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Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:34
by leforge
On buncey show allegedly said that wlad wants chisora for dec 11 th fight.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:37
by whatashambles
sg1985 wrote:It's too soon. It's a big opportunity for him, but surely too soon. Why doesn't Wlad try to make a fight with Povetkin, he's in a better position than Chisora to take that fight.
Atlas has said Povetkin needs 3 fights before fighting Wlad. Not to mention that they've already pulled out of the fight numerous times.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:38
by tsmithy50
He'd be mad not to take it. It wouldn't be that much of a suprise if Chisora got stopped in his next fight by somebody like fury so why not take it he's got a punchers chance.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:39
by kevo
Seems all you need for a HW title shot these days is a win over a domestic class opponent.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:40
by n1ebf
No.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:42
by whatashambles
sg1985 wrote:
whatashambles wrote:
sg1985 wrote:It's too soon. It's a big opportunity for him, but surely too soon. Why doesn't Wlad try to make a fight with Povetkin, he's in a better position than Chisora to take that fight.
Atlas has said Povetkin needs 3 fights before fighting Wlad. Not to mention that they've already pulled out of the fight numerous times.
What about Adamek? Or does he have a fight?
Got a fight, but the plan is for a March fight against Wlad

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:42
by Rockys gum shield
I'd say take it Vlads chin has shown he can be dropped in the past and I think Chisora would test him.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:43
by hurlock
sg1985 wrote:It's too soon. It's a big opportunity for him, but surely too soon. Why doesn't Wlad try to make a fight with Povetkin, he's in a better position than Chisora to take that fight.
chisora should jump at it :!: title fight's used to be hard to get :!: danny williams had a great run & it took him ages to get a crack.
im sure haye would want chisora after if he loses to gauge himself on & we are talking alot of wonga for old del boy :!: this time next year :!: :DDD

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:44
by whatashambles
Rockys gum shield wrote:I'd say take it Vlads chin has shown he can be dropped in the past and I think Chisora would test him.
Not a chance, Wlad will pound him

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:48
by kevo
sg1985 wrote:
hurlock wrote:
sg1985 wrote:It's too soon. It's a big opportunity for him, but surely too soon. Why doesn't Wlad try to make a fight with Povetkin, he's in a better position than Chisora to take that fight.
chisora should jump at it :!: title fight's used to be hard to get :!: danny williams had a great run & it took him ages to get a crack.
im sure haye would want chisora after if he loses to gauge himself on & we are talking alot of wonga for old del boy :!: this time next year :!: :DDD
It's too soon though, there are a few good fights at British and Euro level for him, and lets be honest, they might have been hard to come by in the past, but when Wlad and Vitali retire in the next year or two the belts will be up for grabs, and if he stays unbeaten he'll be one of the first in line.
Exaclty. He's only 26, he's got plenty of time yet. Wlad would be far too much for him at this stage.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:50
by whatashambles
sg1985 wrote:
hurlock wrote:
sg1985 wrote:It's too soon. It's a big opportunity for him, but surely too soon. Why doesn't Wlad try to make a fight with Povetkin, he's in a better position than Chisora to take that fight.
chisora should jump at it :!: title fight's used to be hard to get :!: danny williams had a great run & it took him ages to get a crack.
im sure haye would want chisora after if he loses to gauge himself on & we are talking alot of wonga for old del boy :!: this time next year :!: :DDD
It's too soon though, there are a few good fights at British and Euro level for him, and lets be honest, they might have been hard to come by in the past, but when Wlad and Vitali retire in the next year or two the belts will be up for grabs, and if he stays unbeaten he'll be one of the first in line.
If he takes it and loses, he can go back to Brit level (fight Fury) then fight for the Euro if he wins and get in another fight before 2011 is out.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:50
by n1ebf
whatashambles wrote:
Rockys gum shield wrote:I'd say take it Vlads chin has shown he can be dropped in the past and I think Chisora would test him.
Not a chance, Wlad will pound him
exactly. Vlad would smack f*ck out of him for a bit, possibly hurt him, and for what?? 50 grand in the bank, 60? 70?.........I'm starting to talk myself into it a bit now :OhYes:

He could go down after 5 minutes (if he gets that far) but how many mens' prides would allow them to do that? Mine wouldn't.

