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not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 17:57
by adamheight
over on ESB most are saying mitchell wins a UD.
i agree..but im sure its gonna be an epic battle. right in the heart of mitchelss stomping ground. theres a fair few ozzies in london so i hope he gets a lot of support too.
one things for sure, theres gonna be some blood
whats ur prediction?
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 18:26
by adamheight
soundkamp u think katsidis is gonna ko him eh?
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 19:01
by Asterix
I'm surprised about that. Katsidis has fought at a higher level and always been competitive. It might be difficult for Katsidis being away from home and having thousands of Brits booing him, but he has been over here before when he fought Earl, and he looked very good. Katsidis looks tight at the weight, so I do wonder if that might be an issue down the stretch. This is a fight I imagine will go beyond the halfway point.
I think Mitchell will box on the back foot, using lateral movement, trying to avoid meeting Katsidis's physicality. If Katsidis can cut off the ring well, and throw venomous body shots every round, I think he can break Mitchell down.
A cut might determine the way this fight goes. Both boxers have been cut before and I think Katsidis is especially prone to them. I'd hate to see the fight stopped on a cut, though.
50-50 fight in my eyes at the moment. Katsidis, being the underdog, might be worth a bet. Don't forget that Mitchell has shown an awesome chin so far, though.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 19:37
by ra2006
I am giving Katsidis a very good chance aswell. Mitchell is a very good fighter but I think from the view of my fellow brits on the other board they are under the opinion that it is going to be routine and then this will lead to a battle of Britain aganist Jon Murray. Remember that Mitchell has been running away from his Jon Murray for the past two years and IMO it is Jon that deserves this chance more then Mitchell.
I have a horrible feeling that Kevin will be found out, IMO his defence is suspect and as such I feel Katsidis will give that area a big test.
But sorry, I think Mitchell will win this by a late KO, but Katsidis does have a very good chance to upset the odds.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 26 Apr 2010, 22:44
by keyboard warrior
I believe Mitchell is overated by the average Brit fan. He hasn't been in the ring with someone of the calibre of a Casamayor or Diaz, let alone proved competitive at that level. This fight is a step up for Mitchell. My pick: Mitchell to outbox Katsidis and look good in the early rounds, but will be broken down and stopped mid-late.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 01:41
by toppity
Katsidis has been in with the absolute elite. He has never been dominated by them He would, if a little more cautious, hold a win over casamayor.
I may be proven wrong, but if Katsidis wins, I hope we don't get too many more visits from our UK friends claiming we overate our fighters.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 02:07
by Tinnie
Mate i love Katsidis but i think the Diaz fight was pretty close to a domination, despite what the cards looked like. That said i think that Kats has learned a tremendous amount from that peticular loss, he's proven since that he can enforce his will on those who outbox him and i dont think theres another LW that could outbang him.
I have to admit im not that familiar with Mitchell, im gonna be checking him out over the next coupla weeks. Should be a good fight.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 07:04
by Brute
Mitchell's record looks impressive until you look at how the fighters he beat went in recent fights.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 08:02
by Hounddawg
In fairness to mitchell, i've barely heard of him until this fight, so i can't rate him, but i can't see how he's the favorite, however in England fighters seem to be better fighters at home than when they fight overseas;;-)
Katsidis hasn't fought at home since 2006, so fighting in England won't bother him, he always fights in there backyard, i would like to see katsidis fight at home to see if his performance would be any better than what we get treated to already
Maybe the bookies know something we don't.
Katsidis decision close.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 08:15
by Sweet P
I havnt seen a lot of Mitchell. Looked up his record and a few fights on Youtube. Looks decent.
I predict Katsidis Ko mid rounds, I always pick Katsidis by Ko as he has awesome Power. I also think the Big crowd puts far more pressure on Mitchell to Perform and Katsisdis is used to fighting in other guys backyards.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 08:27
by Hounddawg
ben k wrote:I havnt seen a lot of Mitchell. Looked up his record and a few fights on Youtube. Looks decent.
I predict Katsidis Ko mid rounds, I always pick Katsidis by Ko as he has awesome Power. I also think the Big crowd puts far more pressure on Mitchell to Perform and Katsisdis is used to fighting in other guys backyards.
