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New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 08:30
by jBacca
So commish, what have you decided on?

There is quite a gulf of class between the top 2 or 3 boxers, and the rest of the crowd, and so more straps to aim for is much sought after and much appreciated.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 08:33
by Crease
I was expect the 4 major titles to remain... WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF

And continue with the WBU title... (15 or below)
Maybe the IBO title could be added for boxers (20 or below)

Don't really fancy regional titles. :shame:

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 08:39
by hitman09
jBacca wrote:So commish, what have you decided on?

There is quite a gulf of class between the top 2 or 3 boxers, and the rest of the crowd, and so more straps to aim for is much sought after and much appreciated.
Not really. Pep, Sanchez, Saddler, Armstrong, Driscoll and Chocolate are all on a similar level.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 09:25
by jBacca
Crease wrote:I was expect the 4 major titles to remain... WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF

And continue with the WBU title... (15 or below)
Maybe the IBO title could be added for boxers (20 or below)

Don't really fancy regional titles. :shame:
I didn't ask you.
hitman09 wrote: Not really. Pep, Sanchez, Saddler, Armstrong, Driscoll and Chocolate are all on a similar level.
Pep is a cut above. Saddler and Driscollm maybe Armstrong, aren't too far behind.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 10:20
by hitman09
But surely, in the interests of competitiveness, they (whoever designed the sim) will not put a huge gap between top fighters?

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 10:41
by kevo
Regional titles (Euro & Americas) should be included IMO.

Having the big four + the WBU is all well and good, but there are fighters that will be too good for the WBU, but fall just short of World title level. Having regional titles will give people with these fighters something to aim for, build there own rivalries and still get some fun out of the Sim.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 14:27
by allworld80
kevo wrote:Regional titles (Euro & Americas) should be included IMO.

Having the big four + the WBU is all well and good, but there are fighters that will be too good for the WBU, but fall just short of World title level. Having regional titles will give people with these fighters something to aim for, build there own rivalries and still get some fun out of the Sim.
This is more along the lines of what I was thinking, and what I mentioned in a previous thread about regional belts. They won't clutter anything up because, as with the WBU, they won't have any rankings attached to them.

Some regional options I was thinking of

EBU- European Boxing Union (self explanatory)
NABA - North America Boxing Association (US, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean)
ICBA - Inter-Continental Boxing Association (Africa, Asia, Middle East, Pacific Rim)
SABA - South American Boxing Association (South America)

Fighters based out of only those particular regions would only be eligible for the title associated with it. For example Hamed would be eligible for the EBU, but not the NABA.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 14:33
by hitman09
tzyuforever wrote:
kevo wrote:Regional titles (Euro & Americas) should be included IMO.

Having the big four + the WBU is all well and good, but there are fighters that will be too good for the WBU, but fall just short of World title level. Having regional titles will give people with these fighters something to aim for, build there own rivalries and still get some fun out of the Sim.
This is more along the lines of what I was thinking, and what I mentioned in a previous thread about regional belts. They won't clutter anything up because, as with the WBU, they won't have any rankings attached to them.

Some regional options I was thinking of

EBU- European Boxing Union (self explanatory)
NABA - North America Boxing Association (US, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean)
ICBA - Inter-Continental Boxing Association (Africa, Asia, Middle East, Pacific Rim)
SABA - South American Boxing Association (South America)

Fighters based out of only those particular regions would only be eligible for the title associated with it. For example Hamed would be eligible for the EBU, but not the NABA.
So it's based on the fighters' nationality, not promoters'?

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 14:38
by allworld80
hitman09 wrote:
tzyuforever wrote:
kevo wrote:Regional titles (Euro & Americas) should be included IMO.

Having the big four + the WBU is all well and good, but there are fighters that will be too good for the WBU, but fall just short of World title level. Having regional titles will give people with these fighters something to aim for, build there own rivalries and still get some fun out of the Sim.
This is more along the lines of what I was thinking, and what I mentioned in a previous thread about regional belts. They won't clutter anything up because, as with the WBU, they won't have any rankings attached to them.

Some regional options I was thinking of

EBU- European Boxing Union (self explanatory)
NABA - North America Boxing Association (US, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean)
ICBA - Inter-Continental Boxing Association (Africa, Asia, Middle East, Pacific Rim)
SABA - South American Boxing Association (South America)

Fighters based out of only those particular regions would only be eligible for the title associated with it. For example Hamed would be eligible for the EBU, but not the NABA.
So it's based on the fighters' nationality, not promoters'?
If we impliment regional belts, I'd say that's the most realistic way of doing it.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 14:51
by allworld80
I'll also add that these belts wouldn't have to be dropped if, let's say for example, the EBU champ got a world title shot.

