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how does he go against:

cotto:
marg:
foreman:
mayweather:
pac:

discuss

If he makes 154 and isnt to weight drained, Id say he beats Marg and Cotto. Foreman fights similar to Geale so that would be close. Pac is an interesting one, He hits hard and is quick but Mundines defence, Handspeed and size would really trouble him. Id say Pac throws enough to win on points.
Mayweather Would beat him on Points also, He does all the same things Mundine does, except better.

The question is, whether Mundine can make the weight and keep his speed, He is getting on in years and cutting weight might be a big mistake.

IMO i don't think Pac and FMJ would ever consider a fight with Mundine, he brings nothing to there careers, Mundine adds nothing to Pacs stella resume.

I have'nt seen Mundine fight at this weight, so it will be hard to give a fair assesment.

Foreman can punch despite his poor KO record and fights at a high pace, when you fight fighters like Mundine, who wanna slowly pick the shots, find the angle and throw 30- 40 punch's a round , and you throw him in with a boxer with good speed and has a high work rate, they get confused.

Foreman decision.

Mundine's 5 inch height and speed will see him pick Cotto off.
Mundine decision

Mundine punch's the bejebus out of Knuckles Margarito.Mundines speed just too much, and Margarito's not allowed to fight with Plaster anymore since he got pinched.
Mundine KO 11

ben k wrote:If he makes 154 and isnt to weight drained, Id say he beats Marg and Cotto. Foreman fights similar to Geale so that would be close. Pac is an interesting one, He hits hard and is quick but Mundines defence, Handspeed and size would really trouble him. Id say Pac throws enough to win on points.
Mayweather Would beat him on Points also, He does all the same things Mundine does, except better.

The question is, whether Mundine can make the weight and keep his speed, He is getting on in years and cutting weight might be a big mistake.

Do you lose speed when losing weight??

adamheight wrote:how does he go against:

cotto:
marg:
foreman:
mayweather:
pac:

discuss

Like this is ever going to happen.

But if hell did freeze over

Cotto: Lose KO
Marg: Lose Pts
foreman: Lose KO
Mayweather: Lose Early stoppage
Pac: Retiring but would lose

Hounddawg wrote:

ben k wrote:If he makes 154 and isnt to weight drained, Id say he beats Marg and Cotto. Foreman fights similar to Geale so that would be close. Pac is an interesting one, He hits hard and is quick but Mundines defence, Handspeed and size would really trouble him. Id say Pac throws enough to win on points.
Mayweather Would beat him on Points also, He does all the same things Mundine does, except better.

The question is, whether Mundine can make the weight and keep his speed, He is getting on in years and cutting weight might be a big mistake.

Do you lose speed when losing weight??

If your weight drained you cant get shots off, And in turn will lose speed.
An example is Oscar in the fight with Pac at 147. He couldn't throw anything with speed.

Hounddawg wrote:IMO i don't think Pac and FMJ would ever consider a fight with Mundine, he brings nothing to there careers, Mundine adds nothing to Pacs stella resume.

I have'nt seen Mundine fight at this weight, so it will be hard to give a fair assesment.

Foreman can punch despite his poor KO record and fights at a high pace, when you fight fighters like Mundine, who wanna slowly pick the shots, find the angle and throw 30- 40 punch's a round , and you throw him in with a boxer with good speed and has a high work rate, they get confused.

Foreman decision.

Mundine's 5 inch height and speed will see him pick Cotto off.
Mundine decision

Mundine punch's the bejebus out of Knuckles Margarito.Mundines speed just too much, and Margarito's not allowed to fight with Plaster anymore since he got pinched.
Mundine KO 11

interesting. what makes you think he can stop margarito when he has been taken the distance by these guys of late:

Alejandro Gustavo Falliga
Rafael Sosa Pintos
Crazy Kim

he last ko was back in 07

hes had 3 stoppages in his last 13 victories. even sven himself wouldnt be happy with that.

adamheight wrote:how does he go against:

cotto:
marg:
foreman:
mayweather:
pac:

discuss

It's interesting, that's for sure. I can't see Mundine being OK below 154 lbs. I think Mundine would beat Foreman, possibly also Margarito. Cotto might just be too skilful for the old man. Mayweather and Pac are just too fast/good.

adamheight wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:IMO i don't think Pac and FMJ would ever consider a fight with Mundine, he brings nothing to there careers, Mundine adds nothing to Pacs stella resume.

I have'nt seen Mundine fight at this weight, so it will be hard to give a fair assesment.

Foreman can punch despite his poor KO record and fights at a high pace, when you fight fighters like Mundine, who wanna slowly pick the shots, find the angle and throw 30- 40 punch's a round , and you throw him in with a boxer with good speed and has a high work rate, they get confused.

Foreman decision.

Mundine's 5 inch height and speed will see him pick Cotto off.
Mundine decision

Mundine punch's the bejebus out of Knuckles Margarito.Mundines speed just too much, and Margarito's not allowed to fight with Plaster anymore since he got pinched.
Mundine KO 11

interesting. what makes you think he can stop margarito when he has been taken the distance by these guys of late:

Alejandro Gustavo Falliga
Rafael Sosa Pintos
Crazy Kim

he last ko was back in 07

hes had 3 stoppages in his last 13 victories. even sven himself wouldnt be happy with that.

even sven himself wouldnt be happy with that.

Touche

adamheight wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:IMO i don't think Pac and FMJ would ever consider a fight with Mundine, he brings nothing to there careers, Mundine adds nothing to Pacs stella resume.

