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Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 04:36
by Counter-puncher
Someone, I think Saad, mentioned I think in connection with Ray Leonard, how his punching was unusually ambidextrous in that you couldn't tell which was his 'weak' hand.
I was thinking about this last night watching some Arguello- as versatile (and under-rated) a weapon Arguello's left hand was, it was still I think pretty clearly that bit weaker ('less strong' is probably more to the point in Arguello's context) than his right side.
How many fighters do strike you as having equal strength and dexterity in both fists?
I think Toney may be worth a shout, here. Louis? not sure his left quite matched his right. I don't think Duran's left matched his right. Hmm, some may not like him but Hamed's power seemed pretty balanced between each hand....
who else comes to mind?
edit: Ray Robinson definitely one
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 06:51
by Robinson
I can think of as men that could close the eyes of
other men with either hand as being...
Earnie Shavers
Mike Tyson
Joe Louis
George Foreman
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 07:46
by palooka
Wilfredo Gomez, Edwin Rosario, Julian Jackson and Mike Tyson? Maybe?
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 08:00
by Counter-puncher
hmm yes some pretty good calls simon. EG when Rosario hurt his right hand he was able to partially compensate by leading with jab-like right hands, and turning all his weight over on the left hooks he threw off them which were clearly very powerful.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 10:17
by palooka
Counter-puncher; Edwin could knock them silly with either hand. I'd not like to pick which hand was better to be honest; he ruined Livingstone Bramble with hooks and uppercuts. Rosario could box and punch; same as Gomez. I'd pick another that could punch both hands; Tony Zale. he knocked them out with the left and the right.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 10:40
by Grimm
Monte "Two Gunz" Barrett of course.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 11:52
by Goodnight, Irene
Joe Louis is the best instance. His jab was arguably the best punch in an arsenal bursting with great punches.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 24 Jul 2010, 13:06
by SaadOffTheDeck
Archie Moore
Donald Curry
Simon Brown
Jack Dempsey
Hearns hook to the body was lethal. Underrated because of the right hand that ended things. But his body hook was among the greatest of all time.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 25 Jul 2010, 04:19
by Jpreisser
Grimm wrote:Monte "Two Gunz" Barrett of course.

Oh yer goood! Anyone remember Julian Letterlough? I would say Darnell Wilson and Ricardo Mayorga as well.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 25 Jul 2010, 05:36
by iamasadlittleboy
Liston?
Hagler didn't do too badly either....
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 26 Jul 2010, 09:20
by Jaywheel
Pac. Even throws both at the same time... :P
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 26 Jul 2010, 14:05
by alexpaterson
Fighting Harada hit very hard with both hands
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 26 Jul 2010, 14:11
by orbtastic
Bob Foster - Great jab and left hook to go with his numbing right hand.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 04:37
by Ezzard
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Joe Louis is the best instance. His jab was arguably the best punch in an arsenal bursting with great punches.
Very underrated left hook too...
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 06:39
by Bricks
Iran Barkley had a terrific left hook and also a very good right hand.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 27 Jul 2010, 11:57
by Counter-puncher
good call on Foster mate can't believe he wasn't one of the first names to come to mind.
Mosley, though not a huge power-puncher (above 135), was pretty even-handed.
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 28 Jul 2010, 09:51
by alexpaterson
Duran could KO you with the left or the right as well
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 30 Jul 2010, 09:43
by Counter-puncher
Gerald McLellan
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 30 Jul 2010, 10:28
by orbtastic
I thought about him but while there's no doubting the kid could hit, he had a huge physical advantage in most of his high profile fights and only about 12 of his fights appear to exist so it's hard to judge. The one where the other guy turns into a statue and falls stiff as a board under the ropes is pretty harsh.
I mean, Dennis Milton outpointed him, yet Jackson blew him away in about 50 seconds? Then he loses his next 2 by KO and retires.
Ralph Ward outpoints him, then only a year later he gets bombed out 4 times in a row?
Mugabi was shot to bits, that much was clear.
Bell & Baptist were last minute replacements and horribly inept.
The Jackson fight was level going into the 5th and it's fair to say Julian was more than showing signs of wear at this point, just about blind in one eye. He even gets his arm caught in the ropes trying to counter the G-man. 2nd fight more or less the first punch endeded the fight and he said himself BEFORE the fight that he overtrained and had to stop training as his weight was down to 154...McClellan weighs in on fight night at something around 186?
Re: Punchers with two-fisted power
Posted: 30 Jul 2010, 12:49
by Nile4000
Greg Page
Michael Spinks
Wilfredo Gomez.