. No other way to describe it.

Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 06:51
by Chambers
IMO Sprott and Skelton are definately a step up in class for Audley, I think either or both of the fights will be a good warm-up for a shot at the British title. I don't believe Audley will go to Sky as I think he wants to go down as a household name and Sky doesn't have the viewing figures, but the way the BBC have constantly tried to antagonize him I think he is quite within his rights to defect.
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 08:35
by Riddick Bowie
Kilburn wrote:Neil (The Bounty) Hunter wrote:mate, these guys are NOT big step ups in class.
these british heavies like skelton or sprott are no higher than the american journeymen audleys been whacking out recently.
Sorry Neil but this is utter, utter drivel. No other way to describe it.

sorry kilburn, but instead of using rolling eyes emoticons, why dont you EXPLAIN why its 'utter utter drivel'?
matt skelton, a fat 36 yr old novice is somehow vastly superior to hardened US journeymen like quinn navarre whos been in with golota, holmes, thunder, brewster etc?
or michael sprott, a man whos been blown out by domestic level british heavies on numerous occasions, and had life or death struggles with opponents who arent even close to world class is now some kind of live dangerous contender?
exactly what have these guys accomplished to put themselves on this higher level?
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 08:58
by Kilburn
The post was so blatantly bad Neil I genuinely didn't see the need to elaborate.
By saying that Sprott and Skelton are at the same level as these dodgy US journeymen you're implying that Audley would do a similar job on his domestic rivals - even though he chose to leave Britain because of the pressure being put on him to step up a level.
Audley could not stop McCafferty, Krence or the cruiserweight Negus but now all of a sudden because he's spent a few weeks in America he could just come back home and blitz his way through even tougher opposition than those guys?? Please.
I get the impression that you were so impressed with Audley's finishing punches last friday night that you've let perspective fly straight out of the window. It appears you've TOTALLY fallen for the A-Force hype. Well done mate.
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 09:03
by Costa
The difference between the journeymen in question and Sprott/Skelton, is that evey bout that Sprott/Skelton have contested they have had a reasonable chance of winning. I mean the reason these journeymen have come up against big names is not neccessarily because they are great fighters.
Whats more Sprott and Skelton are well known domestically and offer Harrison the chance to silence his critics at home. Both hold titles too even if they are minor ones allwoing some fuss to be made of the fights. I would like to see consecutive fights between either one of these and then Williams for the commonwealth and British title. This would set him up well though he may seek the lonsdale belt.
At the end of the day he should be looking at a European belt by the end of 2004.
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 09:33
by Goz
Neil (The Bounty) Hunter wrote:mate, these guys are NOT big step ups in class.
these british heavies like skelton or sprott are no higher than the american journeymen audleys been whacking out recently.
audley was just plauying it safe when he made those remarks. if these next two US matches go to plan look for audley to fight danny about feb 04, especially if herbie ices him, which i believe he will.
No chance of Audley fighting Williams in February 04, no chance at all. Skelton and Sprott are most definitely a step up, admittedly not an enormous one but they would both come to win and are both fighters who have won a lot more than they have lost in recent times.
In fights with domestic opposition Audley also suffers from what I call 'Manchester United' syndrome, in that every single fighter he takes on over here will be so up for it against him, more so than if they were fighting Julius Francis or even Danny Williams. For a lot of domestic fighters it's their world title shot.
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 13:50
by Riddick Bowie
Kilburn wrote:The post was so blatantly bad Neil I genuinely didn't see the need to elaborate.
By saying that Sprott and Skelton are at the same level as these dodgy US journeymen you're implying that Audley would do a similar job on his domestic rivals - even though he chose to leave Britain because of the pressure being put on him to step up a level.
Audley could not stop McCafferty, Krence or the cruiserweight Negus but now all of a sudden because he's spent a few weeks in America he could just come back home and blitz his way through even tougher opposition than those guys?? Please.
this post is so blatantly bad i shouldnt really bother responding.
if you think audley is the exact same fighter still who fought mccafferty then you obviousl ybelieve he hasnt improved whatsoever since his pro debut.
the guy is improving fast and is way better than when he was fighting those guys a year to a year and a half ago.
if you think that fat old man is a threat then you've fallen for frank warrens hype job. well done mate.
if you think sprott- a known loser- is any better because of his string of 'impressive' wins over domestic level journeymen potter and holden then you've clearly fallen for whoever the fornicate promotes sprott. well done too.
i dont think either of them are any better than matthew ellis who audley already blew out to no credit whatsoever, and rob calloway showed more ability than i ahve seen from either of them.