I have'nt seen Mundine fight at this weight, so it will be hard to give a fair assesment.

Foreman can punch despite his poor KO record and fights at a high pace, when you fight fighters like Mundine, who wanna slowly pick the shots, find the angle and throw 30- 40 punch's a round , and you throw him in with a boxer with good speed and has a high work rate, they get confused.

Foreman decision.

Mundine's 5 inch height and speed will see him pick Cotto off.
Mundine decision

Mundine punch's the bejebus out of Knuckles Margarito.Mundines speed just too much, and Margarito's not allowed to fight with Plaster anymore since he got pinched.
Mundine KO 11

interesting. what makes you think he can stop margarito when he has been taken the distance by these guys of late:

Alejandro Gustavo Falliga
Rafael Sosa Pintos
Crazy Kim

he last ko was back in 07

hes had 3 stoppages in his last 13 victories. even sven himself wouldnt be happy with that.

Margarito stayed in fights cause he hurt his opponents with plaster, he's garbage without the plaster and as he is too slow to compete with Mundines speed and barely lands retiring in the 11th.

ben k wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:

ben k wrote:If he makes 154 and isnt to weight drained, Id say he beats Marg and Cotto. Foreman fights similar to Geale so that would be close. Pac is an interesting one, He hits hard and is quick but Mundines defence, Handspeed and size would really trouble him. Id say Pac throws enough to win on points.
Mayweather Would beat him on Points also, He does all the same things Mundine does, except better.

The question is, whether Mundine can make the weight and keep his speed, He is getting on in years and cutting weight might be a big mistake.

Do you lose speed when losing weight??

If your weight drained you cant get shots off, And in turn will lose speed.
An example is Oscar in the fight with Pac at 147. He couldn't throw anything with speed.

thats a fair example, but that's weight drained, you don't lose speed when losing weight.

Mundine has shown nothing to suggest he should be in the ring with these guys at 154lbs. I wont go into the Geale fightas it has been done to death but if that was a loss which it should have been) we probably wouldnt even be discussing this....but

Maragrito: Ko's Mundine inside 10
Cotto: UD (wide points)or late stoppage by Cotto
Foreman: UD win for Foreman
Pac/PBF: Whatever they want to do.........

Hounddawg wrote:

ben k wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:
Do you lose speed when losing weight??

If your weight drained you cant get shots off, And in turn will lose speed.
An example is Oscar in the fight with Pac at 147. He couldn't throw anything with speed.

thats a fair example, but that's weight drained, you don't lose speed when losing weight.

Thats what i was getting at mate, I think at 154 he might be weight drained

adamheight wrote:how does he go against:

cotto:
marg:
foreman:
mayweather:
pac:

discuss

George Foreman would still kick his skinny arse, even if he is in his 60s.

ben k wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:

ben k wrote: If your weight drained you cant get shots off, And in turn will lose speed.
An example is Oscar in the fight with Pac at 147. He couldn't throw anything with speed.

thats a fair example, but that's weight drained, you don't lose speed when losing weight.

Thats what i was getting at mate, I think at 154 he might be weight drained

At the very least while losing weight you lose energy i.e. you must burn more than you consume. It is a fact that it makes you lethargic.

I'd like to see Mundine fight at the weight first. I think if he does make weight he will be drained, and will probably find it hard to beat the bum he has lined up. To me he looks drained and weak at middle, can't imagine light middle. My crystal ball says Mundine wont make weight, and fight at middle weight again, like he did verse Medley... therefore making it even more disadvantageous for a guy that has fought at lightweight.

adamheight wrote:how does he go against:

cotto:
marg:
foreman:
mayweather:
pac:

discuss

I think he would probably lose to everyone.

Foreman would be a coin flip fight but I don't expect Mundine to be in prime form at 154, so I would give the edge to Yuri.

Pac, PBF, and Cotto are obviously much smaller but their advantages in skill and talent would be too much for Mundine to overcome. Foreman is roughly the same height as Mundine (BoxRec has both of them listed as 5'11), so I don't think Mundine can win these fights simply because of his size. Superior talent overcomes a superior frame.

I think Margarito would be too strong and tenacious for Mundine but it can be hard to make predictions in regards to Margarito because it is unclear how big of a role the loaded gloves played in his career.

Again, in all likelihood Mundine is going to be drained badly at 154 and not competing to the best of his ability, so it will be very difficult for him to score wins over fighters of this caliber.

Someone better be watching the scales closely when Mundine weighs in...

I dont see him beating my boy Cotto!!!! NO CHANCE, you got to member Cotto has beaten Judah, Paulie & Mosely so he can deal with quick handspeed

Marlin wrote:Someone better be watching the scales closely when Mundine weighs in...

There was an instance in Qld when Mundine wanted to use his scales. No way was local fight supervisor John Hogg going to allow it.

Mundane's fighting a welter weight next, I see......

dberry wrote:Mundane's fighting a welter weight next, I see......

Super welter/Jnr middle

AntonS wrote:

dberry wrote:Mundane's fighting a welter weight next, I see......

Super welter/Jnr middle

a blown up jnr middle. didnt the guy start out at welter?

adamheight wrote:

AntonS wrote:

dberry wrote:Mundane's fighting a welter weight next, I see......

Super welter/Jnr middle

a blown up jnr middle. didnt the guy start out at welter?

The guy's last fight, his first outside Argentina, was for some international welterweight title.

it's alright, he's fought as low as lightweight.