Seriously.....Derek Chisora would stand zero chance in this fight, not even a punchers chance.

Vladimir's got a fcking Phd AND he's a World Champ.......men like that don't fck about.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:52
by hurlock
when the klits pack it in the heavies will be even worse :!: even less money :!:

better too soon then too late, if he cant cope his corner can go allright del boy we arent ready yet & pull him out, he dont have to get hurt :!:
the klits are like nearly 50 bouts & beat everyone so no shame & it will get him great exposure.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:54
by tsmithy50
Whats the alternative to get beat by somebody at british or european level? He's really nothing special so should take the oppotunity while its there.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:56
by stevek3lly
I'd take it if I were Chisora. He stands a half decent chance of success if he can catch Vlad on the chin.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:58
by n1ebf
tsmithy50 wrote:Whats the alternative to get beat by somebody at british or european level? He's really nothing special so should take the oppotunity while its there.
so train harder and get special! There's a dearth of Heavy talent on the World scale. Vlad Klitschko would smash Chisora up with ease.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 16:59
by tsmithy50
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
tsmithy50 wrote:Whats the alternative to get beat by somebody at british or european level? He's really nothing special so should take the oppotunity while its there.
so train harder and get special! There's a dearth of Heavy talent on the World scale. Vlad Klitschko would smash Chisora up with ease.
I think it doesn't matter how hard he trains he'll still only have a punchers chance there leagues apart.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:01
by Finn
sg1985 wrote:
kevo wrote:Seems all you need for a HW title shot these days is a win over a domestic class opponent.
Puts Haye-Harrison into perspective doesn't it.
Yup wonder how the klit lovers will try and spin this one?

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:20
by whatashambles
kingfinn wrote:
sg1985 wrote:
kevo wrote:Seems all you need for a HW title shot these days is a win over a domestic class opponent.
Puts Haye-Harrison into perspective doesn't it.
Yup wonder how the klit lovers will try and spin this one?
Who else is there for them to fight?
Adamek is busy, Povetkin won't fight them.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:26
by whatashambles
sg1985 wrote: Valuev is out isn't he? Some injury?
Yep injured and out until next year

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:35
by SAPFO
14 fights and a shot at the title! Has Chirsora bigger balls than Haye?

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:41
by black panther
NorthEastBoxingFan wrote:
whatashambles wrote:
Rockys gum shield wrote:I'd say take it Vlads chin has shown he can be dropped in the past and I think Chisora would test him.
Not a chance, Wlad will pound him
exactly. Vlad would smack f*ck out of him for a bit, possibly hurt him, and for what?? 50 grand in the bank, 60? 70?.........I'm starting to talk myself into it a bit now :OhYes:

He could go down after 5 minutes (if he gets that far) but how many mens' prides would allow them to do that? Mine wouldn't.

Seriously.....Derek Chisora would stand zero chance in this fight, not even a punchers chance.

Vladimir's got a fcking Phd AND he's a World Champ.......men like that don't fck about.
I would of thought way more than that mate. I mean didn't Albert Soznowki get 1.2 million for fighting Vitali?

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:48
by Kit
Definitely 100% bite there arm of to take it, how many times do you get offered the chance to fight the no.1 heavyweight in the world?
I dont fancy his chances now, and to be honest not ever.
Thats why he should take it with both hands, otherwise the chances he looses at a lower level without his moment in the sun and the money in the bank.
He can always go back to his current level with his profile significantly raised.

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:48
by lefty
Rockys gum shield wrote:I'd say take it Vlads chin has shown he can be dropped in the past and I think Chisora would test him.
I disagree,chisora is basically a slightly lesser version of sam peter who doesnt punch as hard.Klitschko will just mash his face up with the jab and the eventually finish him!

Re: Chisora offered Vladimir!

Posted: 23 Sep 2010, 17:51
by kevo
A crushing defeat this early in his career could have a very negative impact on Chisora.

He's got zero chance against Wlad, not even a punchers chance. He should just take his time and progress through the levels as normal and take his shot when he's ready. You never know, Klitschko may still be around when (if) he reaches the top level.

Anyway, he's in no way deserving of a title shot, people are getting a bit too excited over his win over Sexton.