I'll have a look a liitle closer to the fight at Mitchell, is he quick, does he stand and trade, what will bother Katsidis?
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 09:12
by Asterix
Hounddawg wrote:In fairness to mitchell, i've barely heard of him until this fight, so i can't rate him, but i can't see how he's the favorite, however in England fighters seem to be better fighters at home than when they fight overseas;;-)
Katsidis hasn't fought at home since 2006, so fighting in England won't bother him, he always fights in there backyard, i would like to see katsidis fight at home to see if his performance would be any better than what we get treated to already
Maybe the bookies know something we don't.
Katsidis decision close.
In sport in general, people almost always do better at home. I don't know why you make a prediction on the fight when you haven't seen Mitchell fight before.
ben k wrote:I havnt seen a lot of Mitchell. Looked up his record and a few fights on Youtube. Looks decent.
I predict Katsidis Ko mid rounds, I always pick Katsidis by Ko as he has awesome Power. I also think the Big crowd puts far more pressure on Mitchell to Perform and Katsisdis is used to fighting in other guys backyards.
I'd be amazed if Katsidis knocks Mitchell out before the end of the 7th round. I've seen quite a few of Mitchell's fights and he has a brilliant chin. Not only that, but he's now fighting more disciplined, so will box and move to avoid getting caught with big shots.
Hounddawg wrote:I'll have a look a liitle closer to the fight at Mitchell, is he quick, does he stand and trade, what will bother Katsidis?
He has decent speed, good footwork, good power, a good engine, a brilliant chin, lots of heart and a good boxing brain. He does everything well but nothing brilliantly. He used to lack the discipline to fight according to a game plan, but corrected that against Prescott. He used to be a brawler but has developed into a good boxer, as he showed against Prescott. He can stand and trade but I don't think he will elect to against Katsidis. Mitchell's angles and footwork will be the most troublesome to Katsidis. I think Katsidis will have to cut off the ring effectively to win.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 09:19
by 15829
does anyone think there will be many australians attending
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 09:51
by Hounddawg
Asterix wrote:Hounddawg wrote:In fairness to mitchell, i've barely heard of him until this fight, so i can't rate him, but i can't see how he's the favorite, however in England fighters seem to be better fighters at home than when they fight overseas;;-)
Katsidis hasn't fought at home since 2006, so fighting in England won't bother him, he always fights in there backyard, i would like to see katsidis fight at home to see if his performance would be any better than what we get treated to already
Maybe the bookies know something we don't.
Katsidis decision close.
Asterix Wrote;In sport in general, people almost always do better at home. I don't know why you make a prediction on the fight when you haven't seen Mitchell fight before.
Because i Have seen the majority of Katsidis fights, and the calibre of opponents are worlds apart, i wouldn't take Katsidis on with Mitchells expierence at this stage, it will be a special win for mitchell if he wins.
Edit; my bad i stuffed up Asterix's quote.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 10:06
by Asterix
Hounddawg wrote:Because i Have seen the majority of Katsidis fights, and the calibre of opponents are worlds apart, i wouldn't take Katsidis on with Mitchells expierence at this stage, it will be a special win for mitchell if he wins.
Edit; my bad i stuffed up Asterix's quote.
I've predicted fights where I haven't seen one of the boxer's before, and it more often goes wrong than not. Even a quick look on YouTube will help your predictions drastically. When I was betting on boxing I made sure I had a rule not to bet on any fights where I hadn't seen both boxers fight before.
I agree with you that the question marks are on Mitchell, not on Katsidis. Warren's pretty good at getting his guys title shots at the right time. The most recent was Khan vs Kotelnik, I think.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 17:33
by Brute
adamheight wrote:over on ESB most are saying mitchell wins a UD.
i agree..but im sure its gonna be an epic battle. right in the heart of mitchelss stomping ground. theres a fair few ozzies in london so i hope he gets a lot of support too.
one things for sure, theres gonna be some blood
whats ur prediction?
The British crowd did not bother Katsidis when he stopped Earl.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 23:55
by Hounddawg
Asterix wrote:Hounddawg wrote:Because i Have seen the majority of Katsidis fights, and the calibre of opponents are worlds apart, i wouldn't take Katsidis on with Mitchells expierence at this stage, it will be a special win for mitchell if he wins.
