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any word on andy lee

rocky2010 wrote:any word on andy lee

He is meant to headline a brian peters card at the end of april or may in ireland , no opponents have been mentioned yet. Andy lee is also looking for new management and possiblly a new trainer as his contract was up with emmanel steward is up and andy didnt renew it.... thats all i know.

Barry big balz wrote:

rocky2010 wrote:any word on andy lee

He is meant to headline a brian peters card at the end of april or may in ireland , no opponents have been mentioned yet. Andy lee is also looking for new management and possiblly a new trainer as his contract was up with emmanel steward is up and andy didnt renew it.... thats all i know.

its good to keep up with the irish fighters

rocky2010 wrote:

Barry big balz wrote:

rocky2010 wrote:any word on andy lee

He is meant to headline a brian peters card at the end of april or may in ireland , no opponents have been mentioned yet. Andy lee is also looking for new management and possiblly a new trainer as his contract was up with emmanel steward is up and andy didnt renew it.... thats all i know.

its good to keep up with the irish fighters

The ESB irish thread is a good place to keep up on irish boxers but dont say anything bad about bernard dunne or they will run ya! D

Barry big balz wrote:

rocky2010 wrote:

Barry big balz wrote: He is meant to headline a brian peters card at the end of april or may in ireland , no opponents have been mentioned yet. Andy lee is also looking for new management and possiblly a new trainer as his contract was up with emmanel steward is up and andy didnt renew it.... thats all i know.

its good to keep up with the irish fighters

The ESB irish thread is a good place to keep up on irish boxers but dont say anything bad about bernard dunne or they will run ya! D

actually they ran you for a lot more than that!

BBB, said he would walk if anyone asked him to - everyone asked him to!

slapbangwhallop wrote:

Barry big balz wrote:

rocky2010 wrote: its good to keep up with the irish fighters

The ESB irish thread is a good place to keep up on irish boxers but dont say anything bad about bernard dunne or they will run ya! D

actually they ran you for a lot more than that!
rouht
BBB, said he would walk if anyone asked him to - everyone asked him to!

I also said matthew macklin would be beat by pirog which i still stand by..... i shouldnt of brought up nationalitys when i discuss boxing and i apoligise for that but the guys on that thread including yourself are incredibly biased towards certain boxers you have to admit.ESB irish thread is great for irish information but i wouldnt discuss irish boxers with irish boxing fans on that thread.

Barry big balz wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:

Barry big balz wrote: The ESB irish thread is a good place to keep up on irish boxers but dont say anything bad about bernard dunne or they will run ya! D

actually they ran you for a lot more than that!
rouht
BBB, said he would walk if anyone asked him to - everyone asked him to!

I also said matthew macklin would be beat by pirog which i still stand by..... i shouldnt of brought up nationalitys when i discuss boxing and i apoligise for that but the guys on that thread including yourself are incredibly biased towards certain boxers you have to admit.ESB irish thread is great for irish information but i wouldnt discuss irish boxers with irish boxing fans on that thread.

I wouldn't accept that they are biased at all - I would say that 80% the posters on the Irish thread on ESB said that Cordoba would stop Dunne and there wasn't anyone that gave Dunne more than a 50/50 chance and I doubt if anyone ever said Dunne was in the top 3 or even 5 SBW in the world - they aren't biased about Dunne - they are balanced towards Dunne.

Yes, you said Pirog would beat Macklin - no one had a problem with that. Pirog looks pretty good but is untested with real quality and if you think think he would beat Macklin then fair enough, I disagree but like I said no one had a problem with that.

The straw that broke the camel back (after months of bs from you) was that you whole heartedly agreed with Conlan's assessment of Dunne's career. Conlan, who doesn't know his arse from his elbow with regards boxing, made a litany of factual errors - like saying that Dunne was down twice against Vorinon when he wasn't even down once, to his utterly bogus opinions e.g. the European title was the Intertoto of boxing etc. If anyone agreed with Conlan's article they are either an idiot or a troll - you choose!

For anyone that never seen the article I am referring to here is the link. This was published the week of Dunne's retirement and I genuinely have never read a more begrudging, nasty, scurrilous, ignorant article in all my days.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-s ... 72760.html

barry big ballz also tried to say rogan mccloskey and lindsay are british because they were born in n.ireland

clown !!

