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Surely Froch is going to take massive shots from Abraham, who will have no problem walking through Frochs shots to get his own off. The accuracy and power that WILL be landing directly on the chin of Froch is frightening to imagine.

I agree.He took some massive bombs off of Kessler, and nearly went in the 8th, and whilst Kessler is a stiff puncher, Abrahams is a massive puncher.Can see him Knocking Froch out-amybe a reason why he wants out of the tournament?

I certainly have some doubt!

big lennox wrote:I agree.He took some massive bombs off of Kessler, and nearly went in the 8th, and whilst Kessler is a stiff puncher, Abrahams is a massive puncher.Can see him Knocking Froch out-amybe a reason why he wants out of the tournament?

I wouldn't be surprised. he has to know that Abraham is no joke and will come looking for the KO. He really is a vicious puncher and with Frochs style, I would be hoping an ambulance would be on standby.

Froch really has very little chance of beating Abraham dur to the styles involved. No matter where the fight takes place, I fancy Abraham to absolutely bomb him out cold.

Froch has taken on all comers though, so I'm pretty sure he'll take on Abraham. If he doesn't, I wouldn't be too hard on him.

big lennox wrote:I agree.He took some massive bombs off of Kessler, and nearly went in the 8th, and whilst Kessler is a stiff puncher, Abrahams is a massive puncher.Can see him Knocking Froch out-amybe a reason why he wants out of the tournament?

people keep saying that kessler nearly dropped froch in the 8th but i dont see it myself, froch's legs still seemed pretty steady to me...

Jesus wrote:

big lennox wrote:I agree.He took some massive bombs off of Kessler, and nearly went in the 8th, and whilst Kessler is a stiff puncher, Abrahams is a massive puncher.Can see him Knocking Froch out-amybe a reason why he wants out of the tournament?

people keep saying that kessler nearly dropped froch in the 8th but i dont see it myself, froch's legs still seemed pretty steady to me...

On the replay it didn't look that bad in fairness. Dirrell had him going at one stage though.

As great as Froch's chin is, he's already taken some huge shots in his pro career. You can go back to the fights he had with guys like Adamu, Kocharyan and Davtyan and see Froch sucking up massive whacks flush on the chin. That has then continued through to the present day. For me, he's got one of the best chins I've seen in British boxing, but it's not always necessarily a good thing. Froch seems to almost rely on it bailing him out of trouble at times. Eventually all those hard shots are going to catch up with him, especially now he's into his 30s. A super strong puncher like Abraham could be the guy to make the breakthrough :(

Agreed that if he takes too many clean shots from Abraham he will get KTFO imo his chin will not hold up forever. I think he really has to change his style agaisnt Abraham because he has the tools to beat him on points quite easily. Build up the standard points lead early on then when abraham starts firing from 8 onwards he needs to use his defence/develop a defence that isnt hands down. Whilst Abraham goes swingin hit him hard with shots that will make him think twice about coming in so wildly. This will frustrate Abraham and could leave him more open i dont know if Abrahams chin is as solid at 168 agaisnt heavy punchers like Froch it is yet to be seen but he was arguably put down twice by Dirrell. Froch has to change to beat him though if he fought like he did against Kessler it ends up 50/50 both have massive power and decent chins and whoevers begins to show cracks will lose. .

wrimc wrote:Agreed that if he takes too many clean shots from Abraham he will get KTFO imo his chin will not hold up forever. I think he really has to change his style agaisnt Abraham because he has the tools to beat him on points quite easily. Build up the standard points lead early on then when abraham starts firing from 8 onwards he needs to use his defence/develop a defence that isnt hands down. Whilst Abraham goes swingin hit him hard with shots that will make him think twice about coming in so wildly. This will frustrate Abraham and could leave him more open i dont know if Abrahams chin is as solid at 168 agaisnt heavy punchers like Froch it is yet to be seen but he was arguably put down twice by Dirrell. Froch has to change to beat him though if he fought like he did against Kessler it ends up 50/50 both have massive power and decent chins and whoevers begins to show cracks will lose. .

Abraham is the much bigger puncher.Froch's power really hasnt carried into world class.His only knockdowns were against Taylor,who he wore down,whilst Abraham knocked him cold

mickey1975 wrote:

wrimc wrote:Agreed that if he takes too many clean shots from Abraham he will get KTFO imo his chin will not hold up forever. I think he really has to change his style agaisnt Abraham because he has the tools to beat him on points quite easily. Build up the standard points lead early on then when abraham starts firing from 8 onwards he needs to use his defence/develop a defence that isnt hands down. Whilst Abraham goes swingin hit him hard with shots that will make him think twice about coming in so wildly. This will frustrate Abraham and could leave him more open i dont know if Abrahams chin is as solid at 168 agaisnt heavy punchers like Froch it is yet to be seen but he was arguably put down twice by Dirrell. Froch has to change to beat him though if he fought like he did against Kessler it ends up 50/50 both have massive power and decent chins and whoevers begins to show cracks will lose. .

