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Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 20:45
by Goodnight, Irene
Tszyu-Hurtado.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 21:59
by SaadOffTheDeck
Frank Fletcher/Clint jackson
Botha/Briggs

It isn't underrated, but Lee/LoCicero hasn't been seen by everyone and it's every bit as good, if not better than Ward/Gatti 1.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 22:01
by THEHAMMER321
Caveman Lee vs John Locicero

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:19
by Robinson
Speaking of Mercer.

I have always enjoyed watching Mercer-Witherspoon.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:28
by SaadOffTheDeck
Same, except for the decision. I think that was under Bowe/Golota 2. Talk about a card that shows how far the Heavies have fallen.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:31
by Goodnight, Irene
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Same, except for the decision. I think that was under Bowe/Golota 2. Talk about a card that shows how far the Heavies have fallen.
I don't get a lot of support for it, but Bowe-Golota II is my pick for the most enthralling, two-sided HW battle of the decade.

People bang on about Ibeabuchi-Tua, & that was frankly pedestrian by comparison.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:38
by dberry
Eddie Delic-Lincoln Stewart for the Victorian State Welterweight title at Vodaphone Arena, Melbourne on the Anthony Mundine-Lester Ellis undercard, 15/07/02. Eight rounds of fast, nonstop action ending in a lot of bloodshed and a draw. In all the fights I had watched that year this was by far the most exciting.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:38
by SaadOffTheDeck
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Same, except for the decision. I think that was under Bowe/Golota 2. Talk about a card that shows how far the Heavies have fallen.
I don't get a lot of support for it, but Bowe-Golota II is my pick for the most enthralling, two-sided HW battle of the decade.

People bang on about Ibeabuchi-Tua, & that was frankly pedestrian by comparison.

Tua/Ike could cure insomnia, I use my copy as a dust collector.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:41
by Goodnight, Irene
I was very disappointed when I finally saw it. I cannot believe the hype it continues to generate.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:49
by SaadOffTheDeck
Goodnight, Irene wrote:I was very disappointed when I finally saw it. I cannot believe the hype it continues to generate.

Calling it boring is a bit tongue in cheek. But it was like watching someone play a Boxing video game with no damage. Not a bit of drama in it. It didn't suck, but it's garbage compared to the internet wave that has made it spectacular. It sure as hell wasn't anything like Holyfield/Dokes or Moorer/Cooper just to name a few around the time frame.

Being perfectly honest, i prefer the two Maskaev/Rahman fights. That second one was one of my Boxing addiction PPV's that turned out to be nice. That fight fits the thread.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 02:52
by Goodnight, Irene
"...But it was like watching someone play a Boxing video game with no damage..." - Saad

:lol:

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 11:56
by dempseyfire
For an overlooked dramatic HW fight, watch Courage Tshabalaba vs Darroll Wilson.

Others that seem to be overlooked:

Aaron Pryor-Dujuan Johnson
Charley Norkus-Danny Nardico I (arguably one of the greatest fights of all time . .in fact I have yet to see a Nardico fight that wasn't extremely entertaining)
Etienne-Clay Bey
Pacquao-Sasakul (Manny's first great win and a great come-from-behind knockout)

There are several fights between more journeyman-calibre opponents I've seen over the years that were great but I'm having problems remembering the names of the fighters . .


I don't see Golota-Bowe II as very 'two-sided" . . .Bowe has his moments in the 3rd and 4th rounds but sandwiching those is a one-sided beating. The fight is just not competitive enough for my liking.

Agree about Tua-Ike . . .for an old-fashioned clubbing battle with no knockdowns I definitely prefer Witherspoon-Mercer.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 17:43
by hhaehre
Eubank - Thompson I and II

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 21:12
by gb
The 2 best British fights I've seen are
Crawford Ashley vs Nicky Piper
Mark Hobson vs Enzo Maccarinelli

Both were close wars that went to the cards and the judges actually managed to get the scores right.

Andy Holligan vs Shea Neary was a great six rounds of action before Holligan ran out of gas.
Johanneson vs Mitchell was also a absolute cracker, even if the stoppage was possibly a bit premature.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 22:06
by bjermaine
not sure if gatti-rodriguez counts as underrated but it's one of the greatest fights i've ever seen.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 22:07
by Goodnight, Irene
BarryWashington wrote:What are some underrated fights? *can be subpar fighters, decent journeyman, greats, etc.*

Here's one that I just fully watched and scored (if you happen to see "gl514" that is my YouTube account).

