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how good could golota have been if he wasnt bordering on mental retardation? i mean the guy in his prime was extremely skillfull i thought.. opinions?

I agree. One of the great "missed boats" of boxing. A golata with his head on straight would have been champion. A Golata without his head on straight managed to beat several champions, even if he didn't get credit for it.

yeah, i thought he pretty much was dominating bowe in both fights they had until the nut punches hahah... never knew what to expect from him, but when he had his head on straight he was very very tough

He was a bit of a waste considering how much talent he had because he was such a headcase and often slacked about in training like many HWs. He definitely had tremendous skill to go along with bone-crushing power but it seems as though his chin would've always been at least a slight liability as even as Bowe wobbled about he managed to stun Golota several times and after several wars his whiskers seemed to deteriorate into getting blasted out quickly by Lewis and Brewster before he could even really get warm, which was another tactical mistake he often made. That fight with Michael Grant was a fine one.

yeah, i have to wonder if it was actually a bad "chin" or just golota having a weak mental state to him? you know?

tennesseeboy wrote:yeah, i have to wonder if it was actually a bad "chin" or just golota having a weak mental state to him? you know?

I'd say a little of both. Couple that with the fact that he always seemed dry entering fights. He seemed like he would start off very nervous too and when you're nervous and dry on top of having a pretty suspect defense the possibility of being hurt or dropped is very high.

what do you mean by dry? like he didnt warm up coming out?

tennesseeboy wrote:what do you mean by dry? like he didnt warm up coming out?

You really never heard of a fighter being dry? Are you a relative newcomer to the sport?

well, i always watched boxing growing up, but really didnt start following it religiously till about 3 years ago, so yeah you could say that man lol

It means the fighter isn't properly warmed-up. No sweat = "Dry."

He had a good jab, good boxing fundamentals, without all the fouls, he would've definitely gone much further without question, and he'd have 2 wins over Bowe on his record.

gilgamesh wrote:He had a good jab, good boxing fundamentals, without all the fouls, he would've definitely gone much further without question, and he'd have 2 wins over Bowe on his record.

Maybe so, but he'd have still had to deal with this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0em16mPP ... re=related

looks like Golata was doing his Kirk Douglas imitation on the canvas there after the first knock down.

Yeah if he didnt suffer panic attacks, act nutty, or quit for no apparent reason.............if Golota had steel cojones 100% of the time this guy would have been the dominant heavyweight of the 2000's I beleive.

As it is he had a good career and made some money. Im very careful about criticising a fighter on something like heart. Its clear Golota had huge heart but something in him caused him to panic for no reason.

mugabi wrote:Yeah if he didnt suffer panic attacks, act nutty, or quit for no apparent reason.............if Golota had steel cojones 100% of the time this guy would have been the dominant heavyweight of the 2000's I beleive.

As it is he had a good career and made some money. Im very careful about criticising a fighter on something like heart. Its clear Golota had huge heart but something in him caused him to panic for no reason.

Getting hit by Tyson, Lewis, Brewster, and Grant may have something to do with it, after all, those guys could probably KO your average joe with a slap.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

tennesseeboy wrote:what do you mean by dry? like he didnt warm up coming out?

You really never heard of a fighter being dry? Are you a relative newcomer to the sport?

Apparently he had heard of it, as he referenced it in his question. Does it help you to be a total turd about everything? Why not just answer the kids legit question without being a ramrod, or just ignore it? I suppose you would be the one to ask about 'dry' as I am sure you have left your fair share of women in that predicament. ;)

jrc26 wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

tennesseeboy wrote:what do you mean by dry? like he didnt warm up coming out?

You really never heard of a fighter being dry? Are you a relative newcomer to the sport?

Apparently he had heard of it, as he referenced it in his question. Does it help you to be a total turd about everything? Why not just answer the kids legit question without being a ramrod, or just ignore it? I suppose you would be the one to ask about 'dry' as I am sure you have left your fair share of women in that predicament. ;)

I wasn't being insulting --- it was a genuine question.