I dont post nor will i ever again post in the ESB irish thread yet they still follow me around......

moorser wrote:barry big ballz also tried to say rogan mccloskey and lindsay are british because they were born in n.ireland

clown !!

they all had british title's tho apart from big marty

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:

moorser wrote:barry big ballz also tried to say rogan mccloskey and lindsay are british because they were born in n.ireland

clown !!

they all had british title's tho apart from big marty

So has Ajose Olusegun but no one considers him anything other than Nigerian.

BigEars wrote:

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:

moorser wrote:barry big ballz also tried to say rogan mccloskey and lindsay are british because they were born in n.ireland

clown !!

they all had british title's tho apart from big marty

So has Ajose Olusegun but no one considers him anything other than Nigerian.

Shinny Bayaar!?

BigEars wrote:

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:

moorser wrote:barry big ballz also tried to say rogan mccloskey and lindsay are british because they were born in n.ireland

clown !!

they all had british title's tho apart from big marty

So has Ajose Olusegun but no one considers him anything other than Nigerian.

i knw i was not trying to claim that irish are british!! im just saying they shouldn't be allowed to fight for british title's which they shouldn't have, olusegan has been a british citizen for a long time tho mate.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

BigEars wrote:

MrBoxingUK2 wrote: they all had british title's tho apart from big marty

So has Ajose Olusegun but no one considers him anything other than Nigerian.

Shinny Bayaar!?

whats your point?

I never said anything and the rows break out...... fighting for both irish/british titles does cause confusion on nationalitys everyone on both sides have to admit.

Barry big balz wrote:I never said anything and the rows break out...... fighting for both irish/british titles does cause confusion on nationalitys everyone on both sides have to admit.

I don't find it confusing at all, its a technicality exploited by some fighters to advance their careers. Good for them. Certainly doesn't make them British. If the rules say its ok...

JamesH wrote:

Barry big balz wrote:I never said anything and the rows break out...... fighting for both irish/british titles does cause confusion on nationalitys everyone on both sides have to admit.

I don't find it confusing at all, its a technicality exploited by some fighters to advance their careers. Good for them. Certainly doesn't make them British. If the rules say its ok...

Thats the way i see it too, everyone knows its good to be irish in the boxing buisness and fighting for a british title will get you on sky and that means your into at least a couple million viewers livingrooms in the uk (great exposure).Its just sometimes when you see a fight call himself irish after one fight then call himself english in another fighter i lose a little bit of repect for them.... Nothing wrong with being british i have froch only 2nd to abraham to win the super 6 so dont get this rant twisted.

Barry big balz wrote:

JamesH wrote:

Barry big balz wrote:I never said anything and the rows break out...... fighting for both irish/british titles does cause confusion on nationalitys everyone on both sides have to admit.

I don't find it confusing at all, its a technicality exploited by some fighters to advance their careers. Good for them. Certainly doesn't make them British. If the rules say its ok...

Thats the way i see it too, everyone knows its good to be irish in the boxing buisness and fighting for a british title will get you on sky and that means your into at least a couple million viewers livingrooms in the uk (great exposure).Its just sometimes when you see a fight call himself irish after one fight then call himself english in another fighter i lose a little bit of repect for them.... Nothing wrong with being british i have froch only 2nd to abraham to win the super 6 so dont get this rant twisted.

are you talking about macklin? because i have heard him say that several times that he is english 1 day then irish when he fights over there

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:

Barry big balz wrote:

JamesH wrote: I don't find it confusing at all, its a technicality exploited by some fighters to advance their careers. Good for them. Certainly doesn't make them British. If the rules say its ok...

Thats the way i see it too, everyone knows its good to be irish in the boxing buisness and fighting for a british title will get you on sky and that means your into at least a couple million viewers livingrooms in the uk (great exposure).Its just sometimes when you see a fight call himself irish after one fight then call himself english in another fighter i lose a little bit of repect for them.... Nothing wrong with being british i have froch only 2nd to abraham to win the super 6 so dont get this rant twisted.

are you talking about macklin? because i have heard him say that several times that he is english 1 day then irish when he fights over there

No comment great boxer although, will be hard beat at the moment.