August 5th, 1990 at the Convention Hall in Atlantic City, New Jersey in a scheduled 12 round contest between "Merciless" Ray Mercer (15-0-0) and "Smokin" Bert Cooper (22-5-0).

Rounds 1-3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OO7oT3gbno
Rounds 4-6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnS_nPM2 ... re=related
Rounds 7-9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw2Wd6fA ... re=related
Rounds 10 & 11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_UdGK9P ... re=related
Round 12 + Decision: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQy2KAQ2 ... re=related
If you haven't caught it, I highly recommend Michael Katsidis vs. Graham Earl (2007) :TU:

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 00:49
by elmersalsa
James Toney vs Mike McCallum I ...Great fight of excellent greatness and skill.
Thomas Hearns vs Wilfred Benitez
Sugar Ray Leonard vs Wilfred Benitez
Aaron Pryor vs DuJuan Johnson
Vilomar Fernandez vs Alexis Arguello
Bruce Curry vs Monroe Brooks... A fight that many people don't talk about.
Roberto Duran vs Ray Lampkin...Was a hell of a fight.
Muhammad Ali vs Zora Folley...Ali was in trouble for a couple of rounds, and then, like a great champion, solves the puzzle
Muhammad Ali vs Bob Foster...It is a great example of a great big man fighting a great little man.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 00:51
by Goodnight, Irene
You must be kiddin about Leonard-Benitez, Elmer.

A completely under-done Benitez shows up, is hampered by a severe cut for a good two-thirds of the fight, & then is on the wrong end of a BS stoppage? Not taking anything from Leonard directly here, he did his best all night, but how was this a great fight?

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 00:55
by elmersalsa
Goodnight, Irene wrote:You must be kiddin about Leonard-Benitez, Elmer.

A completely under-done Benitez shows up, is hampered by a severe cut for a good two-thirds of the fight, & then is on the wrong end of a BS stoppage? Not taking anything from Leonard directly here, he did his best all night, but how was this a great fight?
It was a great fight because both fighters showed great skills of defensive mastery. It is the same fight as McCallum vs Toney I. Sugar Ray graduated that night. Benitez was in great shape for this fight. The last round was a classic.

I would have love to see Duran vs Benitez then, than the boring fight of 1982.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 01:02
by Goodnight, Irene
Benitez was in great shape? Explain that to me.

He was totally, totally under-done.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 01:13
by SaadOffTheDeck
I have always heard benitez didn't even walk into the gym until 2 weeks before the fight. Probably kept his weight down with blow.

Curry/Brooks was a good shout though. i remember seeing that after the local news when I wasl young. Probably was a Friday Night. I think Bobby Cassidy was on the undercard.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 11:50
by guitar102
1. George Foreman vs. Ron Lyle - They took turns knocking each other down.

2. Marvin Hagler vs. Tommy Hearns - this fight should rightly be regarded as the greatest middleweight fight in boxing history.

3. Roberto Duran vs. Iran Barkley - the last great fight for 'hands of stone'.

4. Marlon Starling vs. Lloyd Honeygham.

BTW - Duran did meet Benitez and lost.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 12:09
by Expug
I would throw in Jake Lamottas first fight with "Irish" Bob Murphy in which he was stopped.
Also the fight with Danny Nardico where he also was stopped.
These fights kinda fly under the radar a bit.
Jake had a great chin no doubt but he didnt hear the final bell in these two.

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 12:51
by dempseyfire
hhaehre wrote:Eubank - Thompson I and II
I think the Eubank-Thompson fights are fairly well known but his fight with Sellars is not as much . . great slugfest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8MuHI_m ... re=channel

Re: Underrated Fights

Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 19:32
by Goodnight, Irene
guitar102 wrote:1. George Foreman vs. Ron Lyle - They took turns knocking each other down.

2. Marvin Hagler vs. Tommy Hearns - this fight should rightly be regarded as the greatest middleweight fight in boxing history.

3. Roberto Duran vs. Iran Barkley - the last great fight for 'hands of stone'.

4. Marlon Starling vs. Lloyd Honeygham.

BTW - Duran did meet Benitez and lost.
The topic is under-rated fights.