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FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 08:22
by Josh1111
Would anybody be able to supply a full list of all fighters who sit under FW and a full list of who sits under Hatton? It would be intersting to compare the difference in quality between the 2. It would also be interesting to how many FW actually has
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 08:51
by Smokin Preedy
FW has all his fighters on his website. Not to sure about Hatton but sure its the same.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 08:59
by Smokin Preedy
Here is a list from FW website. not sure if its been updated since the weekend and the spelling is terrible.
Billy Morgan 0-0-0 England Heavyweight
Billy Joe Saunders 6-0-0 England Hatfield Middleweight
Craig Evans 1-0-0 Wales Super-Featherweight
Darren MCDermott 12-1-1 England Dudley Super Middleweight
Denis Lebedev 2-0-0 Russian Federation Moscow Cruiserweight
Derek Chisora 14-0-0 England Finchley Heavyweight
Don Broadhurst 11-1-0 England Birmingham Super Featherweight
Enzo Maccarinelli 32-5-0 Wales Swansea Cruiserweight
Frankie Gavin 8-0-0 England Birmingham Light Welterweight
Freddie luke Turner 1-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Gary OSullivan 0-0-0 Ireland Light Middleweight
George Michael Carmen 2-0-0 England Ipswhich Welterweight
James DeGale 8-0-0 England Harlesden, London Super Middleweight
Jamie Cox 12-0-0 England Swindon Welterweight
Joe Selkirk 5-0-0 England Liverpool Light Middleweight
John Simpson 17-6-0 Scotland Greenock Featherweight
John Thain 2-0-0 England Welterweight
Kell Brook 22-0-0 England Sheffield, England Welterweight
Kevin Mitchell 31-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweight
Liam Smith 5-0-1 England Liverpool Welterweight
Liam Walsh 8-0-0 England Norwich Super Featherweight
Martin Rogan 3-2-0 Northern Ireland Belfast Heavyweight
Matthew Hall 22-3-0 England Middleton Light Middleweight
Michael Walsh 7-0-0 England Norwich Bantamweight
Nathan Cleverly 19-0-0 Wales Blackwood Light Heavyweight
Nicky Cook 29-2-0 England Dagenham Super Featherweight
Paul Appleby 1-0-0 England 0
Paul Smith 28-1-0 England Liverpool Super Middleweight
Ricky Burns 25-1-0 Scotland Coatbridge, Scotland Super Featherweight
Ronnie Heffron 3-0-0 England Welterweight
Ryan Walsh 10-0-0 England Norwich Super Bantamweight
Sam Sexton 5-2-0 England Heavyweight
Stephen Ormond 1-0-0 Ireland Lightweight
Stephen Smith 11-0-0 England Liverpool Featherweight
Steve Omera 0-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Thomas Costello 5-0-1 England Birmingham Light Middleweight
Tobias Webb 2-0-1 Wales Super Middleweight
Tony Bellew 12-0-0 England Liverpool Light Heavyweight
Vinny Mitchell 12-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweigh
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 09:01
by Josh1111
Smokin Preedy wrote:FW has all his fighters on his website. Not to sure about Hatton but sure its the same.
Cool, cheers pal
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 09:06
by Josh1111
Smokin Preedy wrote:Here is a list from FW website. not sure if its been updated since the weekend and the spelling is terrible.
