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How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 05:01
by Adamj1987
i mean he was a 2 weight titleist and undefeated with every one KO'd will he become one of these what if legends?


all replys to be refered to his boxing career, nothing about his out the ring stuff

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 07:56
by enrique
27 KO's in 27 fights but who did he beat? Not a single big name.

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 10:26
by SaadOffTheDeck
Footnote, he did less than Ibeabuchi. Mosquera was a decent fighter, but most hard core fans don't know who he is. I'm sure his record will get him romanticized like any career that is cut short. But as it passes through time, he will be a guy who fought a bunch of people that nobody has ever heard of.

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 11:42
by Diamond WEAPON
Well as with anyone who's prime gets cut short you could imagine the potential and he appeared to have some major upside. He looked every bit of world class against DeMarco as he showed some of his rarely seen boxing/defensive skills along with his offensive assault. He appeared to be improving from his more wild younger form and it would have been great to see him fight the top LWWs.

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 15:22
by Crease
He will be classified under:
"WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN"
:TU:

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 15:45
by BoxBuzz
Crease wrote:He will be classified under:
"WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN"
:TU:


......and perhaps allowed to share a cell with Ike? Of course it would take some international diplomacy to arrange it.

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 20:22
by Diamond WEAPON
I just realized something. Valero's legacy could very well change if Antonio DeMarco, his last opponent, were to recover from the defeat at Valero's hands and take over LW, which wouldn't necessarily surprise me considering Guzman and Funeka are both likely never returning, Valero is gone, and we're left with an old Marquez, a possibly worn and overweight Diaz, the raw Katsidis, tough but somewhat fragile Guerrero, and Humberto Soto, who dislikes boxers with movement.

I'd say Azumah Nelson's fture success helped Salvador Sanches' legacy a bit.

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 21:27
by SaadOffTheDeck
DeMarco is pretty awful, I wouldn't hold my breath there.

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 22:30
by giacomino
Valero had great talent but, for the most part, was not tested because of extremely soft matchmaking. Some of his "title" opposition was downright ludicrous. Reminded me of Linares, who eventually got KO'd. However, I would have loved to see what he would have done against a top lt. welterweight like Bradley or Manny P

Re: How will history remember valero - as a boxer

Posted: 25 Apr 2010, 22:48
by Neri
Crease wrote:He will be classified under:
"WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN"
:TU:
I agree. We will never know how far he would have went in his boxing career. He was definitely on the cusp of featuring in some really big fights but sadly that was the end of it. Nobody on his record stands out and in the modern boxing world and its plethora of world titles even Valero's two weight world champion claim doesn't hold too much weight.

His knockout streak was impressive and exciting but he simply can't be mentioned with the greats of the sport and he will never be a hall of famer.

As Crease said it's a case of "What might have been", something we can say of many fighters. I do find myself thinking that with regards to Darren Sutherland's career.