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FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 11:18
by Jeff Thomas
OK great, the upcoming show looks a good one. Not PPV worthy for me but thats just my opinion. So whats changed? There was the big (drum roll)'we're showing boxing on Saturday' announcement followed conveniently by what can only be described as a very pro FWP cover by boxing news this week, with the words 'MAGNIFICENT' scrawled across it.

So whats changed for FWP, whats brought on this sudden delivery of so many big fights that were been held back? Burns-Martinez, Simpson-Appleby, plus this big domestic bill! Obviously i'm pleased but just intrigued as to what might have brought about such a radical move of delivering interesting domestic matches by them.

Can I also add, as I know they will be reading. 16 fight marathon bills are terrible and you would be better served providing 4 good matches and a couple of decent undercard fights rather then having a fan sitting there for 7 hours of drivel. :TU:

Do you think anything has changed for FWP or are they just rewrapping last years christmas presents?

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 11:21
by HomeOfBritishBoxing
Jeff Thomas wrote:OK great, the upcoming show looks a good one. Not PPV worthy for me but thats just my opinion. So whats changed? There was the big (drum roll)'we're showing boxing on Saturday' announcement followed conveniently by what can only be described as a very pro FWP cover by boxing news this week, with the words 'MAGNIFICENT' scrawled across it.

So whats changed for FWP, whats brought on this sudden delivery of so many big fights that were been held back? Burns-Martinez, Simpson-Appleby, plus this big domestic bill! Obviously i'm pleased but just intrigued as to what might have brought about such a radical move of delivering interesting domestic matches by them.

Can I also add, as I know they will be reading. 16 fight marathon bills are terrible and you would be better served providing 4 good matches and a couple of decent undercard fights rather then having a fan sitting there for 7 hours of drivel. :TU:

Do you think anything has changed for FWP or are they just rewrapping last years christmas presents?
only reason he is putting on a hug card is because he has put on 2 shows this 9 months when september comes around :lol:

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 12:17
by boxingchat
HomeOfBritishBoxing wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:OK great, the upcoming show looks a good one. Not PPV worthy for me but thats just my opinion. So whats changed? There was the big (drum roll)'we're showing boxing on Saturday' announcement followed conveniently by what can only be described as a very pro FWP cover by boxing news this week, with the words 'MAGNIFICENT' scrawled across it.

So whats changed for FWP, whats brought on this sudden delivery of so many big fights that were been held back? Burns-Martinez, Simpson-Appleby, plus this big domestic bill! Obviously i'm pleased but just intrigued as to what might have brought about such a radical move of delivering interesting domestic matches by them.

Can I also add, as I know they will be reading. 16 fight marathon bills are terrible and you would be better served providing 4 good matches and a couple of decent undercard fights rather then having a fan sitting there for 7 hours of drivel. :TU:

Do you think anything has changed for FWP or are they just rewrapping last years christmas presents?
only reason he is putting on a hug card is because he has put on 2 shows this 9 months when september comes around :lol:
3 actually - Wembley - Liverpool and West Ham!

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 12:39
by dazzer
come on guys lets not moan there are some good fights on this bill if they hold up?

I think this is good for the fans. Why pay out good money to go to a show for one good fight, now we have maybe 4 good even fights in one night. I will be there hotel booked

hope the shows keep getting bigger and better

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 12:54
by 15829
some people just like moan, if this was maloney or hatton people would be going mad saying it was the best thing ever

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 13:43
by Bomber 1
This bill will hold up I feel and when it does it'll be one of the best bills sky has ever produced.... :TU:

Macklin Vs Barker
Cleverly Vs Murat
Chisora Vs Sexton
Gavin Vs Woodhouse
Brook Vs Jennings
DeGale
Broadhurst
Saunders

This bill will be something special, I just hope sky get the hours to show every fight!! :TU:

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 14:11
by Jeff Thomas
diggler wrote:some people just like moan, if this was maloney or hatton people would be going mad saying it was the best thing ever
Whose moaning, i've said its a good bill? And it is a very good one. Is it worthy of PPV- not in my opinion but thats probably because I grew up watching Benn, Eubank, Naz, Tyson, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Chavez, Lennox Lewis etc for free. The idea of paying £15 pound on top of the £40 I already pay, to watch a few prospects and a few title fights that would be free with any other promoter is a piss take.

The point of the thread was to investigate if this was the start of a new attitude for domestic boxing from W arren and co. If it is brilliant, whats led to this change?

Your hyper sensative aren't you if this kind of thing has got you emotional. :lol:

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 14:14
by FLINT ISLAND
Jeff Thomas wrote:
diggler wrote:some people just like moan, if this was maloney or hatton people would be going mad saying it was the best thing ever
Whose moaning, i've said its a good bill? And it is a very good one. Is it worthy of PPV- not in my opinion but thats probably because I grew up watching Benn, Eubank, Naz, Tyson, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Chavez, Lennox Lewis etc for free. The idea of paying £15 pound on top of the £40 I already pay, to watch a few prospects and a few title fights that would be free with any other promoter is a piss take.

