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When it was first announced the English Title was happening, I was very amphrensive at first. I thought it would be just another title to dilute the British Title further.

However I have changes my opinion. Firstly It gives younger fighters great experience of not only going ten rounds but also fighting for a title and the added pressure that goes with it.

Secondly I believe it gives younger fighters good experience against better opposition as long as they are not put in for a title too early. Matt Macklin I recogn will learn more from his defeat to Facey than any number of blow outs of journeymen and forgeiners. Losing in not neccessarily a bad thing as long as you learn from it. It also put Macklin in a postion of being able to deal with a defeat and not having to deal with it at a more important stage. He can now go and work in the gym correcting his mistakes whereas say he waited for his 25th fight before losing to someone who tested him, he might never be able to correct his mistakes. I believe too much emphasis is put nowdays on an unbeaten record. As long as you learn from a defeat it is not neccessairly s bad thing.

Finally we are getting to see fairly good fights between British boxers. You have to ask yourself would we see Page vs Froch two undefeated boxers fight before the introduction of the English title.

I am also pleased it is not just a sports network thing. No offense to them but I believe it gives it more legitimacy if any english boxer can fight for one and it is not just confind to one promoter.

Why, is that what Carl Froch's fight is for?

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Bang on Cat, especially about Macklin and his undefeated record.

Imagine Hatton wasn't undefeated now, was something like 33-2. Much less pressure on him and on Warren in terms of matching him.

I must admit, I thought the English title was going to be a sports network only sort of thing, only being introduced to aid the fight skool series.

It's good to see Hearn, and now Hennesey getting in on the act. It puts the value of the belt up a little bit in my opinion.

Yes, the English title is working. It gives good pros a chance to leapfrog the 'opponent' circuit and secure an even bigger title crack, as we've seen with Andrew Facey, and also acts as a learning curve for the prospects, such as Macklin, Carl Froch and Danny Hunt.
At the end of the day, there's always been a Scottish and a Welsh title, so it's amazing it took so long for the idea to come out.

I'm not so sure that it is working (changing my view) it seems now that every half decent fight is for the English title, I have just read that David Haye's next fight now for the English title.

I was against it at first, as I saw it as a simple excuse for promotors to label their bill "championship boxing". I was happy with the recent Skelton vs Holden and Facey vs Macklin bill - because both were about the level I excepted the title to be contestest at (above Area, below British). However, I think Haye's new contest is just an excuse for it to be labelled a championship. Really, Dowling is not of Area standard so it shouldn't be for the vacant English title.

Froch vs Page is somewhat more acceptable, although I'm not sure have either done enough to warrant a championship contest in their fledgling career.

It seems like when someone pulls out promotors are thinking "oh well, call it an English title fight".

I hope this stops.

stujones wrote:I'm not so sure that it is working (changing my view) it seems now that every half decent fight is for the English title, I have just read that David Haye's next fight now for the English title.

I was against it at first, as I saw it as a simple excuse for promotors to label their bill "championship boxing". I was happy with the recent Skelton vs Holden and Facey vs Macklin bill - because both were about the level I excepted the title to be contestest at (above Area, below British). However, I think Haye's new contest is just an excuse for it to be labelled a championship. Really, Dowling is not of Area standard so it shouldn't be for the vacant English title.

Froch vs Page is somewhat more acceptable, although I'm not sure have either done enough to warrant a championship contest in their fledgling career.

It seems like when someone pulls out promotors are thinking "oh well, call it an English title fight".

I hope this stops.

I think this may just be a result of the belts being innaugral/vacant.
It's a bit of a free for all at the moment.
Hopefully it will settle down into a bridge between Area and British.
I already have a personal feeling that it's more important that titles like WBU.
We'll have to see how dear the fighters hold the belts to see if its working.