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anybody know? he is on the undercard of marquez-diaz on the 31st july

'Hope it's Dilks it's Dilks, we hope it's Dilks it's Dilks....'

(to the tune of We Hope It's Chips)..

:)

Maybe Zuniga, he would cause Groves a few problems and would be a good test for him

Is it just a fight to stay busy? It's not currently down on Boxrec as being a defence of his Commonwealth title, and it's only a couple of months away.

With that in mind, it's not going to be someone like Dilks. We'll be lucky if it's someone in the top 100.

Asterix wrote:Is it just a fight to stay busy? It's not currently down on Boxrec as being a defence of his Commonwealth title, and it's only a couple of months away.

With that in mind, it's not going to be someone like Dilks. We'll be lucky if it's someone in the top 100.

i bet it will be somebody decent, maybe a top 30 world ranked fighter over 10 rounds.

im guessing an African.... any african

Well, with all the "named" fighters up against TBA it will be interesting which fighter will get the TV fight alongside the main event.

Casamayor, Mora (although isn't Macklin the rumoured opponent here) and Groves are scheduled to be on the bill.

If Golden Boy want Groves to get the TV fight, then I anticipate someone like this guy as his opponent.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Good name, and very beatable.....

Way, way past his best.

Reminds me a bit of an up and coming Haye v Arthur Williams.

stujones wrote:Well, with all the "named" fighters up against TBA it will be interesting which fighter will get the TV fight alongside the main event.

Casamayor, Mora (although isn't Macklin the rumoured opponent here) and Groves are scheduled to be on the bill.

If Golden Boy want Groves to get the TV fight, then I anticipate someone like this guy as his opponent.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

yes there is talk of a macklin fight, craig mcewan was set to face mora but mora didn't want the fight.

sweetscience wrote:im guessing an African.... any african

desmond tu tu ??

I'd be amazed if they threw him in with Joppy, He is at the end BUT would be a risky fight..

Bomber 1 wrote:I'd be amazed if they threw him in with Joppy, He is at the end BUT would be a risky fight..

i think groves would win but i agree with you it is a risky fight, joppy is still a puncher, and if there's 1 slight weakness in groves game at the minute it's his defence.

HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:

Bomber 1 wrote:I'd be amazed if they threw him in with Joppy, He is at the end BUT would be a risky fight..

i think groves would win but i agree with you it is a risky fight, joppy is still a puncher, and if there's 1 slight weakness in groves game at the minute it's his defence.

Joppy is completely washed up - he hasn't had a decent win since he barely got past Eastman nine years agoand despite the stats he's never been that big a puncher. Think Groves would win it comfortably personally.

stupid to match a fighter on the premise his opponents shot.

hurlock wrote:stupid to match a fighter on the premise his opponents shot.

in what sense is it stupid?

sweetscience wrote:im guessing an African.... any african

One of those "Teak Tough" one round jobbies?

Deserter wrote:

hurlock wrote:stupid to match a fighter on the premise his opponents shot.

in what sense is it stupid?

if he aint shot the gulf in expieriance at this stage would be too much.joppy could school him & rob all his confidence before he is even built as a fighter.
joppy aint the same but still good enough to last 10 with bute.

hurlock wrote:

Deserter wrote:

hurlock wrote:stupid to match a fighter on the premise his opponents shot.

in what sense is it stupid?

if he aint shot the gulf in expieriance at this stage would be too much.joppy could school him & rob all his confidence before he is even built as a fighter.
joppy aint the same but still good enough to last 10 with bute.

There's always that risk, but in this case it's marginal. Every promoter has to mitigate risk at some stage in a fighter's risk and I think Groves is good enough to rise to the challenge.
Joppy did last 10 against Bute but he lost every round. I think that even if in worst case scenario Joppy could put up a fight and actually beat Groves (which I find extremely unlikely), who's to say that wouldn't actually be of benefit to Groves? Not every loss leads to a loss of confidence, after all, we've said on here enough times that too much emphasis is put on preserving a fighter's 0 and that more can actually be learnt from a loss.

