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15 rounds.

What happens?

I really don't think Moorer would want that fight. That's my take.

Tough fight, the distance certainly favors Quarry. Moorer's jab would be a big issue and Jerry would gush blood. I'd probably favor Michael over 12, but he would be hanging on at the end there. Over 15 quarry edges the decision or stops him late.

Moorer has too many lapses & lulls in him. He's otherwise competitive, & wins his share of rounds, but Quarry would've been just as effective, & seals the result with a busier, more consistent offense. The fifteen rounds doesn't help Moorer's cause, either.

9-6 or 8-6-1 to Quarry.

BoxBuzz wrote:I really don't think Moorer would want that fight. That's my take.

Agree.

I don't see Moorer going the distance with Irish Jerry.

A shot Patterson did --- a prime Moorer certainly could.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:A shot Patterson did --- a prime Moorer certainly could.

Just saw Tua and Moorer for the first time.

What was that Little Walter song? "Boom, turn out the lights" or something like that.

I honestly think Jerry at his best may be a solid candidate for best HW who did not claim a title. And I just don't think on each of their best nights this "contender" could be beaten by this "champion".

And I have to say that on any given day, just like in the NFL anything can happen. A fight can change in a single solitary instant. But when you run these two careers down the overall spec sheet, I see a lot more opportunities for Jerry than for Michael. And part of that (perhaps a big part) is personal psyche.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:A shot Patterson did --- a prime Moorer certainly could.

btw, "shot" is a pretty strong term for describing the Patterson of '67-'68.

He still had something left at that point.

Ask Jimmy Ellis.

yancey wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:A shot Patterson did --- a prime Moorer certainly could.

Just saw Tua and Moorer for the first time.

What was that Little Walter song? "Boom, turn out the lights" or something like that.

How long would the 1975 Quarry last with that Tua? Keep in mind, this is an even-lesser version of the Quarry of 1972, who was put on queer street by the devastating power-shots of...Ali. LOL.

yancey wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:A shot Patterson did --- a prime Moorer certainly could.

btw, "shot" is a pretty strong term for describing the Patterson of '67-'68.

He still had something left at that point.

Ask Jimmy Ellis.

Maybe you're right --- I'll take back, "shot," but with the proviso he wasn't far from being just that. He was more than a little past-it.

Moorer was certainly shot against Tua. yancey is clinging to the notion that Quarry was in a different league than Moorer and it just isn't the case. Moorer won the title from a guy that Quarry would have no chance against.

Moorer should get every bit as much a pass for Tua as Quarry does for Norton.

How can anyone judge Moorer at that stage of his career?

Only if they have an agenda, a weird one at that. I'm shocked that my first round pick in that thread has had such a profound influence on someone.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Only if they have an agenda, a weird one at that. I'm shocked that my first round pick in that thread has had such a profound influence on someone.

Don't flatter yourself, bud.

No agenda here and in truth I don't give a rat's ass about any of your opinions and round selections.

I'm simply saying that rd 1 of Frazier-Quarry I was a better, more intense round of boxing for all three minutes than two lesser fighters falling down all over the place.

You've said it ten times and now in two threads. That's a lot of activity for someone who doesn't care.

On the night Moorer beat Holyfield, Quarry would have certainly beaten Evander. Only more convincingly. The statement that Moorer accomplished something that Quarry could never have done is ludicrisp.

A Moorer Quarry fight has a possibility of ending up like a Shavers Quarry or Tua Moorer affair. It would not be off the radar screen. Quarry was almost always purely focused.

I couldn't imagine a scenario where Holyfield didn't rip Quarry apart. Jerry's style is made for Evander, even on an off night.

You think of him as one dimensional? He gave Frazier a good serious go, and I don't think Evander Delivers the goods that Frazier can. If that would have been Evander standing in front of Quarry the night he faced Frazier, I think Jerry has a better than even chance. I think he could do a good job of convincing Evander in the first round that he should be careful. And once that happens it's going to be a good night for Jerry.

I would confidently predict Quarry giving Holyfield absolute hell, and if he lost it'd be a razor thin decision. Quarry was a harder puncher, just as skilled, just as solid chin. Both had a tendency to neglect their boxing skills and slug. It would be a real war.

As for Moorer, he doesn't last past the 8th round here. Way too chinny to survive Jerry's counterpunching at his best. Moorer was a fun fighter to watch but I really don't rate him highly as a HW . . I scored his W vs Evander (a clearly not 100% Evander) a draw and other than that he beat a bunch of 2nd raters (Schultz, Botha, Cooper).

BoxBuzz wrote:You think of him as one dimensional? He gave Frazier a good serious go, and I don't think Evander Delivers the goods that Frazier can. If that would have been Evander standing in front of Quarry the night he faced Frazier, I think Jerry has a better than even chance. I think he could do a good job of convincing Evander in the first round that he should be careful. And once that happens it's going to be a good night for Jerry.

No, he was a very good fighter. I just don't see anything he does better than Holyfield and I don't like the style mesh for him. He was an aggressive fighter and would be open for Holyfield's counter hooks like a hooker's legs with a grand in her face. I've never seen a fighter convince Holyfield to be careful, so that would be a first. Jerry would certainly get his licks in and I've been wrong many times before.

Evander was more versatile than Frazier and had a lot more speed. I wasn't saying that Jerry couldn't compete, but I don't see him winning.

BoxBuzz wrote:You think of him as one dimensional? He gave Frazier a good serious go, and I don't think Evander Delivers the goods that Frazier can. If that would have been Evander standing in front of Quarry the night he faced Frazier, I think Jerry has a better than even chance. I think he could do a good job of convincing Evander in the first round that he should be careful. And once that happens it's going to be a good night for Jerry.

Holyfield was crazy. Tyson couldn't convince him to, "be careful." Neither could Bowe before Tyson, or Foreman before Bowe.

Quarry would give Holyfield no reason for pause. A forty-foot, fire-breathing gargoyle wouldn't give Holyfield pause.

Paraphrased from Lou Duva...

" He was like a robot. Whatever I told him to do, he would just say, 'Okay.' If I told him to walk through a brickwall, he would just nod his head & say, 'Okay.' "

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:You think of him as one dimensional? He gave Frazier a good serious go, and I don't think Evander Delivers the goods that Frazier can. If that would have been Evander standing in front of Quarry the night he faced Frazier, I think Jerry has a better than even chance. I think he could do a good job of convincing Evander in the first round that he should be careful. And once that happens it's going to be a good night for Jerry.

No, he was a very good fighter. I just don't see anything he does better than Holyfield and I don't like the style mesh for him. He was an aggressive fighter and would be open for Holyfield's counter hooks like a hooker's legs with a grand in her face. I've never seen a fighter convince Holyfield to be careful, so that would be a first. Jerry would certainly get his licks in and I've been wrong many times before.

Evander was more versatile than Frazier and had a lot more speed. I wasn't saying that Jerry couldn't compete, but I don't see him winning.

^^^Everything this guy says*.

*Except the part about being wrong many times. That only happened to me once. Ever.

Moorer's beard lets him down.

orbtastic wrote:Moorer's beard lets him down.

.....And Jerry's Beard was legendary.....here is all you need to know on the subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-vapUmv3U