Posted: 07 Oct 2003, 15:32
by steve689
Finally everyone is starting to realise like i have that Audley is taking us all for mugs.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 05:40
by Kilburn
Neil (The Bounty) Hunter wrote:
this post is so blatantly bad i shouldnt really bother responding.
if you think audley is the exact same fighter still who fought mccafferty then you obviousl ybelieve he hasnt improved whatsoever since his pro debut.
the guy is improving fast and is way better than when he was fighting those guys a year to a year and a half ago.
if you think that fat old man is a threat then you've fallen for frank warrens hype job. well done mate.
if you think sprott- a known loser- is any better because of his string of 'impressive' wins over domestic level journeymen potter and holden then you've clearly fallen for whoever the fornicate promotes sprott. well done too.
i dont think either of them are any better than matthew ellis who audley already blew out to no credit whatsoever, and rob calloway showed more ability than i ahve seen from either of them.
Neil we have differing opinions on Audley that is clear but surely you have to conceed that the big man has proven NOTHING other than he can look good against punch bags and little guys. Just like Calvin Brock, Derek Bryant, Eric Kirkland and that hopeless Malik Scott.
I have no problem with posters getting excited about prospects but you can't expect nobody to take offence when you disrespect fighters who, while clearly no world beaters, have proven themselves at a higher level.
It was all laid out for Audley to show what he could do at domestic level but he didn't like the heat and instead chose to go on a tour and fight at places where nobody gives a shit about him. That's not proving ANYTHING.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 06:55
by Chambers
steve689 wrote:Finally everyone is starting to realise like i have that Audley is taking us all for mugs.
Finally???????????
Everyone has (wrongly) thought this since he turned pro. It is only recently that when I have been arguing the toss about Audley that people have started to back me, so I would say the tide is turning and the British public are slowly warming to Audley and in 18 months time when he has sparked Sprott, Skelton, Hide, Williams and Sam and working his way towards a world title shot he will be verging on a national hero.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 07:19
by Priff
Big_Dave wrote:in 18 months time when he has sparked Sprott, Skelton, Hide, Williams and Sam and working his way towards a world title shot he will be verging on a national hero.
He certainly will, and if that happened, I would be behind him all the way.
But it's not gonna happen. If he does ever step up in class, (which there have been no signs of yet*) he's not getting through that lot any time soon.
*his last scheduled opponent was Tommy Connelly (7-1-(5)). This does not represent a step up in class.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 07:30
by Chambers
Priff wrote:Big_Dave wrote:in 18 months time when he has sparked Sprott, Skelton, Hide, Williams and Sam and working his way towards a world title shot he will be verging on a national hero.
He certainly will, and if that happened, I would be behind him all the way.
But it's not gonna happen. If he does ever step up in class, (which there have been no signs of yet*) he's not getting through that lot any time soon.
*his last scheduled opponent was Tommy Connelly (7-1-(5)). This does not represent a step up in class.
Agreed, but he was added to the McCline-Boswell card at late notice and can't be expected to get a decent opponent at such short notice. He is still only a 13 fight novice if you compare his rate of progression with other Heavies you will see he is progressing at a similar rate.
He has stated that he will be returning to Britain in the new year and I think this is the time we will see a substantial improvement in his standard of opposition, he has already mentioned the Southern Area (Sprott) or English title (Skelton), which he will use as a stepping stone to Williams or Hide.
On a different note,
After seeing how the fast and mobile Juan Carlos Gomez dealt with Sam, I am not surprised (the fast and mobile)Hide is talking about a fight with him. IMO This would be a good fight for Hide and I am confident he would bring the European title back to Britain
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 08:18
by Costa
I'll this again because people are obviously so blinded by hate. Connelly was never percieved as a step up nor was Diaz both were were late challengers to a bout which Harrison only accepted of late.
Remeber the whole fornicating reason hes in America is for a three fight deal with ESPN, well his bout with Diaz was not on ESPN and was only taken to ensure Harrison remained active. At the end of the day who are you going to get at ten days notice let alone three. Think people.
