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Anyone else read it?

thought the promoters and boxers came across poorly, fail to understand that they are open to crisisim and oblivious to why anyone would do so.

robpalmer135 wrote:Anyone else read it?

thought the promoters and boxers came across poorly, fail to understand that they are open to crisisim and oblivious to why anyone would do so.

I heard Darren Barker was pissed off about some idiot starting unfounded rumours on boxing forums

^^^^^ shot, son

It was a very average piece at best.

Nothing about the positive contribution these forums make just a bit of whining from certain boxing people.

Maloney and Smigga came across well I thought and at least were balanced.

However, the general tone of the article was poor in my opinion

Agree with you there Wrists... it was a bit of a nothing piece really and I think Maloney came off best of all the people mentioned.

MatthewS wrote:Agree with you there Wrists... it was a bit of a nothing piece really and I think Maloney came off best of all the people mentioned.

Frank Maloney is shrewd and moves with the times. He knows that the newspapers don't really cover boxing anymore.

bennie wrote:

MatthewS wrote:Agree with you there Wrists... it was a bit of a nothing piece really and I think Maloney came off best of all the people mentioned.

Frank Maloney is shrewd and moves with the times. He knows that the newspapers don't really cover boxing anymore.

Oh Im not saying he hasnt moved with the times... some people seem not to be able to present a 'public' face. Frank isnt one of those people.

Time and time again people within boxing and the journalists criticise these forums - it has happened now for 10 years.

10 years there are personalities would love these forums to be sunk without trace indeed certain personalities to this present day threaten the forums and its posters with legal action - I dont give a toss as they cant get f*ck all out of me as I am in debt up to my eyeballs.

I will continue to make comment as I see fit and if personalities within boxing or even on these forums dont like it - they can kiss my fat, overweight hairy unpleasant ar*e!!!

IMO forums such as this are essential to the health of the sport. For a long time Boxrec and Boxing Monthly's own forum were the only place where I could have a reasonable discussion about boxing. You will always get muppets but it's the age old argument - if people don't like it then don't read them.

I can understand that people don't like to read criticism of themselves and I think in this regard Paul Smith comes across well in the way that he deals with it (Larry and Jamie spring to mind here too). Personally I will give an honest opinion of figthers and their performances but would never be intentionally disrespectful to anybody - I have huge respect for boxers and would like to think that my posts reflect that.

What does get me is the thin skin that some boxers and promoters demonstrate. Without naming names (for legal reasons ) it irks me that some people like to dish it out and run their mouths at others' expense but don't like the criticism and 'haters' when they get a taste of their own (I'm speaking generally here, not on this forum).

Boxing promoters need to embrace forums. I see Stacy Goodson posting on the general part all the time, although he seems to rub people up the wrong way (repeatedly) he has the right sort of idea. Forums are powerful, if Warren and co realised they could do a whole load better.

i can see why some boxers and promoters get the hump, as its easy for people to hide behind a keyboard and be personal in their attacks.

I made a mistake on here, with linking an article for a boxer who had been in a bit of bother, but got a message from a family member asking for me to remove it, which i did.
No pressure was put on me, but once the situation was explained i accepted it was wrong place for me to post it.

But on the whole i feel these forums are a good place, and one of the only forums that you have many 'experts' or anoraks that know there stuff.

If Frank Warrens forum was as powerful as this place would he complain about forums?

Othello wrote:If Frank Warrens forum was as powerful as this place would he complain about forums?

Nope!!!

And to use another posters phrase he once PM'd me and its so true - "you dont kick a dead dog"

Spud wrote:they can kiss my fat, overweight hairy unpleasant ar*e!!!

Settle down, Spud. Don't give Rhino any more ideas...

Darling wrote:

Spud wrote:they can kiss my fat, overweight hairy unpleasant ar*e!!!

Settle down, Spud. Don't give Rhino any more ideas...

i think you are getting me muddled up with paul king !!

rhino222 wrote:

Darling wrote:

Spud wrote:they can kiss my fat, overweight hairy unpleasant ar*e!!!