When will Groves defend in london?

Deserter wrote:

hurlock wrote:

Deserter wrote: in what sense is it stupid?

if he aint shot the gulf in expieriance at this stage would be too much.joppy could school him & rob all his confidence before he is even built as a fighter.
joppy aint the same but still good enough to last 10 with bute.

There's always that risk, but in this case it's marginal. Every promoter has to mitigate risk at some stage in a fighter's risk and I think Groves is good enough to rise to the challenge.
Joppy did last 10 against Bute but he lost every round. I think that even if in worst case scenario Joppy could put up a fight and actually beat Groves (which I find extremely unlikely), who's to say that wouldn't actually be of benefit to Groves? Not every loss leads to a loss of confidence, after all, we've said on here enough times that too much emphasis is put on preserving a fighter's 0 and that more can actually be learnt from a loss.

but boxing is a buisness it's not the ufc.

i mean who has groves fought???. i rate him & believe he's got what it takes, but do your apprenticeship first :!:

hurlock wrote:

Deserter wrote:

hurlock wrote:
if he aint shot the gulf in expieriance at this stage would be too much.joppy could school him & rob all his confidence before he is even built as a fighter.
joppy aint the same but still good enough to last 10 with bute.

There's always that risk, but in this case it's marginal. Every promoter has to mitigate risk at some stage in a fighter's risk and I think Groves is good enough to rise to the challenge.
Joppy did last 10 against Bute but he lost every round. I think that even if in worst case scenario Joppy could put up a fight and actually beat Groves (which I find extremely unlikely), who's to say that wouldn't actually be of benefit to Groves? Not every loss leads to a loss of confidence, after all, we've said on here enough times that too much emphasis is put on preserving a fighter's 0 and that more can actually be learnt from a loss.

but boxing is a buisness it's not the ufc.

i mean who has groves fought???. i rate him & believe he's got what it takes, but do your apprenticeship first :!:

I don't understand your point - if the odds are in his favour in terms of beating Joppy, as I believe they are, he increases his market value considerably and it's a great 'rung' on the apprenticeship ladder, so it ticks both boxes.
Business is all about calculated risk so I'm perfectly aware of what you're saying (though I think the UFC comparison is flawed given how successful a business model that is!).
I guess fundamentally you just have a different opinion of the risk/reward ratio in relation to the Joppy fight. I believe there's a lot to gain and little risk; you feel that there's far more risk due to Groves' lack of experience and a different view of Joppy's decline, which is fair enough

hurlock wrote:

Deserter wrote:

hurlock wrote:
if he aint shot the gulf in expieriance at this stage would be too much.joppy could school him & rob all his confidence before he is even built as a fighter.
joppy aint the same but still good enough to last 10 with bute.

There's always that risk, but in this case it's marginal. Every promoter has to mitigate risk at some stage in a fighter's risk and I think Groves is good enough to rise to the challenge.
Joppy did last 10 against Bute but he lost every round. I think that even if in worst case scenario Joppy could put up a fight and actually beat Groves (which I find extremely unlikely), who's to say that wouldn't actually be of benefit to Groves? Not every loss leads to a loss of confidence, after all, we've said on here enough times that too much emphasis is put on preserving a fighter's 0 and that more can actually be learnt from a loss.

but boxing is a buisness it's not the ufc.

i mean who has groves fought???. i rate him & believe he's got what it takes, but do your apprenticeship first :!:

He's already hammered Samuel and Adamu, and would do the same to Joppy IMO.

That would be a superb CV for his age and at this stage in his career.

In the latest BM it said that Groves was sparring Froch before the Kessler fight and that they were 'give and take' sessions that got quite intense. I'm suprised, and impressed that Groves would be able to compete at this stage of his career. I know it's only sparring but still.

Jesse Brinkley would be a 100% win fight for Groves and a good scalp

Groves is clearly a superb talent, but I wish they'd just take it a bit easier. Adamu was a big test and though he made it look easy, I'd still like to see him concentrate of cleaning up Britain first, which he can do.