And the regional belts would only be on the line when facing another fighter from the same region, clearly.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 14:57
by jBacca
Yep, sounds good commish (and Kevo). Well thought out.

Now where the fvck is Young Griffo from? :lol:

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 15:11
by hitman09
jBacca wrote:Yep, sounds good commish (and Kevo). Well thought out.

Now where the fvck is Young Griffo from? :lol:
Australia

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 18:41
by Crease
:oo It seems the regional titles are a hit... Fair enough, let the games begin...

WBC title
WBA title
WBO title
IBF title
WBU title
EBU- European Boxing Union
NABA- North America Boxing Association (US, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean)
ICBA-Inter-Continental Boxing Association (Africa, Asia, Middle East, Pacific Rim)
SABA-South American Boxing Association (South America)[/quote]

9 TITLES:
Boy am I gonna have a job keeping records of the titles... :witzend: :lol:

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 18:44
by Crease
Just a few questions Commish:

1. Is the IBO title not gonna be used this season? (we would be as well rounding up the number of titles to 10).

2. Can there be unification fights between regions? i assume not.

3. If a regional champion wins a world title, does he still hold his regional title?
And if so, if he loses his next defence, will he lose both titles if the fighter is from the same region as him?
And if the fighter is not in the same region will he still hold his regional title?

4. Can a world and regional champion, just decide to put 1 title on the line in any given week?

5. Will there be regional rankings as well as world rankings?

Cheers for your time. :bow:

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 19:40
by Deno1986
Crease wrote:
2. Can there be unification fights between regions? i assume not.
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Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 19:52
by jBacca
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Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 20:00
by BoxBuzz
Deno1986 wrote:
Crease wrote:
2. Can there be unification fights between regions? i assume not.
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Yes, but the old titles would cease to exist and the new title would need to be geographically located to whatever the center point between those old titles were.


E.G. If there was a British and Italian faceoff, the winner of the fight would become the new French champion.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 20:01
by Crease
:roll:

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 20:04
by Crease
The Commish still needs to answer the above questions to bring about clarity. :OhYes:

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 20:08
by Deno1986
Crease wrote:The Commish still needs to answer the above questions to bring about clarity. :OhYes:
I think they are fairly obvious though to be fair Creasey bear. How many times have we seen boxers vacate their EBU belt for a World Title shot? They have too.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 20:16
by Neri
Crease wrote:Just a few questions Commish:

1. Is the IBO title not gonna be used this season? (we would be as well rounding up the number of titles to 10).

2. Can there be unification fights between regions? i assume not.

3. If a regional champion wins a world title, does he still hold his regional title?
And if so, if he loses his next defence, will he lose both titles if the fighter is from the same region as him?
And if the fighter is not in the same region will he still hold his regional title?

4. Can a world and regional champion, just decide to put 1 title on the line in any given week?

5. Will there be regional rankings as well as world rankings?

Cheers for your time. :bow:
1: Is there any need for the IBO now that we have regional titles giving fighters more glory to fight for? I would say No.

2: You assumed right. If an Aussie is ineligible to fight for the Euro title then how does he unify with a Euro champ once he becomes champ of his own region? Crease i'm afraid you may always be the number 1 Noob.

3: I think any fighter who wins a world title should have to vacate his regional title, giving fighters below a shot.

4: If the above happens this should not occur.

5: An extra set of rankings could make the commissioner job more time consuming so that's up to the man in the hot seat.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 20:30
by Crease
That's fair enough... If truth be told, I am a little sceptical about adding regional titles...

The sole reason:
If we are choosing to go down this road (as the majority we have) then we are putting boundaries up as to what titles are available for certain fighters...

Personally I don't like this, as for instance, there is going to be tougher competition for some regions but a lesser quality of opposition for others...
And by this, although the regional champions will have titles of equal measure, one will have fought at a higher level than the other, and to me, this doesn't seem fair...

I would have settled for adding the IBO and (maybe) the WBF titles just to add spice and give outsie boxers a chance for a little glory...
That way, like with the regional titles, the no-hopers who have lost a dozen or more fights will ahve something which is not impossible to strive for.

And this way, every fighter is available to fight for every title. :TU:

Re: New belts?

Posted: 16 May 2010, 21:35
by Crease
Any reply to my above post.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 17 May 2010, 06:16
by jBacca
Yes, shut the fvck up.

Re: New belts?

Posted: 17 May 2010, 06:40
by kevo
Crease, sitck it up your arse you giant noob.