Edit; my bad i stuffed up Asterix's quote.
I've predicted fights where I haven't seen one of the boxer's before, and it more often goes wrong than not. Even a quick look on YouTube will help your predictions drastically. When I was betting on boxing I made sure I had a rule not to bet on any fights where I hadn't seen both boxers fight before.
I agree with you that the question marks are on Mitchell, not on Katsidis. Warren's pretty good at getting his guys title shots at the right time. The most recent was Khan vs Kotelnik, I think.
I will as stated earlier take a look at him closer to the fight, i'm sure it will be a tough fight.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 30 Apr 2010, 23:22
by Sweet P
I just hope that Katsidis management can get a neuteral Ref, Ive heard Dave P@#$% might be getting the job.
There is no way a World Title fight should be fought in the Opponents back yard with a Home town Ref, It really stinks to be honest. He is the same guy that did Tszyu-Hatton!!!
If so I feel Katsidis will be fighting an uphill battle.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 30 Apr 2010, 23:48
by Brute
I doubt that it will go the distance.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 01 May 2010, 00:24
by Sweet P
Whether its goes the distance or not is irrelivent. Being a WORLD TITLE fight there should be a neutral Ref, All the other ORGs do it. The IBO do it here when Green is fighting so why wouldn't the WBO do the same.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 01 May 2010, 00:30
by Hounddawg
ben k wrote:Whether its goes the distance or not is irrelivent. Being a WORLD TITLE fight there should be a neutral Ref, All the other ORGs do it. The IBO do it here when Green is fighting so why wouldn't the WBO do the same.
Yeah i agree, and that ref that done the Kostya/Hatton fight is a goose, well at least this now has finally been explained why Mitchell is the favorite.
Can't Katsidis kick up a stink, demand a new ref or he'll boycott the fight?
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 01 May 2010, 01:07
by Sweet P
Hounddawg wrote:ben k wrote:Whether its goes the distance or not is irrelivent. Being a WORLD TITLE fight there should be a neutral Ref, All the other ORGs do it. The IBO do it here when Green is fighting so why wouldn't the WBO do the same.
Yeah i agree, and that ref that done the Kostya/Hatton fight is a goose, well at least this now has finally been explained why Mitchell is the favorite.
Can't Katsidis kick up a stink, demand a new ref or he'll boycott the fight?
I have read in the World of Boxing May edition that they have asked for a Neutral Ref. We will have to wait and see.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 01 May 2010, 01:19
by Hounddawg
ben k wrote:Hounddawg wrote:ben k wrote:Whether its goes the distance or not is irrelivent. Being a WORLD TITLE fight there should be a neutral Ref, All the other ORGs do it. The IBO do it here when Green is fighting so why wouldn't the WBO do the same.
Yeah i agree, and that ref that done the Kostya/Hatton fight is a goose, well at least this now has finally been explained why Mitchell is the favorite.
Can't Katsidis kick up a stink, demand a new ref or he'll boycott the fight?
I have read in the World of Boxing May edition that they have asked for a Neutral Ref. We will have to wait and see.
Do you buy both mags, The fist and world of boxing?
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 01 May 2010, 12:13
by Asterix
ben k wrote:I just hope that Katsidis management can get a neuteral Ref, Ive heard Dave P@#$% might be getting the job.
There is no way a World Title fight should be fought in the Opponents back yard with a Home town Ref, It really stinks to be honest. He is the same guy that did Tszyu-Hatton!!!
If so I feel Katsidis will be fighting an uphill battle.
Dave Parris is definitely biased, as far as I'm concerned. I hope he doesn't get the job.
Re: not many giving katsidis a chance against mitchell.
Posted: 01 May 2010, 16:32
by Brute
ben k wrote:Whether its goes the distance or not is irrelivent. Being a WORLD TITLE fight there should be a neutral Ref, All the other ORGs do it. The IBO do it here when Green is fighting so why wouldn't the WBO do the same.
Why is it irrelevant? If Mitchell is out cold on the canvas the referee cannot refuse to count.