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BBC & Sky are both reporting that Mayweather has missed a deadline set by Team Pacquiao for a November fight. Reports suggest Pacman is looking at a Cotto rematch or Margarito instead.

What does everyone think of those two fights? Would the Cotto rematch be at 154 for the chance of another title for Pacman? I'm sure everyone would love to see him pound Margarito into the ground!

King Geedorah wrote:They should fight one another or turn it in. Pac-Cotto II is a joke, as is the Margo fight, and Floyd isn't going to be unduly tested by the likes of Berto. Their failure to agree terms is a major embarrassment for the sport and a sign of rampant egoism on both sides as well as an indication that there are too many voices whispering in the ears of both fighters, who have both massive entourages.

Couldn't have put it better. both need to know that I WANT TO SEE THIS FIGHT!

Pair of deadbeats!

Outside of Martinez or Williams there really isnt anything left to get excited about. An alphabet belt at 154, against Cotto, is nothing more than tokenism. Cotto got beaten brutally by Pacquiao in a fight that left no legitimate reason for a rematch. As for Margarito he would be comming off a long lay off and thunderous beating at the hands of Mosley. I don't think he would be all that competative with Pacquiao and I certainly don't want to see him get the payday. Pacquiao should go after Martinez and call it a day, win or lose.

How the hell can a fight that is going to generate both fighters at least $40 million, not happen? Pure Madness. I tell you what if it doesn't happen, then in a few years when Floyd is skint he'll regret this big time.

Really winds me up stuff like this. Mayweather will always be remembered for this if he dosent make the fight happen.

First ive heard of this.

I never knew they even planned having a fight?

Must of missed the tiny column it was mentioned in.

G0mez wrote:First ive heard of this.

I never knew they even planned having a fight?

Must of missed the tiny column it was mentioned in.

It was the top boxing story today on BBC boxing & Sky boxing website here in the UK.

G0mez wrote:First ive heard of this.

I never knew they even planned having a fight?

Must of missed the tiny column it was mentioned in.

Top Rank saying everything was agreed on, split/drugs etc, and the only thing now was for PBF to decide whether he wanted to fight again this year (Nov 13).

It seems he doesn't, and I wouldn't bet him dragging out the fight again when the proposals open up next year.

You can't give Floyd Mayweather a deadline!
The man is as stubborn and as arrogant as they come, regardless of that he is the main attraction in my opinion and will be the bigger draw. I love Pacquiao but I feel he needs PBF more. I'd LOVE to see the fight

My Prediction

THIS FIGHT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

Its destined for the Trinidad Norris, Benn Jones jnr, Bowe Lewis hall of shame. Mayweather has bottled it and knows its too much of a risk it seems

Its being reported that Mayweather gave a short interview at a basketball game over the weekend. He's being quoted as saying that that he is currently taking time out from boxing to spend time with his family/friends, that he fought just 60 days ago and is not even thinking about boxing right now. Unbelievable!!!

I'm beggining to think the last couple of months have been nothing more than a marketing tool, to what end i'm not exactly sure, but i'm doubting a Mayweather/Pacquiao fight was ever a real possability, that is if the aboves quotes from Mayweather are accurate. Apparently the fight was being negotiated by using Ross Greenburg of HBO as a mediator, so Arum would speak with Greenburg & Pacquiao, and Al Haymon would speak with Greenburg & Mayweather. This begs the question, did Haymon actually speak with Mayeather at any point during the last couple of months, what the fcuk exactly was this man doing?

anything except floyd-pac is useless

I would like to see Pacquiao/Cotto II at 154lbs. I think it's a wholly different fight to the one where Cotto had to make 145lbs. 9lbs would better Cotto ten-fold. But I do agree, in the grand-scheme of things it means jack.

Floyd is getting a raw deal here. Manny has feasted on Floyd's left-overs and the shell of Cotto yet it is Floyd getting slaughtered in the media.

