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Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 15:30
by Finn
I was watching soccer aid last night and the commentators mentioned Calzaghe v Hopkins II was being rumoured in sporting circles.
Anyone add any weight to this?
Also on another note - Woody Harrelson - what a lagend!!!!
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 15:34
by Adamj1987
i can do better and source richard schaffer talkign about in in an interview in teh current boxing monthly i think i can chaeck where hes talked with joe about it but he feels joe wants to come back some days but wants nothing to do with boxing other days
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 15:36
by DIRT SUGAR
Where there's money eh?
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 16:14
by Autobarn
there was a BS headline that calzaghe had turned it down. saw it last week.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 16:19
by HomeOfBritishBoxing
video of calzaghe on skysports website saying he is 100% not coming back.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 18:27
by Asterix
This was rumoured a while back. Calzaghe said he went to the gym and didn't feel the spark was there. No fight.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 19:48
by IRLangmaid25
Asterix wrote:This was rumoured a while back. Calzaghe said he went to the gym and didn't feel the spark was there. No fight.
I heard the same rumour too and read the same article. Calazghe has got nothing to prove and an awful lot to lose should he choose to come back and fight Bernard Hopkins as well, plus if he did come back it would put back his application to the Hall of Fame to 2016. Plus I think Hopkins should retire as I feel he too has had an amazing career but if he carries and goes with someone like Chad Dawson he will get an utter shallacking and will be remembered for that and not the 20 World Title Defences he made at Middleweight. Plus I think Hopkins will make an amazing trainer.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 07 Jun 2010, 20:41
by states
I think we can safely say Calzaghe is staying retired, and thus this isn't happening. Good thing, really, because I can't imagine too many people would want to sit through this again, no matter how much trash-talking Hopkins could do if it was announced. He'd have to really try and sell this one.
Hopkins should do the decent thing and follow Calzaghe into retirement.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 05:54
by Autobarn
states wrote:I think we can safely say Calzaghe is staying retired, and thus this isn't happening. Good thing, really, because I can't imagine too many people would want to sit through this again, no matter how much trash-talking Hopkins could do if it was announced. He'd have to really try and sell this one.
Hopkins should do the decent thing and follow Calzaghe into retirement.
i doubt anyone would believe him and i doubt he'd have the full backing of GBP and thus HBO.
hopkins should fight bronco mckart or some other puffed up, old light middleweight, for one of his catchweight clutchfests. it's all worn a bit thin. did for me by the 2nd taylor fight.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 06:31
by Chambers2
Asterix wrote:This was rumoured a while back. Calzaghe said he went to the gym and didn't feel the spark was there. No fight.
i.e. nobody offered him the money he wanted
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 07:21
by boswell perkins
I'd love to see him come back.
boxing needs joe.
His retirement had shades of Marvin Hagler about it , in that he retired having done it all, went out on top.
18 months on there are suddenly some big fights. Bute, Dirrel, Abraham,Ward, Froch.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 07:30
by mickey1975
A bigger offer might be hard to refuse to box Ward if he wins the Super Six
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 07:46
by jamesmcdonnell
Doubt that Calzaghe would risk his '0' at this late stage against a slippery and technically very good, not to mention much younger Andre Ward.
If Calzaghe were to fight, which I don't think he will now, it would only be against an old codger like himself that he feels he has the beating of.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 08:32
by mickey1975
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Doubt that Calzaghe would risk his '0' at this late stage against a slippery and technically very good, not to mention much younger Andre Ward.
If Calzaghe were to fight, which I don't think he will now, it would only be against an old codger like himself that he feels he has the beating of.
Thats what he would prefer,but if they make a big star out of Ward,maybe the money will be to big to turn down.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 08:54
by jamesmcdonnell
How are they going to turn Ward into a star the magnitude of Hopkins or Jones overnight - just not possible.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 11:03
by boswell perkins
tbh i think joe would make mincemeat of ward if he is even 80% of what he was
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 11:22
by Matt W
IRLangmaid25 wrote:Asterix wrote:This was rumoured a while back. Calzaghe said he went to the gym and didn't feel the spark was there. No fight.
I heard the same rumour too and read the same article. Calazghe has got nothing to prove and an awful lot to lose should he choose to come back and fight Bernard Hopkins as well, plus if he did come back it would put back his application to the Hall of Fame to 2016. Plus I think Hopkins should retire as I feel he too has had an amazing career but if he carries and goes with someone like Chad Dawson he will get an utter shallacking and will be remembered for that and not the 20 World Title Defences he made at Middleweight.
Plus I think Hopkins
will make an amazing trainer.
Knowledge wise perhaps but with his record of falling out with people and his reputation for being difficult I'm not convinced he would be.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 11:56
by jamesmcdonnell
boswell perkins wrote:tbh i think joe would make mincemeat of ward if he is even 80% of what he was
I don't.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 12:02
by Autobarn
Matt W wrote:IRLangmaid25 wrote:Asterix wrote:This was rumoured a while back. Calzaghe said he went to the gym and didn't feel the spark was there. No fight.
I heard the same rumour too and read the same article. Calazghe has got nothing to prove and an awful lot to lose should he choose to come back and fight Bernard Hopkins as well, plus if he did come back it would put back his application to the Hall of Fame to 2016. Plus I think Hopkins should retire as I feel he too has had an amazing career but if he carries and goes with someone like Chad Dawson he will get an utter shallacking and will be remembered for that and not the 20 World Title Defences he made at Middleweight.
Plus I think Hopkins
will make an amazing trainer.
Knowledge wise perhaps but with his record of falling out with people and his reputation for being difficult I'm not convinced he would be.
hopkins has said he doesn't have the temperament to pass on his knowledge to others.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 12:05
by Autobarn
jamesmcdonnell wrote:boswell perkins wrote:tbh i think joe would make mincemeat of ward if he is even 80% of what he was
I don't.
most ppl have only seen ward from one angle, outboxing kessler. however, if someone puts him under some pressure, or lands some good straight hard shots on him, he may look a completely different fighter.
pretty sure i'm sure he'll be unimpressive, cue "WARD IS FINISHED!" posts all over the internet.
you're only as good as your last fight so right now ward is great but i doubt he'll stay that way. he looked pretty average - pretty sheepish, in fact - against miranda.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 12:17
by dbf
Autobarn wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:boswell perkins wrote:tbh i think joe would make mincemeat of ward if he is even 80% of what he was
I don't.
most ppl have only seen ward from one angle, outboxing kessler. however, if someone puts him under some pressure, or lands some good straight hard shots on him, he may look a completely different fighter.
pretty sure i'm sure he'll be unimpressive, cue "WARD IS FINISHED!" posts all over the internet.
you're only as good as your last fight so right now ward is great but i doubt he'll stay that way. he looked pretty average - pretty sheepish, in fact - against miranda.
Agreed. Can't imagine any fireworks between him and Dirrell (especially as they are friends too!). You know what, if Frochy can sort out his workrate and tighten up his defence, he might still have a chance in this.
Re: Calzaghe v Hopkins II
Posted: 08 Jun 2010, 13:17
by boswell perkins
i still think guys like bhop and dawson are way ahead of a andre ward