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A pretty entertaining undercard, thats cool- it's the Heavyweight title fight that sells the show, of course.

Thoughts - Randall V Thorpe - probably a win for Randall, but who knows - Thorpe might be keen to avoid this beaing defeat number 100!

Gonzalez V Ancliffe- points win for Gonzales.

Dilks V Drake- I'm sure Drake will give a good account, but probably a win for Dilks- although it looks like Drake has a good KO punch.

McDonagh V Sebire - Well matched fight -could go points either way. Probably a close win to McDonagh.

Jamie Moore V alphabet - Surely a comfortable comeback win by stoppage.

10x3 middleweight Jamie Moore 32(23)-4(3)-0 vs Sergey Khomitski 21(8)-7(1)-1

Thats not a bad fight IMO, ok its a likely win for Moore but he's fought good blokes (and lost to them) and only been stopped once, by the big-hitting Golovkin.

Adamu vs Groves is the only undercard fight that appeals to me. I can't wait for the main event.

I thought Hayemaker was revolutinising boxing. allegedly would be embarassed by that undercard for a PPV fight and hed be getting criticised alot more than Hayemaker

lefthook82 wrote:I thought Hayemaker was revolutinising boxing. allegedly would be embarassed by that undercard for a PPV fight and hed be getting criticised alot more than Hayemaker

x2 - its a feckin joke of an undercard. Exactly what happened to the Hayemaker revolution???

Terrible undercard for a PPV. You have to give Warren credit. When he puts on a PPV, he gives a good undercard, with fights that could headline seperate shows, such as Mitchell vs Prescott etc.

Theres far too many guys sertting up a PPV with no undrrcard.

MatthewS wrote:10x3 middleweight Jamie Moore 32(23)-4(3)-0 vs Sergey Khomitski 21(8)-7(1)-1

Thats not a bad fight IMO, ok its a likely win for Moore but he's fought good blokes (and lost to them) and only been stopped once, by the big-hitting Golovkin.

One paper, it's "not a bad fight", but unfortunatly these Eastern Europeans often are not positive in the ring, and usually it ends in stoppage.

I can see Moore ending it in 3 rounds with body shots.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:I thought Hayemaker was revolutinising boxing. allegedly would be embarassed by that undercard for a PPV fight and hed be getting criticised alot more than Hayemaker

x2 - its a feckin joke of an undercard. Exactly what happened to the Hayemaker revolution???

x3

slapbangwhallop wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:I thought Hayemaker was revolutinising boxing. allegedly would be embarassed by that undercard for a PPV fight and hed be getting criticised alot more than Hayemaker

x2 - its a feckin joke of an undercard. Exactly what happened to the Hayemaker revolution???

It went with the death of Setanta.

The Main Event better hold more intrigue in reality then it does on paper thats all i'm saying

whicker wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:I thought Hayemaker was revolutinising boxing. allegedly would be embarassed by that undercard for a PPV fight and hed be getting criticised alot more than Hayemaker

x2 - its a feckin joke of an undercard. Exactly what happened to the Hayemaker revolution???

It went with the death of Setanta.

But surely should have been ressurected with Sky Box Office.Its their show(or is it?),The undercard is crap,and the funds must be in place,tickets went like hot cakes.They havent even tried,they knew they had virtually sold out before even announcing the undercard.There was a big thread about it a while ago.

Jab and Move wrote:Terrible undercard for a PPV. You have to give Warren credit. When he puts on a PPV, he gives a good undercard, with fights that could headline seperate shows, such as Mitchell vs Prescott etc.

Theres far too many guys sertting up a PPV with no undrrcard.

Disagree with that... when was the last time Warren had this prestigious of a main event? Haye hasnt put this on solely for our benefit, he needs to be paid, and paid correctly... I dont reckon he will take a promoters and a fighters pay (of course he will be on more than if he were just the fighter but i dont reckon he will short others, I could be wrong)

Last time Warren had a big card like this is arguably the Hatton vs Tszyu card

Ricky Hatton W Kostya Tszyu RTD 11 12x3
Joshua Okine W David Barnes TKO 12 12x3
Danny Williams W Zoltan Petranyi TKO 3 8x3
Wayne Alexander W Christian Bladt KO 5 8x3
Enzo Maccarinelli W Roman Bugaj TKO 1 8x3
Matthew Hall W Matt Scriven TKO 2 6x3
Ricardo Samms W Ojay Abrahams PTS 4 4x3
Darren Morgan W Dave Clarke TKO 1 4x3
Martin Rogan W Tony Booth

I'm not massively impressed by that in the context of Moore, Groves, Lynes, and Hayes fights.

Brook-Lomax,Small-Hall,Macca Ledbev,Kevin Mitchell,Paul Smith and the Olympians on the card of Khan-Kotelink sh!ts on tonights undercard in my opinion.Yes,more attractive main event,but only for the general public and the fact of it being for a version the Heavyweight title.Khan-Kotelnik was just as appealing on paper to the true fan,because of the questions over Khan and the fact Kotelnik is a decent operator.In fact,the odds in that fight were a lot closer than they are tonight.Lets face it,most on here couldnt be bothered if they never saw Ruiz box again,its only because Haye is in the opposite corner that nobodys slagging it off.Imagine if it was one of the Klits boxing him(Ruiz),there would be uproar on hear.Im interested,but im an anorak,but,after watching Adamu,Ajose and Ruiz for years,nothing will convince me this is a good undercard.Small-Hall had us all divided,and there were loads of unscheduled fights in the arena

I bet the purse for the mains was less, allowing the undercard more room... like I said the last show Warren had that had a main even this big was before Khan turned pro

once upon a time haye came out with the words 'needless PPV's' as a dig at w@rren etc.. now, im not knocking team hayemaker, and the heavyweight championship of the world is a good call for PPV, however, if the haye fight had fallen through, where would we be?

people would already have invested in the PPV, the undercard is not strong enough to warrant PPV status (not in anyones wildest dreams!!)

so where would we be??

i am of the opinion that an undercard should be good enough to hold itself if the main event falls through.

on this occasion (and im not claiming others) hayemaker have sold the public a little bit short !! ....