At least Manny fought Cotto.

i am 1 of mayweathers biggest fans, but i hate to say this i think his a55 has gone.

manny people think pacman will beat mayweather and you know what he has a very good chance better than any other fighter imo has had till now. but i believe mayweather is too clever and too good of a counter puncher and will out box pacman,
i am also a big fan of pacman and love his style, altho i think mayweather wins this 1 it would not surpise me 1 little bit if pacman stopped mayweather but if i had to bet on it i would lean toward mayweather as i dont believe for 1 min he would get involved in any sort of war, and he would just pick his shots and steal rounds.

this being said i dont know what the hell mayweather is playing at, pacman has agreed to all mayweathers demands and cant do anymore.

mayweather is getting the bigger share, blood tests to his demands, theres nothing more he could possibly want,

if i was mayweather i would think to my self, this fight will be worth more money than iv ever made, it will silence the critics and it will cement my self in boxing history,

this will be one of the biggest fights ever and i know every single fan wants to see it,

time to sign the dotted line mayweather your starting to look like your a55 has gone

I think also, Mayweather does not want to go into training camp without his trainer, which no one would want to, and can't really speak about his uncles court case as he does not want to prejudice it.

The court case is in august, and that only leaves september and october to prepare and promote the november fight, so for him, next year makes more sense.

Pacman vs Cotto II = a who cares fixture

Pacman vs Margarito = the opponent should not even be allowed to box.I think plaster card on wraps is unforgivable.

Manny v JMM at 140 pounds in November once JMM has schooled Diaz?

Then Spring bout between the two men.

Doesn't matter when it is....Mayweather will beat him with ease. By a mile. JMM out boxed him, PBF will have him chasing shadows.

Made for PBF.

DavidPayne wrote:Manny v JMM at 140 pounds in November once JMM has schooled Diaz?

Then Spring bout between the two men.

Doesn't matter when it is....Mayweather will beat him with ease. By a mile. JMM out boxed him, PBF will have him chasing shadows.

Made for PBF.

My thoughts exactly - I can't see any other winner than Mayweather clearly.

However, if the fight doesn't come off then both men will suffer, especially Mayweather - he will always be asked about the fight that never happened. At least pac looks on the surface like he tried to make the fight happen and is now chasing another opponent after mayweather refused it.

My real fear is that Margo faces pac and beats him and we are in a position where the man to beat in the sport is a disgraced cheat.

doctorboxing wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Manny v JMM at 140 pounds in November once JMM has schooled Diaz?

Then Spring bout between the two men.

Doesn't matter when it is....Mayweather will beat him with ease. By a mile. JMM out boxed him, PBF will have him chasing shadows.

Made for PBF.

My thoughts exactly - I can't see any other winner than Mayweather clearly.

However, if the fight doesn't come off then both men will suffer, especially Mayweather - he will always be asked about the fight that never happened. At least pac looks on the surface like he tried to make the fight happen and is now chasing another opponent after mayweather refused it.

My real fear is that Margo faces pac and beats him and we are in a position where the man to beat in the sport is a disgraced cheat.

Mayweather will turn the tables though....if he continues to fight and Pacman retires.....the pressure is on Pacman to have one more fight when his heart may no longer be in it.

Of course, it leaves PBF without an opponent of merit too....though I'm suspicious of how they're building middleweight reputations for a few at the moment....thats a move which wouldn't surprise me....a guant Pavlik or a chubby Chavez at Middleweight to extend PBF supposed dominance.

Mayweather has his bluff called and turns a blind eye. Shock, horror.

Personally, I don't think he wants the fight, full stop, not now, not ever. Too much risk. It's not as though he can jump into a time machine and make the fight 10 years from now.

He's just going to wait until Pacquiao gets beaten or retires, much in the same way he did when the boxing world was crying for the Cotto match - cue Floyd's first retirement.

King Geedorah wrote:

ApolloCreed wrote:

Floyd is getting a raw deal here. Manny has feasted on Floyd's left-overs and the shell of Cotto yet it is Floyd getting slaughtered in the media.

At least Manny fought Cotto.

Yeah, after Cotto had the piss slapped out of him against Margo and had looked pretty pedestrian against Clottey. There was no way Cotto was going to beat Manny. He'd have even less of a chance against Floyd, not on the evidence of Cotto-Shane.

It is clear double-standards. Floyd beats a younger Oscar at the optimum weight but doesn't get the credit. Manny beats a boiled down and older Oscar by stoppage and he gets a tonne of plaudits.

Please don't tell me that Mayweather 'ducked' the pedestrian Puerto Rican.

Well said!



Some people will never get it.

PBF is 'hated' PAc is loved.

Clear double standards.


PBF still tumps down Pac, imo.

King Geedorah wrote:

charlieb wrote:Mayweather has his bluff called and turns a blind eye. Shock, horror.