Settle down, Spud. Don't give Rhino any more ideas...

i think you are getting me muddled up with paul king !!

Is that the big beast that thumped poor old Spud?

I like the idea of boxing forums as it gives the boxers and fans a chance to interact on a regular basis. There are alot of muppets on certain forums that will remain nameless but boxrec is definitely one of the better ones.

There is good and bad about boxing forums as far as promoters/boxers/trainers etc are concerned.

BUT the good far outweighs the bad. The profile of the fighters and the sport is boosted massively by the chatter on the net in forums such as Boxrec and others. The promoters would do very well to remember that. For any to moan about the forums is completely ungrateful. Basically boxing promoters sh*tting on boxing fans and their opinions. When at the end of the day its the fans who pay the wages.

doctorboxing wrote:

robpalmer135 wrote:Anyone else read it?

thought the promoters and boxers came across poorly, fail to understand that they are open to crisisim and oblivious to why anyone would do so.

I heard Darren Barker was pissed off about some idiot starting unfounded rumours on boxing forums

what happend here ,spill the beans ?

Alba wrote:I heard Darren Barker was pissed off about some idiot starting unfounded rumours on boxing forums

what happend here ,spill the beans ? [/quote]

I got a text from a friend that knows Barker very well. Said the fight was off, Barker has pulled out and he was drinking and smoking with him that day. My mates not the kind of guy to just make stuff up.

I posted it on Eastside.

5 mins later Darren Barker read it and text Danny Flexen from Boxing News to tell him it wasnt true and he is pissed off about the rumours flying around.

My mate still maintains Barker was close to pulling out.

A so so article by Steve Lillis, though at least the place got a plug.

Warren is given space to bleat about the "outrageous" posts on here, not sure about that, they don't last long here if they are.

And I wonder if Lillis realises that some of the most outrageous posts on here come from Warren's own staff, allegedly of course.

MightyWarrior wrote:And I wonder if Lillis realises that some of the most outrageous posts on here come from Warren's own staff, allegedly of course.

He wouldnt dare mention it.

Spud wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:And I wonder if Lillis realises that some of the most outrageous posts on here come from Warren's own staff, allegedly of course.

He wouldnt dare mention it.

I guess it depends if it falls into the category of 'genuine criticism'.

"If it is genuine criticism, I will stand up and fight my corner. If it is justified I will hold my hands up."

I like Sheppard's Royal Mail analogy. Here is another one. The customer pays your wages and you should listen to the needs of the customer. That is what many of us do on these boards. The boxing fan is paying through their nose for live boxing with subscription fees for Sky, ESPN, Setanta Ireland and on top of that a wave of PPVs. They have a right to vent their frustrations at ridiculous match-making, paying for a PPV and only getting watch a handful of the fights etc etc....

If you think boxing promoters get it bad, try listening to the football phone ins and the 'genuine criticism' aired on those airwaves. Or how about the criticisms chanted on a weekly basis at football matches. Or, better still read what gets printed about England football managers. Some people take themselves WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.

MightyWarrior wrote:A so so article by Steve Lillis, though at least the place got a plug.

Warren is given space to bleat about the "outrageous" posts on here, not sure about that, they don't last long here if they are.

And I wonder if Lillis realises that some of the most outrageous posts on here come from Warren's own staff, allegedly of course.

yep, like when boxingchat mocked matthew hatton's status as fighting for "world titles." coming from that side, it was laughable.

Lillis and myself are perfectly aware that some posters believe some posters are someone or other, but without proof what can you write? Remember, a magazine is not the internet and rumours that cannot be stood up are treated differently in journalism. Without question, we can be sued for the sort of allegations that you are at liberty to make on here risk free, if John Shep's reading of the situation is correct. Anonymity is a luxury that you can enjoy whereas we put our names to things and so leave ourselves open to accountability. Our choice, your choice, but you can't judge us by the same rules you choose to operate under. It isn't realistic.