Billy Morgan 0-0-0 England Heavyweight
Billy Joe Saunders 6-0-0 England Hatfield Middleweight
Craig Evans 1-0-0 Wales Super-Featherweight
Darren MCDermott 12-1-1 England Dudley Super Middleweight
Denis Lebedev 2-0-0 Russian Federation Moscow Cruiserweight
Derek Chisora 14-0-0 England Finchley Heavyweight
Don Broadhurst 11-1-0 England Birmingham Super Featherweight
Enzo Maccarinelli 32-5-0 Wales Swansea Cruiserweight
Frankie Gavin 8-0-0 England Birmingham Light Welterweight
Freddie luke Turner 1-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Gary OSullivan 0-0-0 Ireland Light Middleweight
George Michael Carmen 2-0-0 England Ipswhich Welterweight
James DeGale 8-0-0 England Harlesden, London Super Middleweight
Jamie Cox 12-0-0 England Swindon Welterweight
Joe Selkirk 5-0-0 England Liverpool Light Middleweight
John Simpson 17-6-0 Scotland Greenock Featherweight
John Thain 2-0-0 England Welterweight
Kell Brook 22-0-0 England Sheffield, England Welterweight
Kevin Mitchell 31-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweight
Liam Smith 5-0-1 England Liverpool Welterweight
Liam Walsh 8-0-0 England Norwich Super Featherweight
Martin Rogan 3-2-0 Northern Ireland Belfast Heavyweight
Matthew Hall 22-3-0 England Middleton Light Middleweight
Michael Walsh 7-0-0 England Norwich Bantamweight
Nathan Cleverly 19-0-0 Wales Blackwood Light Heavyweight
Nicky Cook 29-2-0 England Dagenham Super Featherweight
Paul Appleby 1-0-0 England 0
Paul Smith 28-1-0 England Liverpool Super Middleweight
Ricky Burns 25-1-0 Scotland Coatbridge, Scotland Super Featherweight
Ronnie Heffron 3-0-0 England Welterweight
Ryan Walsh 10-0-0 England Norwich Super Bantamweight
Sam Sexton 5-2-0 England Heavyweight
Stephen Ormond 1-0-0 Ireland Lightweight
Stephen Smith 11-0-0 England Liverpool Featherweight
Steve Omera 0-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Thomas Costello 5-0-1 England Birmingham Light Middleweight
Tobias Webb 2-0-1 Wales Super Middleweight
Tony Bellew 12-0-0 England Liverpool Light Heavyweight
Vinny Mitchell 12-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweigh
FW fighters have 7 domestic titles and 1 world from 39 fighters. Now to try and get Hattons list
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 09:29
by Josh1111
Josh1111 wrote:Smokin Preedy wrote:Here is a list from FW website. not sure if its been updated since the weekend and the spelling is terrible.
Billy Morgan 0-0-0 England Heavyweight
Billy Joe Saunders 6-0-0 England Hatfield Middleweight
Craig Evans 1-0-0 Wales Super-Featherweight
Darren MCDermott 12-1-1 England Dudley Super Middleweight
Denis Lebedev 2-0-0 Russian Federation Moscow Cruiserweight
Derek Chisora 14-0-0 England Finchley Heavyweight
Don Broadhurst 11-1-0 England Birmingham Super Featherweight
Enzo Maccarinelli 32-5-0 Wales Swansea Cruiserweight
Frankie Gavin 8-0-0 England Birmingham Light Welterweight
Freddie luke Turner 1-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Gary OSullivan 0-0-0 Ireland Light Middleweight
George Michael Carmen 2-0-0 England Ipswhich Welterweight
James DeGale 8-0-0 England Harlesden, London Super Middleweight
Jamie Cox 12-0-0 England Swindon Welterweight
Joe Selkirk 5-0-0 England Liverpool Light Middleweight
John Simpson 17-6-0 Scotland Greenock Featherweight
John Thain 2-0-0 England Welterweight
Kell Brook 22-0-0 England Sheffield, England Welterweight
Kevin Mitchell 31-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweight
Liam Smith 5-0-1 England Liverpool Welterweight
Liam Walsh 8-0-0 England Norwich Super Featherweight
Martin Rogan 3-2-0 Northern Ireland Belfast Heavyweight
Matthew Hall 22-3-0 England Middleton Light Middleweight
Michael Walsh 7-0-0 England Norwich Bantamweight
Nathan Cleverly 19-0-0 Wales Blackwood Light Heavyweight
Nicky Cook 29-2-0 England Dagenham Super Featherweight
Paul Appleby 1-0-0 England 0
Paul Smith 28-1-0 England Liverpool Super Middleweight
Ricky Burns 25-1-0 Scotland Coatbridge, Scotland Super Featherweight
Ronnie Heffron 3-0-0 England Welterweight
Ryan Walsh 10-0-0 England Norwich Super Bantamweight
Sam Sexton 5-2-0 England Heavyweight
Stephen Ormond 1-0-0 Ireland Lightweight
Stephen Smith 11-0-0 England Liverpool Featherweight
Steve Omera 0-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Thomas Costello 5-0-1 England Birmingham Light Middleweight
Tobias Webb 2-0-1 Wales Super Middleweight
Tony Bellew 12-0-0 England Liverpool Light Heavyweight
Vinny Mitchell 12-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweigh
FW fighters have 7 domestic titles and 1 world from 39 fighters. Now to try and get Hattons list
Just 2 domestic titles, Vassell and Hatton but he only has 14 fighters so not a bad start to his promotional career
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 09:41
by 15829
warrens got some great prospects coming through and it looks like hes matching them alot tougher than usual, in a few years hes gonna have the likes of smith bellew degale gavin chisora all fighting for world titles, the dark horse of the stable is joe selkirk if his hands stay injury free i think he could go all the way
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 11:09
by Smokin Preedy
Matthew Stuart Askin
Michael Brodie
Anthony Crolla
Alex Dilmaghani
Matthew Hatton
Graeme Lewis Higginson
Kieran Maher
Martin Murray
Joseph Murray
Scott Quigg
Marcello Renda
Rhys Roberts
Mark Thompson
Denton Vassell.