Macklin has a title to his name i doubt if Lee or Duddy will win an European title never mind a world title

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:

Barry big balz wrote:

JamesH wrote: I don't find it confusing at all, its a technicality exploited by some fighters to advance their careers. Good for them. Certainly doesn't make them British. If the rules say its ok...

Thats the way i see it too, everyone knows its good to be irish in the boxing buisness and fighting for a british title will get you on sky and that means your into at least a couple million viewers livingrooms in the uk (great exposure).Its just sometimes when you see a fight call himself irish after one fight then call himself english in another fighter i lose a little bit of repect for them.... Nothing wrong with being british i have froch only 2nd to abraham to win the super 6 so dont get this rant twisted.

are you talking about macklin? because i have heard him say that several times that he is english 1 day then irish when he fights over there

I've never heard Macklin say this. He calls Brum home but says he is Irish - I have never heard him say he was English or British.

On that issue - I couldn't really give a flying Seany McBride if a fighter is Irish, English or Namibian - however, if a fighter states that he is one nationality then that should be respected. If a French Moroccan says he is Moroccan not French then thats cools with me - if a fella from East Belfast says he is British not Irish that is cool with me but also if a fella born in Glasgow, Manchester, London or Armagh says he is Irish and not British then that should equally be respected. Its not hard really is it!

slapbangwhallop wrote:I've never heard Macklin say this. He calls Brum home but says he is Irish - I have never heard him say he was English or British.

On that issue - I couldn't really give a flying Seany McBride if a fighter is Irish, English or Namibian - however, if a fighter states that he is one nationality then that should be respected. If a French Moroccan says he is Moroccan not French then thats cools with me - if a fella from East Belfast says he is British not Irish that is cool with me but also if a fella born in Glasgow, Manchester, London or Armagh says he is Irish and not British then that should equally be respected. Its not hard really is it!

In that case, I'm Irish.

There was a fella who was born in Paris but his parents were Algerian.
He grew up in an area with a huge Algerian population and spent most of his school holidays in Algeria with cousins.
He actually spent so much time there that he excelled an extremely difficult native Alegerian field sport and actually represented his father's home town in the sport at a very high level, meaning he flew over and back to play right up to the age of 21.
He possessed an Algerian passport.
When he started to box profesionally, it would have been career suicide to ignore the huge French and Parisian market so he conveniently enjoyed the best of both worlds, boxing for a French title but showing up on Algerian TV, fighting in Algeria and carrying the Algerian flag around after fights sometimes.
Of course, he wasn't allowed to call himself Algerian; a few internet legends decided he was French.

Asterix wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:I've never heard Macklin say this. He calls Brum home but says he is Irish - I have never heard him say he was English or British.

On that issue - I couldn't really give a flying Seany McBride if a fighter is Irish, English or Namibian - however, if a fighter states that he is one nationality then that should be respected. If a French Moroccan says he is Moroccan not French then thats cools with me - if a fella from East Belfast says he is British not Irish that is cool with me but also if a fella born in Glasgow, Manchester, London or Armagh says he is Irish and not British then that should equally be respected. Its not hard really is it!

In that case, I'm Irish.

If you really mean it then fair enough - somehow I doubt, it but I wont put the boot into you because you've shown how you act when gall has the gall to have the craic with you!

slapbangwhallop wrote:

Asterix wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:I've never heard Macklin say this. He calls Brum home but says he is Irish - I have never heard him say he was English or British.

On that issue - I couldn't really give a flying Seany McBride if a fighter is Irish, English or Namibian - however, if a fighter states that he is one nationality then that should be respected. If a French Moroccan says he is Moroccan not French then thats cools with me - if a fella from East Belfast says he is British not Irish that is cool with me but also if a fella born in Glasgow, Manchester, London or Armagh says he is Irish and not British then that should equally be respected. Its not hard really is it!

In that case, I'm Irish.

If you really mean it then fair enough - somehow I doubt, it but I wont put the boot into you because you've shown how you act when gall has the gall to have the craic with you!

It's ridiculous for me to say I'm Irish, because I'm not. You don't choose which nationality you are. I completely disagree with your viewpoint.