BoxRec

*NOTE: This thread is made in the understanding that the Featherweight season is over*

Here are the six potentials for the Hall Of Fame with their notable achievements.

Salvador Sanchez:
Accolades: First man to become Double World Champion
First man to unify major world titles
Original WBC Champion

Unified Honours:
x1 time Double Champion (WBC, WBA in Week 8.)

Individual Tiles:
x1 time WBC Champion (Week 7)
x1 time WBA Champion (Week 8.)
*****

Rafael Marquez:
Accolades: Greatest Win ratio: 90% (18 wins out of 20 fights)
Original IBF Champion
Original Ring Champion
Last IBF Champion (and as such, keeps the title)

Unified Honours: None

Individual Titles:
x2 IBF Champion (Weeks 7, 19)
x1 time Ring Magazine Champion (Week 11)
*****

Kid Chocolate:
Accolades: Original WBU Champion

Unified Honours:
x1 time Double World Champion (Week 12)

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBC Champion (Week 12)
x1 time WBA Champion (Week 12)
x2 time WBU Champion (Weeks 6, 19)
*****

Alexis Arguello:
Accolades: First man to hold 3 different major world titles.
Longest World Title Reign (6 successful defences of WBC,WBA titles Weeks 13-19)
Original WBO Champion

Unified Honours:
x1 time Double Champion (Week 13)

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBC Champion (Week 13)
x1 time WBA Champion (Week 13)
x1 time WBO Champion (Week 7)
*****

Azumah Nelson:
Accolades: 75% win ratio - 15 wins out of 20 fights.
Fought in the first Ring Magazine fight.

Unified Honours: None

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBO Champion (Week 9)
x1 time IBF Champion (Week 16)
***

Willie Pep:
Accolades: Million Dollar Tournament Champion
The only man to hold 3 major world titles at the same time
Last Champion of the WBC, WBA, WBO (and as such, keeps the title)

Unified Honours:
x1 time Triple Champion (WBC, WBA, WBO in Week 19)

Individual Titles:
x1 time WBC Champion (Week 19)
x1 time WBA Champion (Week 19)
x1 time WBO Champion (Week 18)
x1 time Ring Magazine Champion (Week 19)
*****

These are the only guys who have done enough to be considered for a Hall Of Fame slot.

Honourable mentions go to:
Sandy Saddler - a difficult foe for everyone - and spent 90% of his time in the top 5.

Vicente Saldivar - he won the WBU title, won the Ring Magazine title and was Million Dollar Tournament Finalist.

Juan Manuel Lopez - the Original WBA Champion.

Manny Pacquaio - he and Kevo were strong all season... Yet he does get to keep his Regional title (ICBA) as he is the last champion.

Henry Armstrong - the original NABA Champion, but he just never really reached the height of his massive potential.
*****

NOTE: I don't want this to become a tribal thing, it is clear that when applicable, managers will vote their own boxer.

However, you are allowed 3 votes on this poll, but you must put your three votes in preferences, for example:

1. Boxer A and here is why
2. Boxer B and here is why
3. Boxer C and here is why.

If this is it, I would just like to thank all of you for the game it was fun.

This poll is bullshit, Marquez has beat every other man in it apart from Arguello, Who he lost to by Split decision.

ben k wrote:This poll is bullshit, Marquez beat every other man in it, And most By KO.

It's a good point that you are making Ben, but somewhat repetitive... And Marquez didn't beat Arguello, did he?
This point was made on the other thread.

However, the poll is not bullshit, because every manager in the BRS deserves a say in who gets into the Hall Of Fame.

The worst thing that could happen would be that a boxer gets robbed of a place in the HOF because of petty squabbles before.

Everyone should be given at least 3 votes, this should eliminate the "I am going to vote my boxer alone" ideology which you have gone along with- you only made 1 vote, that's up to you.

But in truth, I have listed the boxers achievements under them, lets let the majority decide.

What do you mean by 3 vote system, Why vote for second oplace, its not like 3 guys are getting into the hall of fame.

I'd say none of them.

Marquez is the only fighter that should/could get into the hall. Everyone else was a good fighter in a good season, but shouldn't go down as an all time great......

ben k wrote:What do you mean by 3 vote system, Why vote for second place

In the danger of repeating myself... To safeguard against Managers voting for their own fighters.

ben k wrote:its not like 3 guys are getting into the hall of fame.

Indeed... Perhaps NONE of them will enter it... Certainly 3 will not gain entrance. But whomever gets the most votes will be the best positioned to enter.

Crease another interesting statistic would be "What champion beat more of their peers"? In other words other champions. I'm thinking Marquez does well in that catagory as well.

However something is very fishy with Marquez as it was with TJF....they are simply statistical oddities which makes their case to the HOF even more compellling.

The other champions SHOULD be where they are at. Marquez's performance has no explanation....other than software visited by viruses. It is my belief that the commish never used a condom when penetrating the internet. That would answer both the issue of TJF and RM.

However both TJF and RM's "road to glory" was pretty amazing run of luck in light of there stated skill levels.

However

Maxie Rosenbloom is their equal in the "out performing their given stats" department. EVen in Maxie's losses he would often have the better punch ratio and accuracy ration.

I think we should wait to see if this season is being continued before deciding any HOF candidates - 20 weeks is really only half a season. If Buzz takes over and is able to continue this season, I'd have no problem with him keeping Azumah going so Pep could hand him his overdue boxing lesson.

armageto wrote:Marquez is the only fighter that should/could get into the hall. Everyone else was a good fighter in a good season, but shouldn't go down as an all time great......

