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jizzle wrote:Watching the Froch/Kessler fight made me wish that there were another three rounds to go...

I know the safety element (and that TV prefers 12) but would people like to a return of these rounds?

Thoughts on a postcard.

NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
What I'm saying is it's dangerous, 12 rounds, 36 minutes, it should be enough time to each competitor to do enough to win. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen fights, or particular 12 round fights and thought.......fck me......15 years ago there'd have been 3 more rounds, an shuddered at it.

AntonS wrote:Many of the guys that fought 15 rounds are punch drunk these days

Carlos-Wigan wrote:No - and I will go one further, I think 10 rounds is a good championship distance. It is a few countries
around the world whose national belt is over 12 rounds. I think the UK, NZ, South Africa and the USBA are
the only national sanctioning bodies that have 12 rounds fights these days. One of the best things the
WBC ever did for boxing is implement 12 round championship distance.

You'll get more action in a 10 rounder and if you look at cards these days - how many time do you see
an eight rounder which was so common just 15 years ago - now most undercard fights are 4/6 rounders.
Four rounders were for novices not that long ago whereas now you even get championship calibre fighters
taking part in them.

One thing boxing has learnt from MMA (I hope...) is that 'less is more'

Godfather of Dole wrote:The reduction by three rounds wasn't a carefully thought out move designed to make the sport safer, it was a knee jerk reaction to a ring fatality. As mentioned, 15 round fights were fought at a much slower pace, the reduction to 12 rounds meant that increasingly fitter athletes can now cram more punches into a shorter time period. So you can make the claim that even more punishment is now given out over an intense period.

As for guys being more punch drunk back then. Is this solely down to the fifteen round championship distance, or the fact that they fought more often, against a higher level of opposition, in most cases, and often without a long three month recuperation period between fights? Was Howard Clarke sercretly fighting 15 rounders behind closed doors?

If we reduce to ten round we may as well call it a day and start to follow another sport. That is the worst suggestion I've ever heard, no offence to ya Carlos!

We can't sit here blabbering about protecting the fighters by reducing rounds then post, 'Check out this fight, over a 1000 punches thrown over 12 rounds, F yeah!'

Godfather of Dole wrote:The reduction by three rounds wasn't a carefully thought out move designed to make the sport safer, it was a knee jerk reaction to a ring fatality. As mentioned, 15 round fights were fought at a much slower pace, the reduction to 12 rounds meant that increasingly fitter athletes can now cram more punches into a shorter time period. So you can make the claim that even more punishment is now given out over an intense period.

As for guys being more punch drunk back then. Is this solely down to the fifteen round championship distance, or the fact that they fought more often, against a higher level of opposition, in most cases, and often without a long three month recuperation period between fights? Was Howard Clarke sercretly fighting 15 rounders behind closed doors?

If we reduce to ten round we may as well call it a day and start to follow another sport. That is the worst suggestion I've ever heard, no offence to ya Carlos!

We can't sit here blabbering about protecting the fighters by reducing rounds then post, 'Check out this fight, over a 1000 punches thrown over 12 rounds, F yeah!'

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Godfather of Dole wrote:

Asterix wrote:After looking at the championship boxer's faces at post fight interviews, I would really not like 15 rounds to come back to boxing. It's dangerous enough at 12 rounds, but to add another 3, fatigued, rounds is not a good thought for me. A boxer is at his most vulnerable when he is fatigued (as well as dehydrated).

Ali didn't have many marks on his face after the 15 rounds with George Chuvalo but was said to be pissing blood after allowing George to punch his ribs inside. Perhaps our criteria for deciding these things should be a bit more advance than, "Ouch! That looks sore!"

The problem wasn't the 15 rounds, it was the whole approach to the weight, same day weigh ins, and the lack of medical adequate facilities.

McClellan was relatively unmarked when he broke down. A reddening on the temples, sure, but Benn looked the worse for wear.

Godfather of Dole wrote:Tua-Ike had one of the highest outputs in recent times but I recall that both Tua and Ike looked relatively unmarked. I guess the fight didn't do them any damage whatsoever and we'd have all welcomed another three rounds?

Godfather of Dole wrote:
We'll have to agree to differ. I'd have them fighting over 15 rounds with spiked gloves and one of those revolving floors from Flash Gordon.