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The language Barrier
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 17:45
by whicker
Reading Ian McNeilly's (very good) article, I feel this might be an issue.
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2010/woodho ... eplacement
The issue- fighters and staff (referee, matchmaker, doctor) etc not being able to understand each other.
Why is it a potential issue? Well, surely a referee must need to be able to make his intentions clear- warnings, directions, even just asking a fighter if he is OK etc. And likewise, if a fighter has a query, objection or problem (injury etc) he should be able to communicate that.
Or, is there an accepted system of signs that do the same function well enough.
Secondly, what about medical care? In (very rare) cases, a boxer may need to be given serious and immediate medical care. Is there a danger that the language barrier might hinder communiction (ie, he can't say whats wrong- or isn't able to understand and follow vital instructions.)
Or is it an unreasonable point?
Personannly, I DO feel this is an issue. Persons who may, potentially, require medical care should not be in a position where lack of a common language hinders the health.
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 18:39
by whicker
Godfather of Dole wrote:Qué?
The issue was that (to quite the article) "He tried to explain to referee Lyson what the matter was but his English was only slightly better than the arbiter’s Bulgarian"
Which leads to the question - should there be a translator available in case of issues and injuries etc.
Sounds like in this instance there was an injury, but due to language barrier problems, that was unclear.
What would happen, if for example a fighter needed to be given clear instructions, but was unable to understand them?
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 18:54
by gkt999
If you are having a foreign boxer fight on a BBBoC show the paperwork submitted to the board asks for the name of the translator (if required). If the boxer / cornerman / manager etc can not converse then the agent named on the forms is responsible for these problems.
I have found in the past that most boxers/mangers can speak reasonible english, sometimes they chose not to speak english and act daft, normally when it comes to expenses.
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 19:09
by crusader
Was ist die Bedeutung des Lebens?
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 20:09
by Asterix
Чому жопа Пердью так популярні зараз?
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 22:24
by Coco
I boxed in a foreign country, gestures are enough, usually in the amateurs referees don't speak much, they do things with hand signals
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 23:28
by m1kee50
Gabh mo leithscéal! Ní thuigim.
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 04:15
by slapbangwhallop
MatthewS wrote:Gabh mo leithscéal! Ní thuigim.
I didnt realise you were a Fenian MatthewS!
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 04:35
by m1kee50
slapbangwhallop wrote:MatthewS wrote:Gabh mo leithscéal! Ní thuigim.
I didnt realise you were a Fenian MatthewS!
unrepentant too!
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 06:48
by n1ebf
Asterix wrote:Чому жопа Пердью так популярні зараз?
carry on past these lights mate, over the next roundabout and you'll see it on your left hand side opposite Macdonald's

Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 10:15
by dondada
This is a valid question, whicker, for sure.
The ref waved it off but I'm pretty confident he didn't know what was up with Dontchev - if anything. To make it worse, Dontchev initially protested at the stoppage, implying that's not what he wanted. There was nothing else for the ref to do, really. But he could have been saying something else and the ref would have waved it off anyway.
It's obviously an issue to some extent, hence the universal verbal and physical commands in the amateur game.
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 09:09
by Jeff Thomas
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:Asterix wrote:Чому жопа Пердью так популярні зараз?
carry on past these lights mate, over the next roundabout and you'll see it on your left hand side opposite Macdonald's

What, the job centre?
Re: The language Barrier
Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 11:47
by demolitiondaley
Heghlu'meH QaQ jajvam