+2

im convinced that i could have had a similar record if i took as many easier fights as marquez did. check my stats and check his. you'll see i took the much harder fights.

I had Arguello down just behind Marquez.

What is his resume Savo?

There are too many fights out there that haven't happened yet.

20 fights so far, with almost 50 fighters out there. The season was begining to, but hasn't yet sorted itself out. It would be a shame for us to not see this through atleast another 10 weeks.

Kilbane still wants Marquez

The Commish's list would define the HOF. #1 RM #2 AN Because it is an amalgam of all the difficulty factors.


It would likely have to be between those two fighters.

Lineal champ (if this is the end) is Willie Pep. So he is a possible candidate as well. He is the man who beat the man, when those two aformentioned men stepped into the ring to begin the lineal proceedings.

The rest are highly extinguished "also rans".

How about fornicate this Hall of Fame thread off, Its obvious Crease is a Knobhead.

If anyone here cannot see who was the standout guy this season then they are dillusional. Arguello is the only other guy that should be on the list also. but considering he got beaten 4 times and drew 3 times against guys Raf KOd then i cant even see the comparison.

Crease Take Raf off the List. There's no point voting on something like this.

Crease wrote:*NOTE: This thread is made in the understanding that the Featherweight season is over*

Here are the six potentials for the Hall Of Fame with their notable achievements.

Salvador Sanchez:
x1 time WBC Champion (Original WBC Champ)
x1 time WBA Champion
First to become "Double World Champion" (first man to unify titles)

Rafael Marquez:
x2 time IBF Champion (Original IBF Champ)
x1 time Ring Magazine Champion (Original Ring Champ)
Greatest win ratio: 90% 18 wins out of 20 fights
Keeps IBF title as he is the last Champ.

Kid Chocolate:
x1 time WBC Champion
x1 time WBA Champion
x2 time WBU Champion (Original WBU Champ)
A "Double World Champion"- (Held both WBC + WBA)

Alexis Arguello:
x1 time WBO Champion (Original WBO Champ)
x1 time WBC Champion
x1 time WBA Champion
A "Double World Champion"- (Held both WBC + WBA)
First man to have held three different World titles.
Longest World Title Reign - 6 Defences of the WBC + WBA titles.

Azumah Nelson:
x1 time WBO Champion
x1 time IBF Champion
75% win ratio - 15 wins out of 20 fights.

Willie Pep:
x1 time WBO Champion
x1 time WBC Champion
x1 time WBA Champion
x1 time Ring Magazine Champion
The only "Triple World Champion" (Held WBC, WBA, WBO together)
Million Dollar Tournament Champion
Keeps WBC, WBA, WBO and Ring titles because he is the last Champion.

These are the only guys who have done enough to be considered for a Hall Of Fame slot.

Honourable mentions go to:
Sandy Saddler - a difficult foe for everyone - and spent 90% of his time in the top 5.

Vicente Saldivar - he won the WBU title, won the Ring Magazine title and was Million Dollar Tournament Finalist.

Juan Manuel Lopez - the Original WBA Champion.

Manny Pacquaio - he and Kevo were strong all season... Yet he does get to keep his Regional title (ICBA) as he is the last champion.

Henry Armstrong - the original NABA Champion, but he just never really reached the height of his massive potential.
*****

NOTE: I don't want this to become a tribal thing, it is clear that when applicable, managers will vote their own boxer.

However, you are allowed 3 votes on this poll, but you must put your three votes in preferences, for example:

1. Boxer A and here is why
2. Boxer B and here is why
3. Boxer C and here is why.

If this is it, I would just like to thank all of you for the game it was fun.

SAV wrote:im convinced that i could have had a similar record if i took as many easier fights as marquez did. check my stats and check his. you'll see i took the much harder fights.

+2
I accounted for Raf's 5 cpu wins.

Crease wrote:

SAV wrote:im convinced that i could have had a similar record if i took as many easier fights as marquez did. check my stats and check his. you'll see i took the much harder fights.

+2
I accounted for Raf's 5 cpu wins.

Crease Sucking on Sav's balls is a very NOOBISH move.

ben k wrote:Crease Sucking on Sav's balls is a very NOOBISH move.

ben k choosing to ignore the facts make him the New Adam.

(Unless of course, the fact reinforces his belief that Raf was the greatest of this season).

Is this a joke?

How could you not include the man who dominated both Kid Chocolate and Alexis Arguello.

No this is not a joke... And them you speak of never performed at the highest stage (either of the 4 world titles).

The End wrote:Is this a joke?

How could you not include the man who dominated both Kid Chocolate and Alexis Arguello.

Who?

armageto wrote:Who?

I believe he means Jem Driscoll... one of his own fighters. (Surprise, surprise)

On Week 4: Driscoll beat Chocolate.
On week 10: Discoll beat Arguelllo.

However despite living under the delusion that Driscoll "dominated" Arguello, The End has failed to mention that Arguello won the two rematches in immediate consecutive weeks.
Week 11: Arguello beat Driscoll
Week 12: Arguello beat Driscoll


And the last thing I would add is, Barrera my fighter beat Sanchez, Chocolate and Armstrong this season but falls in the same category with Driscoll.

The both haven't won any titles - but gave a few good wins.

Now back on topic.

Marquez is ahead, but not by much.... Pep, Arguello and Nelson are only one vote behind them.