Most of Harrison's critics complained about his activiceness, so now thats hes making an effort to be more active your now finding something else to complain about. In the general forum, a quality post was made about Harrison by Tolstoy, I recommend most people read that.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 08:45
by knockout artist
I have heard that Audley's next opponent on UK soil might be Roman Greenberg.
This is a bad fight for Harrison.
Greenberg will embarrass, humiliate and then KO him.
And I like Audley, I'm just being realistic.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 08:50
by Goz
knockout artist wrote:I have heard that Audley's next opponent on UK soil might be Roman Greenberg.
This is a bad fight for Harrison.
Greenberg will embarrass, humiliate and then KO him.
And I like Audley, I'm just being realistic.
No chance.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 08:51
by Kilburn
Big_Dave wrote:After seeing how the fast and mobile Juan Carlos Gomez dealt with Sam, I am not surprised (the fast and mobile)Hide is talking about a fight with him. IMO This would be a good fight for Hide and I am confident he would bring the European title back to Britain
Dave there's a big difference between Gomez and Hide. Firstly the Cuban can absorb a solid shot without showing any affects and secondly he can box for 12 rounds easily despite giving away weight. This has been proven.
Hide couldn't beat Sam the way Gomez did because that would require him not only to take punches but also to show strength in close. That just is not Herbie, which has also been proven.
Maybe Hide could jab, move and frustrate Sam for 36 minutes but I can't imagine him pulling it off. Sam might be a bit of a plodder but he's not clueless. He knows how to land punches.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 08:53
by Costa
Is this story made up, knockout artist because I fail to understand why two unbeaten boxers at this stage in their careers would come up against each other. Whats more judging by Greenburg's oposition so far in his career, Audley would represent a tremendous step up for him.
Also I hardly think Harrison's team is thinking that far ahead when they have two U.S bouts ahead of them. Greenburg's name has never been mentioned by Harrison either.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 08:55
by Kilburn
Goz wrote:knockout artist wrote:I have heard that Audley's next opponent on UK soil might be Roman Greenberg.
This is a bad fight for Harrison.
Greenberg will embarrass, humiliate and then KO him.
And I like Audley, I'm just being realistic.
No chance.
Goz I assume you mean "no chance of the fight happening"? I'd agree totally with that. Greenberg hasn't shown any obvious weaknesses yet. Much too risky.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 09:01
by Goz
Kilburn wrote:Goz wrote:knockout artist wrote:I have heard that Audley's next opponent on UK soil might be Roman Greenberg.
This is a bad fight for Harrison.
Greenberg will embarrass, humiliate and then KO him.
And I like Audley, I'm just being realistic.
No chance.
Goz I assume you mean "no chance of the fight happening"? I'd agree totally with that. Greenberg hasn't shown any obvious weaknesses yet. Much too risky.
Yes that is what I meant. Basically for the reasons Costa mentioned above.
To be fair to Audley I doubt Greenberg would be chomping at the bit to fight him either at this point in his career. I think either the poster is being very silly or is listening to someone talking poop.
Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 13:35
by nasty
Until Audrey fights an opponent who has a chance of winning and beats them, I'll stay cynical towards him!
I'll ask you Audrey Lovers This! What exactly has he done in his Pro career so far to make you think he'll be world Champion?
Lets look at his last 2 opponents :
Quinn Navaro - a shot journyman fighter ranked around 166th in the world
Lisandro Diaz - a novice club fighter who had no chance of winning the fight but due to Audrey's poor skill's lasted till the fourth
Basically, you Audrey Lovers are blind fools who are too in love with audrey to see that he's really not who you beleive him to be.
He fights guys who are no threat to him. Why should he fight a real fighter when your already a millionaire and living the high life
Wake up, the guys taking you for a RIDE!
He don't give a fornicate about his fans
He's just gonna love you and leave you
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Posted: 08 Oct 2003, 14:38
by Riddick Bowie
jesus christ.... what kind of moronic posting do we have to put up with in here...
nasty, can you name me ONE threatening opponent in the first 13 fights of lennox lewis? david tua? mike tyson? hasim rahman? your beloved baby joe mesi? james toney? roy frickin jones?????????????????
ANYBODY??????????????
and we're 'blind fools'?