This is from Hatton's website.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 11:10
by Smokin Preedy
Not a large Roster but its getting there! Denton Vassell needs to be more active.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 11:18
by orbtastic
Curtis is now with FW.
It also doesn't list Rhodes or Macklin, who have some tenuous promotional agreement with him?
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 11:21
by bigped
Smokin Preedy wrote:Matthew Stuart Askin
Michael Brodie
Anthony Crolla
Alex Dilmaghani
Matthew Hatton
Graeme Lewis Higginson
Kieran Maher
Martin Murray
Joseph Murray
Scott Quigg
Marcello Renda
Rhys Roberts
Mark Thompson
Denton Vassell.
This is from Hatton's website.
kenny anderson aswell
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 13:07
by stevek3lly
Smokin Preedy wrote:Matthew Stuart Askin
Michael Brodie
Anthony Crolla
Alex Dilmaghani
Matthew Hatton
Graeme Lewis Higginson
Kieran Maher
Martin Murray
Joseph Murray
Scott Quigg
Marcello Renda
Rhys Roberts
Mark Thompson
Denton Vassell.
This is from Hatton's website.
Not a bad list there. Some really good prospects. I agree with other comments that Vassell needs more activity, whats happened to him? Saying that, not much mentioned about what next for Matthew Hatton either.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:53
by stevek3lly
Anyway guys. What about Frank Maloney's fighters. He must have a half decent list of domestic champs, let alone Rendall Munroe as well fighting for worlds.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:08
by Autobarn
stevek3lly wrote:Smokin Preedy wrote:Matthew Stuart Askin
Michael Brodie
Anthony Crolla
Alex Dilmaghani
Matthew Hatton
Graeme Lewis Higginson
Kieran Maher
Martin Murray
Joseph Murray
Scott Quigg
Marcello Renda
Rhys Roberts
Mark Thompson
Denton Vassell.
This is from Hatton's website.
Not a bad list there. Some really good prospects. I agree with other comments that Vassell needs more activity, whats happened to him? Saying that, not much mentioned about what next for Matthew Hatton either.
saul alvarez has been mentioned.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 19:08
by tilt
any1 got a list of maloneys fighters?
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 00:39
by REAL_DEAL
* DAVID PRICE
* TOM DALLAS
* LARRY OLUBAMIWO
* JON-LEWIS DICKINSON
* TONY JEFFRIES
* TRAVIS DICKINSON
* SAM WEBB
* GARY SYKES
* MARTIN LINDSAY
* RENDALL MUNROE
* JASON BOOTH
* JAMIE MCDONNELL
* STUART HALL
* LEE HASKINS
* SHINNY BAYAAR
* ASHLEY SEXTON
copy from frankmaloney.com
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 04:29
by $wifty
Paul Edwards is with Frank Maloney too
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 04:55
by stujones
I thought Chris Edwards would either be with Hatton or FM?
Hasn't Michael Brodie packed it in?
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 05:17
by Captain Hook
Josh1111 wrote:Smokin Preedy wrote:Here is a list from FW website. not sure if its been updated since the weekend and the spelling is terrible.