The point of the thread was to investigate if this was the start of a new attitude for domestic boxing from W arren and co. If it is brilliant, whats led to this change?

Your hyper sensative aren't you if this kind of thing has got you emotional. :lol:
Yeah the good old days -Benn and Eubank on ITV and Naz for the early fights and Lennox Lewis fought on the BBC.

Even Roy Jones V Clinton Woods and De La Hoya V Vargas repeats were on BBC the next day.

Quality boxing for free.

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 14:34
by Bomber 1
Times change guys and it's very sad I agree BUT this is not the promoters faults, It's down to our countries broadcasters who just don't view boxing as important anymore!! Disgraceful!! BBC & ITV should be showing some form of boxing it's as simple as that, Even if it was the big events they could purchase them for buttons from the states!! :witzend:

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 14:37
by dazzer
agree with bomber times change, i wish it was £10 to get in to the fights but it is not. It will be a few bob more.

Has it been confirmed it is on sky box office?

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 14:41
by Jeff Thomas
dazzer wrote:agree with bomber times change, i wish it was £10 to get in to the fights but it is not. It will be a few bob more.

Has it been confirmed it is on sky box office?
Think so its been banded about on a few of the threads.

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 14:45
by 15829
Jeff Thomas wrote:
diggler wrote:some people just like moan, if this was maloney or hatton people would be going mad saying it was the best thing ever
Whose moaning, i've said its a good bill? And it is a very good one. Is it worthy of PPV- not in my opinion but thats probably because I grew up watching Benn, Eubank, Naz, Tyson, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Chavez, Lennox Lewis etc for free. The idea of paying £15 pound on top of the £40 I already pay, to watch a few prospects and a few title fights that would be free with any other promoter is a piss take.

The point of the thread was to investigate if this was the start of a new attitude for domestic boxing from W arren and co. If it is brilliant, whats led to this change?

Your hyper sensative aren't you if this kind of thing has got you emotional. :lol:


Wouldnt say am emotional lol just think its worth the 15 poud cleverly v murat, brook v jennings,macklin v barker all alot better than what weve had to pay for in the past

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 14:59
by Jeff Thomas
diggler wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:
diggler wrote:some people just like moan, if this was maloney or hatton people would be going mad saying it was the best thing ever
Whose moaning, i've said its a good bill? And it is a very good one. Is it worthy of PPV- not in my opinion but thats probably because I grew up watching Benn, Eubank, Naz, Tyson, De La Hoya, Mayweather, Chavez, Lennox Lewis etc for free. The idea of paying £15 pound on top of the £40 I already pay, to watch a few prospects and a few title fights that would be free with any other promoter is a piss take.

The point of the thread was to investigate if this was the start of a new attitude for domestic boxing from W arren and co. If it is brilliant, whats led to this change?

Your hyper sensative aren't you if this kind of thing has got you emotional. :lol:


Wouldnt say am emotional lol just think its worth the 15 poud cleverly v murat, brook v jennings,macklin v barker all alot better than what weve had to pay for in the past
:lol: The only thing shitter that we have ever had to pay for is The KHAN shower of shite.

Thats not a slight on the fighters at all - some cracking lads on the bill, not sure how the whole thing works but somewhere in the whole scheme of things there is a bit of a piss take going on.

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 01 Jul 2010, 18:13
by taffytoon
Bomber 1 wrote:This bill will hold up I feel and when it does it'll be one of the best bills sky has ever produced.... :TU:

Macklin Vs Barker
Cleverly Vs Murat
Chisora Vs Sexton
Gavin Vs Woodhouse
Brook Vs Jennings
DeGale
Broadhurst
Saunders

This bill will be something special, I just hope sky get the hours to show every fight!! :TU:
I assume you will be at the show Ton?

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 01:18
by hurlock
Bomber 1 wrote:Times change guys and it's very sad I agree BUT this is not the promoters faults, It's down to our countries broadcasters who just don't view boxing as important anymore!! Disgraceful!! BBC & ITV should be showing some form of boxing it's as simple as that, Even if it was the big events they could purchase them for buttons from the states!! :witzend:

it's the promoters who have ripped the broadcasters of over the year's, flogging them plenty of dead horse's.boxing fan's drift & need to be entertained. we have the likes of sexton v chisora & macklin v barker :!: these are fights that attract fan's if they think i'll have a butchers at this, but by slapping on ppv is a joke :!: only people who know what they are watching will buy it,the ammount of people ive spoke to who have stopped watching boxing because they dont know who's who anymore.

jeff thomas, i make you right 100% boxing needs dana white to sort it out, me think's :TU:

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 02:40
by jizzle
hurlock wrote:
Bomber 1 wrote:Times change guys and it's very sad I agree BUT this is not the promoters faults, It's down to our countries broadcasters who just don't view boxing as important anymore!! Disgraceful!! BBC & ITV should be showing some form of boxing it's as simple as that, Even if it was the big events they could purchase them for buttons from the states!! :witzend:

it's the promoters who have ripped the broadcasters of over the year's, flogging them plenty of dead horse's.boxing fan's drift & need to be entertained. we have the likes of sexton v chisora & macklin v barker :!: these are fights that attract fan's if they think i'll have a butchers at this, but by slapping on ppv is a joke :!: only people who know what they are watching will buy it,the ammount of people ive spoke to who have stopped watching boxing because they dont know who's who anymore.
x2 It's the promoters fault

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 03:06
by dbflex
Its Magnificent 7 Jeff, reflecting the 7 title fights and 7 images of the fighters. the 7 shows up better in print. and the cover is not pro-Warren, it's pro-the story which is easily the best in British boxing this week and, as shown by this thread, has people talking. b4 the announcement Fury would have got the cover but would that make BN pro-Fury? we try to reflect what fans r talking about

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 03:27
by Jeff Thomas
dbflex wrote:Its Magnificent 7 Jeff, reflecting the 7 title fights and 7 images of the fighters. the 7 shows up better in print. and the cover is not pro-Warren, it's pro-the story which is easily the best in British boxing this week and, as shown by this thread, has people talking. b4 the announcement Fury would have got the cover but would that make BN pro-Fury? we try to reflect what fans r talking about
ha ha Clever cover Danny, truly wasted on slower folk like me. Does it have the 7 on there? Please tell me it doesn't.

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 03:33
by Alba
Bomber 1 wrote:Times change guys and it's very sad I agree BUT this is not the promoters faults, It's down to our countries broadcasters who just don't view boxing as important anymore!! Disgraceful!! BBC & ITV should be showing some form of boxing it's as simple as that, Even if it was the big events they could purchase them for buttons from the states!! :witzend:
were is the new tv deal you were hinting at mate ?

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 03:58
by oliverfennell
Bomber 1 wrote:This bill will hold up I feel and when it does it'll be one of the best bills sky has ever produced.... :TU:

Macklin Vs Barker
Cleverly Vs Murat
Chisora Vs Sexton
Gavin Vs Woodhouse
Brook Vs Jennings
DeGale
Broadhurst
Saunders

This bill will be something special, I just hope sky get the hours to show every fight!! :TU:
On the night it will be

Macklin Vs some dude from Kyrgyzstan
Cleverly Vs some dude from Pontefract
Gavin Vs Woodhouse (I think this one will keep)
DeGale Vs some dude from the Outer Hebrides
Broadhurst Saunders and Sanders in 6 x 3s

Chisora-Sexton scrapped
Brook v Jennings has always been doomed

Seriously, I'm as excited as anyone by this ANNOUNCEMENT, but they always look good when the tickets go on sale, don't they. Remember the Cleverly/Williams-Sexton/Jennings-Brook/Chisora-Skelton bill only a few months ago...

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 05:11
by winkveron
I've just read on Sky that Rhodes will be on the bill too.

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 05:13
by dbflex
Jeff Thomas wrote:
dbflex wrote:Its Magnificent 7 Jeff, reflecting the 7 title fights and 7 images of the fighters. the 7 shows up better in print. and the cover is not pro-Warren, it's pro-the story which is easily the best in British boxing this week and, as shown by this thread, has people talking. b4 the announcement Fury would have got the cover but would that make BN pro-Fury? we try to reflect what fans r talking about
ha ha Clever cover Danny, truly wasted on slower folk like me. Does it have the 7 on there? Please tell me it doesn't.
I'm afraid so... in yellow.

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 05:16
by Jeff Thomas
Chisora-Sexton in particular is a bit of a silly match to make at this stage.

There either going to disqualify Chisora from potential world class- or finish Sexton as a potential prospect. Daft move. The first fight was well timed, both have regrouped well- why meet now when on the cusp of big things.

Put Chisora in with Sprott and Sexton in with Skelton - change the guard! Bring them up together and match them when they are on the fringes of world class.

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 05:34
by winkveron
Jeff Thomas wrote:Chisora-Sexton in particular is a bit of a silly match to make at this stage.

There either going to disqualify Chisora from potential world class- or finish Sexton as a potential prospect. Daft move. The first fight was well timed, both have regrouped well- why meet now when on the cusp of big things.

Put Chisora in with Sprott and Sexton in with Skelton - change the guard! Bring them up together and match them when they are on the fringes of world class.
I agree Jeff, but on here we are always saying we want the prospects to clash, rather than avoid each other, such as Groves-DeGale. Do you see this one as different?

Re: FWP Promotions: Whats changed?

Posted: 02 Jul 2010, 06:21
by LeedsLad
King Geedorah wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:Bring them up together and match them when they are on the fringes of world class.
This is the exact thinking that has prevented a slew of big British fights taking place.

'Let's match them when they get to world class', what if they aren't world class, will never get to world class and lose to an import as they are building the 20+ fight run needed to build a domestic fight?

Get it on now before it goes tits up. That is the lesson learned from the light-middleweight debacle, when we waited for the guys to hit top-level on to watch as they all lost in fights they were mostly expected to win.
Agree 100% with this.