Abraham is the much bigger puncher.Froch's power really hasnt carried into world class.His only knockdowns were against Taylor,who he wore down,whilst Abraham knocked him cold

To say Frochs power hasnt carried into world class is a bit unfair Pascal and Kessler both have very strong chins and Dirrell was impossible to catch. Abrahams power isnt as proven at the weight either he has done exactly the same as Froch ko Taylor in the 12th. We also havent seen Abraham take shots from a powerful SMW and has been knocked down already by the lighter punching Dirrell.

wrimc wrote: To say Frochs power hasnt carried into world class is a bit unfair Pascal and Kessler both have very strong chins and Dirrell was impossible to catch. Abrahams power isnt as proven at the weight either he has done exactly the same as Froch ko Taylor in the 12th. We also havent seen Abraham take shots from a powerful SMW and has been knocked down already by the lighter punching Dirrell.

Good points, but to be fair to Abraham he did fight for 12 carrying a broken jaw by Miranda.

His chin may not be as strong as Carls, but he is tough & resilient and his defence is far superior to Carl's.

people saying that froch is scared of abraham are idiots. froch is scared of no man! the fight was meant to be in nottingham! froch has no chance of gettin a decision in germany

MrBoxingUK2 wrote:people saying that froch is scared of abraham are idiots. froch is scared of no man! the fight was meant to be in nottingham! froch has no chance of gettin a decision in germany

Froch isn't scared now, but once a right hand bounces off his chin, you'll see a look of terror on his face before he gets sparked unconscious.

One competitive loss in the other fellas home town and suddenly Froch is scared and rubbish???
Froch has certainly earned his spurs and it doesn't look like AA is the second coming of Ali

Coco wrote:One competitive loss in the other fellas home town and suddenly Froch is scared and rubbish???
Froch has certainly earned his spurs and it doesn't look like AA is the second coming of Ali

well said coco.
froch has a good chance in this fight.

I give Froch a chance against AA, it's gonna be a tear up while it lasts.

On a similar note though, is there any doubt that Calzaghe would have destroyed Froch??

Can't be many out there now who share Froch's confidence that he would have beaten JC.

depends the JC that got dropped by Jones could have got ko'd if it were froch throwing that punch..who knows....its all ifs buts maybes.

Mensa07 wrote:I give Froch a chance against AA, it's gonna be a tear up while it lasts.

On a similar note though, is there any doubt that Calzaghe would have destroyed Froch??

Can't be many out there now who share Froch's confidence that he would have beaten JC.

It puts JC's performance against Kessler into perspective.
i never liked Calzaghe but he would of stopped Froch based on saturdays performance.
If Froch thinks hes going to stand there scratching his nuts with AA in front of him it will be lights out and maybe Frochs last fight.
Where can Froch go if he loses to AA??

Its a strange one this, i kind of feel sorry for Froch that he has to get in there with Abraham (otherwise duck out of the tournament). Abraham is a very big ask for Froch, his style is all wrong for him. I dont see Froch having much success penetrating that tight, high guard Abraham carries for 12 rounds, while Abraham on the other hand is sure to be getting his shots off, and likely more often than he's used too. The man's a massive puncher and no matter how gpood Froch's chin is, he wont be able to take too many of Abrahams bombs.

Froch will beat ABS and I would not be surprised to see a shut out.

Froch has great reach and hits harder than Dirrell who had ABS hesitant and unsure of what to do.

ABS will not have been hot as hard as Froch will hit him.

Bad style matchup for Froch, but surely it's not a forgone conclusion that AA wins. Froch is going to need to stay at a distance and try to outbox and outwork AA. This is going to be very difficult because Froch isn't exactly the best technical boxer and he has a tendency to abandon any sort of disciplined game plan to trade power punches.

There is no doubt AA does more damage when he lands his shots and Froch's hands down give and take style will lead to disaster, unless he makes some changes. I don't really see AA getting hurt badly or stopped in this one. His chin is good and unlike Froch his defense is pretty good as well. Froch also doesn't possess big KO power at this level. I think Froch can win, but he will have to show a different Carl Froch than he every has, otherwise he is going to fall victim to a bad styles matchup and get beaten.

The Special One wrote:Froch will beat ABS and I would not be surprised to see a shut out.

You are special aren't you.

froch certainly is at risk vs the power shots of abraham.

but he has a lot of size and reach on AA. froch is looking big at the weight, whereas AA used to be a middleweight title holder, and a stocky (if weight weakened) one at that.

also, froch fights for the full 12, while AA fights in spurts.

i could see froch backing him up, working him over when he goes into the shell or tries to pause for breath. then again, AA has a huge punch and could maybe make froch vanish.

froch can't keep taking the shots like he has been. it could be an amazing fight because each must have the win, it's their last chance. the stakes are high, hence all the wheeling and dealing and bollox going on behind the scenes. when the fighters are left to it, it could be fantastic.

it will be interesting to see how froch respnds from this defeat. will he go into denial, convince himself he can keep winning this rugged and reckless way? will he make adjustments, and follow a sensible plan?

whats all this abraham massive puncher about??? because he ko'd taylor damaged goods & a man on the ground
kessler is a bigger puncher.

hurlock wrote:whats all this abraham massive puncher about??? because he ko'd taylor damaged goods & a man on the ground
kessler is a bigger puncher.

worst post ever on this forum mate.