Billy Morgan 0-0-0 England Heavyweight
Billy Joe Saunders 6-0-0 England Hatfield Middleweight
Craig Evans 1-0-0 Wales Super-Featherweight
Darren MCDermott 12-1-1 England Dudley Super Middleweight
Denis Lebedev 2-0-0 Russian Federation Moscow Cruiserweight
Derek Chisora 14-0-0 England Finchley Heavyweight
Don Broadhurst 11-1-0 England Birmingham Super Featherweight
Enzo Maccarinelli 32-5-0 Wales Swansea Cruiserweight
Frankie Gavin 8-0-0 England Birmingham Light Welterweight
Freddie luke Turner 1-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Gary OSullivan 0-0-0 Ireland Light Middleweight
George Michael Carmen 2-0-0 England Ipswhich Welterweight
James DeGale 8-0-0 England Harlesden, London Super Middleweight
Jamie Cox 12-0-0 England Swindon Welterweight
Joe Selkirk 5-0-0 England Liverpool Light Middleweight
John Simpson 17-6-0 Scotland Greenock Featherweight
John Thain 2-0-0 England Welterweight
Kell Brook 22-0-0 England Sheffield, England Welterweight
Kevin Mitchell 31-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweight
Liam Smith 5-0-1 England Liverpool Welterweight
Liam Walsh 8-0-0 England Norwich Super Featherweight
Martin Rogan 3-2-0 Northern Ireland Belfast Heavyweight
Matthew Hall 22-3-0 England Middleton Light Middleweight
Michael Walsh 7-0-0 England Norwich Bantamweight
Nathan Cleverly 19-0-0 Wales Blackwood Light Heavyweight
Nicky Cook 29-2-0 England Dagenham Super Featherweight
Paul Appleby 1-0-0 England 0
Paul Smith 28-1-0 England Liverpool Super Middleweight
Ricky Burns 25-1-0 Scotland Coatbridge, Scotland Super Featherweight
Ronnie Heffron 3-0-0 England Welterweight
Ryan Walsh 10-0-0 England Norwich Super Bantamweight
Sam Sexton 5-2-0 England Heavyweight
Stephen Ormond 1-0-0 Ireland Lightweight
Stephen Smith 11-0-0 England Liverpool Featherweight
Steve Omera 0-0-0 England Light Middleweight
Thomas Costello 5-0-1 England Birmingham Light Middleweight
Tobias Webb 2-0-1 Wales Super Middleweight
Tony Bellew 12-0-0 England Liverpool Light Heavyweight
Vinny Mitchell 12-1-0 England Dagenham Lightweigh
FW fighters have 7 domestic titles and 1 world from 39 fighters. Now to try and get Hattons list
Is there a list of how many world title holders have left the fold?
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 05:18
by Captain Hook
Smokin Preedy wrote:Matthew Stuart Askin
Michael Brodie
Anthony Crolla
Alex Dilmaghani
Matthew Hatton
Graeme Lewis Higginson
Kieran Maher
Martin Murray
Joseph Murray
Scott Quigg
Marcello Renda
Rhys Roberts
Mark Thompson
Denton Vassell.
This is from Hatton's website.
Tom Doran is with Hatton, or at least he was until this week. Was due to fight in Bury too, will have to see what's happened there.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 05:24
by Deserter
Why do people think the line-up of fighters is any real benchmark of Hatton Promotions' success? Ultimately it's a numbers game and from everything I've seen and heard, I find it hard to envisage the company lasting much more than a couple of years, let alone growing and prospering.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 05:28
by Captain Hook
If he can keep hold of Quigg, Murray and Roberts (and if Doran is still with him) and they continue as expected he'll have three/four of the top fighters in the UK in two years. The potential is there.
I agree it won't last too long if Matthew Hatton, Brodie and co are the benchmark...
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 05:40
by Deserter
Captain Hook wrote:If he can keep hold of Quigg, Murray and Roberts (and if Doran is still with him) and they continue as expected he'll have three/four of the top fighters in the UK in two years. The potential is there.
I agree it won't last too long if Matthew Hatton, Brodie and co are the benchmark...
But my whole point is that there's no business context to that thought process i.e. how much will he have to pay to retain them and then how's he going to leverage them to make money for his promotional company? For example, his chances of securing decent TV deals are surely further away than ever given recent events.
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 06:03
by Josh1111
Deserter wrote:Why do people think the line-up of fighters is any real benchmark of Hatton Promotions' success? Ultimately it's a numbers game and from everything I've seen and heard, I find it hard to envisage the company lasting much more than a couple of years, let alone growing and prospering.
Any reasons to think that? He has delivered big fights for his fighters so far, why cant that continue?
Re: FW fighers list & Hatton fighters list???
Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 07:15
by Deserter
Josh1111 wrote:Deserter wrote:Why do people think the line-up of fighters is any real benchmark of Hatton Promotions' success? Ultimately it's a numbers game and from everything I've seen and heard, I find it hard to envisage the company lasting much more than a couple of years, let alone growing and prospering.
Any reasons to think that? He has delivered big fights for his fighters so far, why cant that continue?
Because if you listen to anyone who knows anything about the business side of the sport they'll tell you that the money they've been throwing round to secure those fights is disproportionate to the return they've been getting and as with any business, if your costs outweigh your revenues you're not in a good place. He can cope in the short-term by funding it through the money he made while fighting and view it as an investment phase, but that's not a viable long-term situation.
If you search for some of Coco's comments you'll get an insight from an ex-pro who knows what sort of money's been spent by Hatton Promotions.