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Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 10:30
by whicker
sky didn't even bother to interview him!

It's a shame that he is so "low profile"- he has won every one of his fights, at what point are people going to be "noticing" him.

BBC just dismissed him as "From Nigeria." This is a guy who won the British title, no?

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 10:31
by 15829
he was impressive last night

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 10:36
by whicker
Yeah, sky seemed to focus on the fact that Lynes lost, rather than that Olusegun won (if that makes sense?)

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 10:39
by 15829
yeah i noticed that they interviewed lynes and not olusegun thought it was bit strange, would he be eligible to fight for the european title

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 11:00
by stujones
diggler wrote:yeah i noticed that they interviewed lynes and not olusegun thought it was bit strange, would he be eligible to fight for the european title
He should be now.... he surely has a British passport now given that he won the title, unless the reason why he vacated was based on some issues only found out after by the BBBoC which means he is illegable. Its odd he isn't mentioned as a mandatory at all.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 13:28
by alexpaterson
I wasnt overly impressed with him. He obvisioly has natural ability but has some very bad habits, his hands were to low (if he is going to keep his right hand down at least put your shoulder up). His body work was good and he varied nicely to the head but he is still some way off world level

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 04 Apr 2010, 14:57
by bobthejob
Hes got no respect cus he's boring

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 08:43
by iwz678
Firstly they talked to Lynes because there was an obvious problem with why the fight had to be stopped, and secondly Olusegun doesnt get noticed because he has no fanbase and he's not that great to watch. He's a decent enough boxer but the guy has absolutley zero popularity.

Jim Watt said in commentary the only way he will fight for a world title is by becoming a mandatory and that fight would have to be away from home coz he's got no promoter.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 08:49
by Autobarn
there's no way he'll get a shot at khan or devon alexander. ian darke put it best when he put it that if you showed the video of olusegun v lynes to an american TV executive, they wouldn't jump to showcase olusegun.

he seems fit and strong but his style of looping and swinging won't take him above domestic level. olusegun simply does not have an attractive enough style to get better than big fight undercards or FFN main events.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 09:55
by Dirk Kelly
bobthejob wrote:Hes got no respect cus he's boring
Fair assessment

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 10:09
by Autobarn
weird thread, coming after such a crap fight!

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 12:57
by whicker
iwz678 wrote:Firstly they talked to Lynes because there was an obvious problem with why the fight had to be stopped
Yes, but they could have spoken to him as well?

I know that there is the "popularity" aspect, and interviews are part of hyping future fights etc- but even so- this IS meant to be a sports channel, surely interviewing the winner of a title fight is relevant?

Also, one leads to the other- had they interviewed him, that would have added to his popularity a bit- people like to "get to know" a fighter etc.

Focusing on a fighter because he is popular (and igoring talented by less popular fighters) is coming close to WWE mentality.

For sure, it's been happening in boxing for years, Hatton, Bruno etc.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 12:59
by whicker
Autobarn wrote:weird thread, coming after such a crap fight!

Yes, but there have been other, equally crap fights on Sky and they have still been happy to chat to the winners etc.

Olusegun won, after all, and he IS a good and successful boxer.

I'd much rather hear what he has to say than some of the numpties that Friday fight night has showcased over the last year.

I mean- if Sky's policy was to say "Well, it wasn't a good fight, lets just move quickly on" then their show would often be finishing early!

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 15:38
by Autobarn
i see your point. but olusegun has been looking rubbish ever since the gary reid fight.

i bet john murray would have chopped down gary reid inside 5 rounds. that's what a like about murray (and jamie moore). no-nonsense fighter. whereas olusegun, well there is some nonsense. the bolo punching, the winding up on shots, the trying to look cool stuff. i think jim watt put it best: (something like) "just the quality boxing, thanks."

olusegun seems to be faffing about a lot, in there. i don't really rate his performances very highly vs nigel wright and colin lynes. i keep thinking he drew with wright (1st fight), even though he didn't it turns out.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 15:42
by glahn
Decent but boring fighter. Euro level at best I reckon, unless he's been holding a lot back in the fights I've seen him in. Which I doubt.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 15:45
by MrBoxingUK2
diggler wrote:he was impressive last night
impressive? :shame: far from it!

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 15:50
by nh1
whicker wrote:
Autobarn wrote:weird thread, coming after such a crap fight!

Yes, but there have been other, equally crap fights on Sky and they have still been happy to chat to the winners etc.

Olusegun won, after all, and he IS a good and successful boxer.

I'd much rather hear what he has to say than some of the numpties that Friday fight night has showcased over the last year.

I mean- if Sky's policy was to say "Well, it wasn't a good fight, lets just move quickly on" then their show would often be finishing early!
True: Lee 'anti-boxing' Haskins is *FAR* worse. And then there's Anthony Small's recent exploits...

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 18:25
by rob12344
Autobarn wrote:i see your point. but olusegun has been looking rubbish ever since the gary reid fight.

i bet john murray would have chopped down gary reid inside 5 rounds. that's what a like about murray (and jamie moore). no-nonsense fighter. whereas olusegun, well there is some nonsense. the bolo punching, the winding up on shots, the trying to look cool stuff. i think jim watt put it best: (something like) "just the quality boxing, thanks."

olusegun seems to be faffing about a lot, in there. i don't really rate his performances very highly vs nigel wright and colin lynes. i keep thinking he drew with wright (1st fight), even though he didn't it turns out.

Olusegun is effective at what he does. He won the fight easily against Lynes. Whether or not he is exciting, we can't deny he is effective.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 07 Apr 2010, 16:08
by Adamj1987
i picked lynes ahread of time but ajose handleled him well

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 06:47
by Bomber 1
I think it's a fair point, The guy does deserve a little more respect!!! I understand he has no fan base BUT just admire the guys skills cos to me they demand respect on there own... :TU:

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 12:53
by iwz678
Bomber 1 wrote:I think it's a fair point, The guy does deserve a little more respect!!! I understand he has no fan base BUT just admire the guys skills cos to me they demand respect on there own... :TU:
but he dont show the skills often enough in his fights, he can box one round beautifully and then he looks like a complete novice. i just dont think the guy has much going for him.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 08 Apr 2010, 22:16
by whicker
Bomber 1 wrote:I think it's a fair point, The guy does deserve a little more respect!!! I understand he has no fan base BUT just admire the guys skills cos to me they demand respect on there own... :TU:
I agree- also, with a bit of media coverage, he can build a fan base.

Not even interviewing him doesn't help that.

And BBC's entire coverage:

"Earlier in the evening, Briton George Groves stopped Ghana's Charles Adamu in the sixth round to win the Commonwealth super-middleweight title.

Colin Lynes failed to make it a successful British double after being counted out in the eighth round of his Commonwealth light-welterweight title challenge against Ajose Olusegan of Nigeria. "


The focus (of that brief summary- all BBC online could offer) being on Lynes "failure to make it a British double" is a bit one sided. Lets not forget that both Adamu and Olusegan were the defending champions.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 09:33
by 15829
and olusegun was a former british champion

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 10:01
by leforge
He would beat daws! He should fight mccloskey for euro.

Re: Olusegun needs more respect.

Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 10:06
by DIRT SUGAR
He needs to be more active and exciting I'd say. He hardly set the world alight against Lynes did he?