Personally, I don't think he wants the fight, full stop, not now, not ever. Too much risk. It's not as though he can jump into a time machine and make the fight 10 years from now.

He's just going to wait until Pacquiao gets beaten or retires, much in the same way he did when the boxing world was crying for the Cotto match - cue Floyd's first retirement.

Why would FLoyd retire rather than take the easy money on offer for slapping the piss out of Cotto? 2007 was Cotto's finest year but Floyd had two decent fights himself, Oscar and the lineal 140lb boss, that year and has since beaten the rejuvenated Shane, who gave Cotto hell during 2007.

Cotto struggled manfully with Shane, a guy who landed a terrific shot against Mayweather only to be punished for the rest of the fight. Floyd landed a body shot late in the contest that nearly cut Shane in half.

Look at Floyd-Marquez. Manny struggled with Marquez. Sure, Floyd is bigger but he actually controlled the fight to the extent that he punished Marquez for having the cheek to strike him.

People may say that Floyd should have met the 140lb version of Cotto but that would have been a non-starter.

Shane blew a gasket after that big second round. PBF looked good, but I put a lot of down to Mosley blowing out his arse.

King Geedorah wrote:

charlieb wrote:Mayweather has his bluff called and turns a blind eye. Shock, horror.

Personally, I don't think he wants the fight, full stop, not now, not ever. Too much risk. It's not as though he can jump into a time machine and make the fight 10 years from now.

He's just going to wait until Pacquiao gets beaten or retires, much in the same way he did when the boxing world was crying for the Cotto match - cue Floyd's first retirement.

Why would FLoyd retire rather than take the easy money on offer for slapping the piss out of Cotto? 2007 was Cotto's finest year but Floyd had two decent fights himself, Oscar and the lineal 140lb boss, that year and has since beaten the rejuvenated Shane, who gave Cotto hell during 2007.

Cotto struggled manfully with Shane, a guy who landed a terrific shot against Mayweather only to be punished for the rest of the fight. Floyd landed a body shot late in the contest that nearly cut Shane in half.

Look at Floyd-Marquez. Manny struggled with Marquez. Sure, Floyd is bigger but he actually controlled the fight to the extent that he punished Marquez for having the cheek to strike him.

People may say that Floyd should have met the 140lb version of Cotto but that would have been a non-starter.

Prior to the Margarito bout, after beating 4 out of the 5 top welterweights in the world, Cotto wanted the Mayweather fight, everyone wanted that fight. Everyone except Mayweather, unfortunately. Instead he opted to unexpectedly retire.

I'd pick Mayweather to beat Cotto back then, I'd also pick him to beat Pacquiao now, but both fights have/had significant risk attached.

He managed to sabotage the Cotto fight when it became relevant and all signs point toward the same thing happening here. Pacquiao agreed to Floyd's demands, Floyd balked.

In a recent quote he stated "I'm not interested in rushing to do anything", given that the majority of fans are bored to tears with all of the back and forths' of this fight's negotiation and the hoops he's made Pacquiao jump through, 'rushing' isn't an applicable word.

If this fight doesn't happen, it's all on Mayweather.

Edit: Just thought of something, if Pacquiao opts for Margarito over a rematch with Cotto, and the unthinkable happens, he loses. That'll be lightning striking twice, both times courtesy of the man Floyd declined to fight for 8 million dollars. If that scenario were to play out, that's the 2 most important fights of Mayweather's career scuppered by his own hand.

charlieb wrote:Mayweather has his bluff called and turns a blind eye. Shock, horror.

Personally, I don't think he wants the fight, full stop, not now, not ever. Too much risk. It's not as though he can jump into a time machine and make the fight 10 years from now.

He's just going to wait until Pacquiao gets beaten or retires, much in the same way he did when the boxing world was crying for the Cotto match - cue Floyd's first retirement.

Well said, he wanted no part of Cotto then and wants no part of Pacquiao now. The pressure for the Cotto fight almost boiled over and Mayweather had nowhere to go, retirement was his escape route.

He also blatantly dodged Margarito, and will blatantly dodge Paul Williams if ever serious pressure builds for the fight to happen.

Some people just cant reason that Mayweather dodges oponents and defiantly provide him with every excuse in the book as to why these fights never materialised.

I have different recollection, the next fight in PBF's immediate future ahead ohis retirement was the DLH rematch.

Not Cotto.