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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I would significantly favor Holmes in both fights. George would have a punchers chance in his prime vs a pre-prime Holmes. Probably a bit more than that. If anybody had more heart than Holmes, I haven't seen them fight.

mugabi wrote:The 1973 Foreman would do a 2-3 round demolition job on Holmes. Likely leaving larry out for 10 on the canvas.

The Great John L wrote:

mugabi wrote:The 1973 Foreman would do a 2-3 round demolition job on Holmes. Likely leaving larry out for 10 on the canvas.

Just out of curiosity; exactly which fight in the '73 Foremans career shows us how George would have demolished Holmes? Just take a quick look at his career and find that one fight against a tall, quality, mobile defensive fighter that shows us how he would have done it.

Thanks in advance for your input.

mugabi wrote:

The Great John L wrote:

mugabi wrote:The 1973 Foreman would do a 2-3 round demolition job on Holmes. Likely leaving larry out for 10 on the canvas.

Just out of curiosity; exactly which fight in the '73 Foremans career shows us how George would have demolished Holmes? Just take a quick look at his career and find that one fight against a tall, quality, mobile defensive fighter that shows us how he would have done it.

Thanks in advance for your input.

I dont need to show one fight against "a tall, quality, mobile defensive fighter etc".....his destruction of the almost incomparably determined and durable Frazier and his bombing of a Norton who gave Ali a boxing hell for 36 rounds tells me all I need to know.

Holmes would not have been able to survive Foremans early onslaught. Thats my opinion.People may drag up Earnie Shavers name, but Foreman was no earnie shavers he had incredible combinations and strength to go with his power.

Ali pulled off an incredible feat but to this day i beleive if foreman had got a rematch in the states in 1976 he would have kayoed ali

These are just my opinions. I rate big george mk 1 very very high. I have him down as one of the three greatest HW's of all time

Exoddus wrote:Don't forget Foreman was one punch from defeat against Ron Lyle. That fight was in the balance. Great fight, but I guess George was coming off from his first loss.

mugabi wrote:When george travelled to exotic hot places like he did against Jimmy Young and Ali, his stamina let him down. Than again he also travelled to kingston jamaica, and caracas for norton. But those fights didnt go too many rounds. So it is a rounds thing and since i dont think Larry would make it out of the early rounds In my mind its moot.

The Great John L wrote:

mugabi wrote:The 1973 Foreman would do a 2-3 round demolition job on Holmes. Likely leaving larry out for 10 on the canvas.

Just out of curiosity; exactly which fight in the '73 Foremans career shows us how George would have demolished Holmes? Just take a quick look at his career and find that one fight against a tall, quality, mobile defensive fighter that shows us how he would have done it.

Thanks in advance for your input.

The Great John L wrote:

mugabi wrote:When george travelled to exotic hot places like he did against Jimmy Young and Ali, his stamina let him down. Than again he also travelled to kingston jamaica, and caracas for norton. But those fights didnt go too many rounds. So it is a rounds thing and since i dont think Larry would make it out of the early rounds In my mind its moot.

Don't you think that maybe Holmes might have moved around a little and survived a few more rounds, or are you thinking that Holmes would have stood right in front him like Frazier and Norton did?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ali had nothing on Larry when it comes to toughness. Not a thing.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

The Great John L wrote:

mugabi wrote:The 1973 Foreman would do a 2-3 round demolition job on Holmes. Likely leaving larry out for 10 on the canvas.

Just out of curiosity; exactly which fight in the '73 Foremans career shows us how George would have demolished Holmes? Just take a quick look at his career and find that one fight against a tall, quality, mobile defensive fighter that shows us how he would have done it.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Remind me again when it's your turn to explain who & when Holmes faced anyone or anything like Foreman, prior to Tyson, which showed us he would have, "boxed the ears off" Foreman?

Cheers

ThatOne wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ali had nothing on Larry when it comes to toughness. Not a thing.

Here's a quote from a gentleman who went fifty four rounds with both of them:

Frank: Who was stronger, Muhammad Ali or Larry Holmes?

Norton: Oh Ali definetly, Ali was very strong but because he wasn't a one punch KO artist it is overlooked. Hitting Ali in the body or on the arms was like hitting a piece of cement.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... ights-ali/

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ThatOne wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ali had nothing on Larry when it comes to toughness. Not a thing.

Here's a quote from a gentleman who went fifty four rounds with both of them:

Frank: Who was stronger, Muhammad Ali or Larry Holmes?

Norton: Oh Ali definetly, Ali was very strong but because he wasn't a one punch KO artist it is overlooked. Hitting Ali in the body or on the arms was like hitting a piece of cement.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... ights-ali/

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

ThatOne wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ThatOne wrote: Here's a quote from a gentleman who went fifty four rounds with both of them:

Frank: Who was stronger, Muhammad Ali or Larry Holmes?

Norton: Oh Ali definetly, Ali was very strong but because he wasn't a one punch KO artist it is overlooked. Hitting Ali in the body or on the arms was like hitting a piece of cement.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-a ... ights-ali/

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

Would this be a testimonial to one's toughness?

"Man, I hit him (Ali) with punches that'd bring down the walls of a city.Lawdy, Lawdy, he's a great champion."


-Joe Frazier

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