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jrc26 wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

tennesseeboy wrote:what do you mean by dry? like he didnt warm up coming out?

You really never heard of a fighter being dry? Are you a relative newcomer to the sport?

Apparently he had heard of it, as he referenced it in his question. Does it help you to be a total turd about everything? Why not just answer the kids legit question without being a ramrod, or just ignore it? I suppose you would be the one to ask about 'dry' as I am sure you have left your fair share of women in that predicament. ;)

I've been involved with boxing for 22 years, fought as an amateur as well as Muay Thai and Kickboxing. I've run classes, trained and cornered fighters both am and pro and have never heard of the term 'dry' for a fighter going in cold.
I, too, was curious as to what the term meant and have now learned something new.

Here is another chapter of the boxing career of"Hard-Luck"Golata.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgKM89ekSZw

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

jrc26 wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote: You really never heard of a fighter being dry? Are you a relative newcomer to the sport?

Apparently he had heard of it, as he referenced it in his question. Does it help you to be a total turd about everything? Why not just answer the kids legit question without being a ramrod, or just ignore it? I suppose you would be the one to ask about 'dry' as I am sure you have left your fair share of women in that predicament. ;)

I wasn't being insulting --- it was a genuine question.

Since you're so inept at reading me, here's some practice. Guess whether I'm being insulting or not...



























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Third-grade wit is what you come up with when you have time to think & write down a rebuttal? You must be quick as molasses on your feet. What a royal wanker, coming to the defence of someone who didn't ask for your help, for an issue which doesn't exist

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Third-grade wit is what you come up with when you have time to think & write down a rebuttal? You must be quick as molasses on your feet. What a royal wanker, coming to the defence of someone who didn't ask for your help, for an issue which doesn't exist

I love you Irene.

Diamond WEAPON wrote:He was a bit of a waste considering how much talent he had because he was such a headcase and often slacked about in training like many HWs.

I never heard of Golota being lazy in the gym (I'm not talking about his last fights like Adamek). Contrary, he was always in amazing (physical) shape.

gregor wrote:

Diamond WEAPON wrote:He was a bit of a waste considering how much talent he had because he was such a headcase and often slacked about in training like many HWs.

I never heard of Golota being lazy in the gym (I'm not talking about his last fights like Adamek). Contrary, he was always in amazing (physical) shape.

Really? I can recall a few stories I'd heard about Golota at times just being in a bad mood and not showing up to a gym day. Just because you're in good shape and/or ripped doesn't necessarily mean you work as hard as possible, some people just look like that without a lot of effort too.

Diamond WEAPON wrote:

mugabi wrote:Yeah if he didnt suffer panic attacks, act nutty, or quit for no apparent reason.............if Golota had steel cojones 100% of the time this guy would have been the dominant heavyweight of the 2000's I beleive.

As it is he had a good career and made some money. Im very careful about criticising a fighter on something like heart. Its clear Golota had huge heart but something in him caused him to panic for no reason.

Getting hit by Tyson, Lewis, Brewster, and Grant may have something to do with it, after all, those guys could probably KO your average joe with a slap.

Oversimplistic.

The Grant fight he had had Michael on the floor twice and had taken all his shots for 9 rounds. He quit in the 10th without taking any real punches of substance and the final bell loomed. It was like he just shrugged and said enough.

The Lewis fight he had lost before the first bell even rang. He as frozen. My question to you is , was Lewis at that stage any more intimidating than Bowe, any better a HW or any harder hitting than Bowe?

Against Tyson , same thing, he had taken Tysons best, and even his best headbutt and came back gamely in the second round.........than he just flat out quit in the corner just as it seemed he was coming back into it. Danny williams and Kevin mcbride took far worse punishment from a similar Tyson and hung in there and won and Golota was a better HW than them and had been in bigger fights where he did well.

The Brewster fight was a legit blow out by a big puncher.Golota just got caught and he did try and come back hard but couldnt Brewster was for a short time in the mid 2000's a rare light of excitement and hope for american HW's.