MatthewS wrote:I bet the purse for the mains was less, allowing the undercard more room... like I said the last show Warren had that had a main even this big was before Khan turned pro

Fair enough,Heavys get paid more.There is a lot of fingers in the pie tonight.David's purse will be all about the numbers tonight,hence him doing more chat shows than training in the last few weeks!Fwank co-promoted Lewis-Botha,and i bet he paid them more than what they are getting tonight,due to U.S t.v(which Khan-Kotelnik had...),and that was ten years ago!!P.R expert Haye,how he has gone from fighting in Huddersfield in front of 200 people to SBO in front of 22,000 is remarkable.

I dont think there is always the money for that... but there is obviously some difference in the amount Sky could pay Haye to show it as a regular broadcast and the amount he can gather in PPV sales.. it wont just be Haye who has decided to PPV this.

mickey1975 wrote:

MatthewS wrote:I bet the purse for the mains was less, allowing the undercard more room... like I said the last show Warren had that had a main even this big was before Khan turned pro

Fair enough,Heavys get paid more.There is a lot of fingers in the pie tonight.David's purse will be all about the numbers tonight,hence him doing more chat shows than training in the last few weeks!Fwank co-promoted Lewis-Botha,and i bet he paid them more than what they are getting tonight,due to U.S t.v(which Khan-Kotelnik had...),and that was ten years ago!!P.R expert Haye,how he has gone from fighting in Huddersfield in front of 200 people to SBO in front of 22,000 is remarkable.

Heavyweight WORLD TITLE lest we forget... still one of the biggest draws in boxing...

US tv have passed on this card... if they had backed it early, more money would have been available, we might have seen another title fight on as main support... hindsight eh?

MatthewS wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

MatthewS wrote:I bet the purse for the mains was less, allowing the undercard more room... like I said the last show Warren had that had a main even this big was before Khan turned pro

Fair enough,Heavys get paid more.There is a lot of fingers in the pie tonight.David's purse will be all about the numbers tonight,hence him doing more chat shows than training in the last few weeks!Fwank co-promoted Lewis-Botha,and i bet he paid them more than what they are getting tonight,due to U.S t.v(which Khan-Kotelnik had...),and that was ten years ago!!P.R expert Haye,how he has gone from fighting in Huddersfield in front of 200 people to SBO in front of 22,000 is remarkable.

Heavyweight WORLD TITLE lest we forget... still one of the biggest draws in boxing...

US tv have passed on this card... if they had backed it early, more money would have been available, we might have seen another title fight on as main support... hindsight eh?

It should be the biggest crown in WORLD sport.But when it the fecking "quiet man" fighting for it again,it loses its appeal.America are crying out for a decent heavy,and they dont want it,tells you something,mate

aye, Ruiz is not a draw anymore for US telly, not even Golden Boy can get HBO to sign the fight... hopefully, the fight is exciting, and Haye becomes a commodity on US tv for his next fight

MatthewS wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

MatthewS wrote:I bet the purse for the mains was less, allowing the undercard more room... like I said the last show Warren had that had a main even this big was before Khan turned pro

Fair enough,Heavys get paid more.There is a lot of fingers in the pie tonight.David's purse will be all about the numbers tonight,hence him doing more chat shows than training in the last few weeks!Fwank co-promoted Lewis-Botha,and i bet he paid them more than what they are getting tonight,due to U.S t.v(which Khan-Kotelnik had...),and that was ten years ago!!P.R expert Haye,how he has gone from fighting in Huddersfield in front of 200 people to SBO in front of 22,000 is remarkable.

Heavyweight WORLD TITLE lest we forget... still one of the biggest draws in boxing...

US tv have passed on this card... if they had backed it early, more money would have been available, we might have seen another title fight on as main support... hindsight eh?

Its great to watch a HW WT fight thats not either in the US or in some boring atmospheric German town....

Looking forward to this 1

Oluguson vs Lynes should be a cracker as should Adamu vs Groves. Seems to be a very good card!

I ordered it anyway. So good to have a friend who loves the sport as much as I do. £7.50 for that sucky undercard is alot more palatable then £15

alexpaterson wrote:Oluguson vs Lynes should be a cracker as should Adamu vs Groves. Seems to be a very good card!

Are you taking the P*ss!!!!!

We are talking about a show covering the Heavyweight Championship Of The World - an event which does not happen to often in this country - its a chance for British Boxing to showcase itself.

What are we faced with instead - please tell me you are not being serious.

Yes I have paid for the main event - yes I really want David Haye to win - but for f*ck sake myself and Rhino having a scrap on the undercard would be more entertaining - that is of course if I held him up for a few rounds. ;;-)

Seriously sh*t undercard when put into the context of being such a prestigious event.

lefthook82 wrote:I ordered it anyway. So good to have a friend who loves the sport as much as I do. £7.50 for that sucky undercard is alot more palatable then £15

Their looking for €22 over here (£19.52)